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MEL

Jamestown, NY

#24 Apr 20, 2013
Westfield Rez wrote:
Does anyone know a consultant in the Westfield area?
Jon Coe in Brocton
ScottieR

Glen Burnie, MD

#27 Apr 29, 2013
Jennie, You helped me make up my mind. can hear your words play in my mind like a Tom Cruise Scientology justification interview on some third rate TV news mag.
someone asked "why are so many companies trying this it if it's a scam." I don't know about "so many", but, certainly, a certain type of company always seems to turn to this type of marketing, preying on those who are desperate for additional income that they'll pay to work for the company. It's seemingly a universal constant that those companies are selling the position more than the product, which always turns out to be questionable, at best (at least, after I researched ambit, the pricing, and have read the testimonials on both sides of the fence and tossed the ones that are obviously high in the kool-aid).
"Usually when my family and friends see how well Im doing, they ask on their own." How many times have you done this that your family asks you, when you've stopped by to show off your pink Cadillac (or do they have an ambit LED lightbulb, instead), if they can jump on the band wagon. Wow... How does that work - the family all pays a fee to Ambit so they can all mine the same group of customers. Interesting. But, "you know how to get what you need from the Internet," - that's encouraging... y I had my radar turned too high for scams, but I tend to ignore Multi-level solicitations face to face, let alone over the faceless Internet, where I can't look in the soulless eyes and see Im about to lose one way or the other.
wow...
(I only stumbled on this thread because a friend, unfortunately, got involved with ambit (actually early this morning at an unusual time and left a message like there was a major emergency situation that he need me to help with - only to call back and find out it was this trash.). They obviously are sending people out there with no backup/training because he couldn't answer a single question I asked... "So, Scottie,what do you know about energy deregulation??" Well, actually I know a lot...
I know that, out of desperation, he jumped on what he thought was a good idea because he needs a supplement to his income, but he hit on the same old Amway scheme where you get to be the pest of your friends and family for the foreseeable future, guilt your fixed-income parents and grandparents into buying your product, until they finally sign up for the service to get you to shut up "or, better yet, come work for me! and get it for free!(after - fine print - you pay the sign up fee, ruin the relationships you have with your own family and friends because you've exhausted everyone else so you can't stop calling them with "the greatest deal since slice bread (shhh. it's actually 22.8% higher per kw/h than my existing supplier), and sell your soul to the energy devil.)
but it's the residuals, man, the residuals... yeah... GTH.

“Working at Home and Loving IT!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#28 Apr 30, 2013
ScottieR,

I understand your viewpoint and the multi-level marketing industry is not for everyone. However, for those lucky few that understand how it works it becomes their answer to their prayers. I see you are from Maryland and I'm not sure how the "rate" works in that area because I live in Texas. However, I do know about Ambit and it has been a blessing for me.

When I switched to Ambit my bill dropped by 40%, now these rates will vary per person and per area. But my bill does not lie. As far as the "Free Energy" program that is offered through Ambit Energy, ANY of our customers have the option to do this as well. So, you do not have to pay to become a customer unless you live in Texas and you have a deposit because in the great state of Texas credit checks are ran for your electricity provider to determine if you have a deposit.

Obviously we are not Mary Kay so we do not have pink Cadillac's. However, at our yearly convention some consultants have had the opportunity to win some really great stuff.....

Personally, I am in this business to change the future of my children not to earn a car.
ScottieR wrote:
Jennie, You helped me make up my mind. can hear your words play in my mind like a Tom Cruise Scientology justification interview on some third rate TV news mag.
someone asked "why are so many companies trying this it if it's a scam." I don't know about "so many", but, certainly, a certain type of company always seems to turn to this type of marketing, preying on those who are desperate for additional income that they'll pay to work for the company. It's seemingly a universal constant that those companies are selling the position more than the product, which always turns out to be questionable, at best (at least, after I researched ambit, the pricing, and have read the testimonials on both sides of the fence and tossed the ones that are obviously high in the kool-aid).
"Usually when my family and friends see how well Im doing, they ask on their own." How many times have you done this that your family asks you, when you've stopped by to show off your pink Cadillac (or do they have an ambit LED lightbulb, instead), if they can jump on the band wagon. Wow... How does that work - the family all pays a fee to Ambit so they can all mine the same group of customers. Interesting. But, "you know how to get what you need from the Internet," - that's encouraging... y I had my radar turned too high for scams, but I tend to ignore Multi-level solicitations face to face, let alone over the faceless Internet, where I can't look in the soulless eyes and see Im about to lose one way or the other.
wow...
(I only stumbled on this thread because a friend, unfortunately, got involved with ambit (actually early this morning at an unusual time and left a message like there was a major emergency situation that he need me to help with - only to call back and find out it was this trash.). They obviously are sending people out there with no backup/training because he couldn't answer a single question I asked... "So, Scottie,what do you know about energy deregulation??" Well, actually I know a lot...
I know that, out of desperation, he jumped on what he thought was a good idea because he needs a supplement to his income, but he hit on the same old Amway scheme where you get to be the pest of your friends and family for the foreseeable future, guilt your fixed-income parents and grandparents into buying your product, until they finally sign up for the service to get you to shut up "or, better yet, come work for me! and get it for free!(after - fine print - you pay the sign up fee, ruin the relationships you have with your own family and friends because you've exhausted everyone else so you can't stop calling them with "the greatest deal since slice bread (shhh. it's actually 22.8% higher per kw/h than my existing supplier), and sell your soul to the energy devil.)
but it's the residuals, man, the residuals... yeah... GTH.
What

Orchard Park, NY

#29 May 3, 2013
ScottieR wrote:
Jennie, You helped me make up my mind. can hear your words play in my mind like a Tom Cruise Scientology justification interview on some third rate TV news mag.
someone asked "why are so many companies trying this it if it's a scam." I don't know about "so many", but, certainly, a certain type of company always seems to turn to this type of marketing, preying on those who are desperate for additional income that they'll pay to work for the company. It's seemingly a universal constant that those companies are selling the position more than the product, which always turns out to be questionable, at best (at least, after I researched ambit, the pricing, and have read the testimonials on both sides of the fence and tossed the ones that are obviously high in the kool-aid).
"Usually when my family and friends see how well Im doing, they ask on their own." How many times have you done this that your family asks you, when you've stopped by to show off your pink Cadillac (or do they have an ambit LED lightbulb, instead), if they can jump on the band wagon. Wow... How does that work - the family all pays a fee to Ambit so they can all mine the same group of customers. Interesting. But, "you know how to get what you need from the Internet," - that's encouraging... y I had my radar turned too high for scams, but I tend to ignore Multi-level solicitations face to face, let alone over the faceless Internet, where I can't look in the soulless eyes and see Im about to lose one way or the other.
wow...
(I only stumbled on this thread because a friend, unfortunately, got involved with ambit (actually early this morning at an unusual time and left a message like there was a major emergency situation that he need me to help with - only to call back and find out it was this trash.). They obviously are sending people out there with no backup/training because he couldn't answer a single question I asked... "So, Scottie,what do you know about energy deregulation??" Well, actually I know a lot...
I know that, out of desperation, he jumped on what he thought was a good idea because he needs a supplement to his income, but he hit on the same old Amway scheme where you get to be the pest of your friends and family for the foreseeable future, guilt your fixed-income parents and grandparents into buying your product, until they finally sign up for the service to get you to shut up "or, better yet, come work for me! and get it for free!(after - fine print - you pay the sign up fee, ruin the relationships you have with your own family and friends because you've exhausted everyone else so you can't stop calling them with "the greatest deal since slice bread (shhh. it's actually 22.8% higher per kw/h than my existing supplier), and sell your soul to the energy devil.)
but it's the residuals, man, the residuals... yeah... GTH.
You just said the words that I've been looking for! I have a relative that is a "consultant". He annoys the piss out of people with his pushy ways. I can't stand to see him or read his facebook posts because of the way he is about it. Thank you for saying this!
MissDaisy567

Beulah, CO

#31 May 28, 2013
guy wrote:
Dose anyone know what the story is with this ambit energy scam people have been talking about?
SCAM ALERT. AMBIT ENERGY is a scam. One of their reps (Leslie Zhang from Sacramento, CA) told me to sign up to be a consultant and join her team. I had to pay the company $458.16. After I realized the company was a scam, I asked for my money back. The company said that my three days had passed. I can't get my money back anymore.

It's a pyramid scheme. Don't let people tell you otherwise. Ambit will promise you a profit but that's a lie. Once you pay Ambit Energy, your hard-earned money is gone.

Do your homework and don't fall for Ambit Energy. It's a SCAM.
MissDaisy567

Beulah, CO

#32 May 28, 2013
ScottieR wrote:
Jennie, You helped me make up my mind. can hear your words play in my mind like a Tom Cruise Scientology justification interview on some third rate TV news mag.
someone asked "why are so many companies trying this it if it's a scam." I don't know about "so many", but, certainly, a certain type of company always seems to turn to this type of marketing, preying on those who are desperate for additional income that they'll pay to work for the company. It's seemingly a universal constant that those companies are selling the position more than the product, which always turns out to be questionable, at best (at least, after I researched ambit, the pricing, and have read the testimonials on both sides of the fence and tossed the ones that are obviously high in the kool-aid).
"Usually when my family and friends see how well Im doing, they ask on their own." How many times have you done this that your family asks you, when you've stopped by to show off your pink Cadillac (or do they have an ambit LED lightbulb, instead), if they can jump on the band wagon. Wow... How does that work - the family all pays a fee to Ambit so they can all mine the same group of customers. Interesting. But, "you know how to get what you need from the Internet," - that's encouraging... y I had my radar turned too high for scams, but I tend to ignore Multi-level solicitations face to face, let alone over the faceless Internet, where I can't look in the soulless eyes and see Im about to lose one way or the other.
wow...
(I only stumbled on this thread because a friend, unfortunately, got involved with ambit (actually early this morning at an unusual time and left a message like there was a major emergency situation that he need me to help with - only to call back and find out it was this trash.). They obviously are sending people out there with no backup/training because he couldn't answer a single question I asked... "So, Scottie,what do you know about energy deregulation??" Well, actually I know a lot...
I know that, out of desperation, he jumped on what he thought was a good idea because he needs a supplement to his income, but he hit on the same old Amway scheme where you get to be the pest of your friends and family for the foreseeable future, guilt your fixed-income parents and grandparents into buying your product, until they finally sign up for the service to get you to shut up "or, better yet, come work for me! and get it for free!(after - fine print - you pay the sign up fee, ruin the relationships you have with your own family and friends because you've exhausted everyone else so you can't stop calling them with "the greatest deal since slice bread (shhh. it's actually 22.8% higher per kw/h than my existing supplier), and sell your soul to the energy devil.)
but it's the residuals, man, the residuals... yeah... GTH.
ScottieR,

I totally agree with what you are saying here. Thank you for taking the time to write such a long post to expose Ambit Energy. People like Jennie are getting paid to write good things about Ambit Energy. I hope the government shuts down the company for fraud so people like Jennie can shut up.
sorry

Bellevue, WA

#33 May 29, 2013
Wonder how much fraud money the new mayor of Westfield is making?
Betty

Boston, MA

#35 Jun 20, 2013
Our ambit has cost more than ng.......switching back......how can u people represent a company that in a pyramid......preys on vulnerable people to climb on for $ and doesn't save people $.......in the end it will cost u "consultants" ur reputation
And others $.......at least u vultures will get nothing long term in the end......fools gold
Catherine and Walt -WNY

Boston, MA

#36 Jun 20, 2013
Wow Betty ......I just switched back to national grid also and let me tell you the hassle that Ambit gave us! On hold for 90 minutes and disconnected several times. I atruly like the friend that I signed up with and am embarrassed for her. This company rivals verizon with the worst customer service EVER. The difference is that we could switch back to national grid without a contract penalty. I am sorry if my friend is going to lose a commission but we were not saving, in fact paying more. I wish my friend never asked me. I am frankly angry that she did not do her homework. I assumed she was getting me a legit deal when in fact she jeopardized our relationship because she was desperate for money. We think this company is a cult for desperate people. Shame on them because these sales reps are gonna lose big time in the end. to any one who is thinking about signing up, Run run run run. We wish We read this before the bother. We will be telling our friends.
The Mayor of the world

Fredonia, NY

#37 Jun 20, 2013
Is it a scam? I don't think. Will it save you money? It might, but is it worth the hassle for a few cents savings? Maybe maybe not.. Just another multi-llevel marketing game. I have it and have saved a few cents but a pita, just did it becaus a friend was trying to make a go at it,
Jack Of All Trades

Hoboken, NJ

#38 Jun 23, 2013
Bucky wrote:
SCAM, big time
, ur just jealous that some people are motivated to make money and succeed and U dont.
Suspious

Clairton, PA

#39 Jun 27, 2013
I think it is a scam. It is a legal way to rob people with a suit on instead of gun. So why rob people when there are so many legal ways to steal money? If these consultants are getting these fat checks and free trips, where is all this money coming from? It is coming from over charging the customers. They get a lower rate for several month then all of a sudden that fixed rate skyrockets. Then next thing you know your electric bill is so high you can't handle it. Then they shut it off. And charge you to turn it back on. I had to pay over 1600 for using Palomo energy, all those suppliers are the same. I was told by my electric company that we pay them and the supplier. I was paying West Penn Power and Palomo and West Penn Power was charging me 5.4 cents per kilowatts and Palomo was charging me 13 cents. He said that they can charge anything they want as long as they give you the introductory rate for at least 6 months. And they are not held accountable for it but your main electric company is held accountable. The suppliers are how they can get their extra money. When I switched over I was under the impression that they would be my electric company. But West Penn and Palomo was and I had to pay them both. They stole money from me. I switched back to only west penn power. No more suppliers for me because they are all SCAMS!!!!!'m
JoeBlow

Houston, TX

#40 Jul 25, 2013
JoinJennie wrote:
<quoted text>
So, I would like to ask if this is a scam then why are so many major corporations turning to this business structure?
I encourage all of you to research the network marketing field.
I am an Ambit Energy consultant and I have been for over a year. I enjoy the freedom it allows me so that I am able to be the MOM I have always wanted to be. I do not pressure any of my friends, family, or neighbors into anything.

I hope you all have a blessed day!
It's over zealous marketing, unless you do it 24/7 and try and force it on everyone you see you will not make much money out of it.

Just go to a demonstration session and simply say you are not interested and see if they don't try and coerce you into signing up. They will not want you to leave and even insinuate that you just don't want to make money and become rich.

Never give a sucker an even break.

Lets look at an example they show on the website:

If you get to level 7 and sign up 3 consultants who each sign up 3 consultants and all your consultants sign up ten customers you will purportedly make over $57,000.00 per month, which is a lot of money, wow you think.

However you will have to have 3,280 consultants and 32,800 customers under you. This is from the Ambit Energy website.

Now for some facts, each of those consultants 3,280 consultants paid $429.00 to sign up which comes to over 1.4 million dollars.

For all 3,280 consultants to do what the example consultant did and earn $57,000 per month, it would mean they would have over 1 trillion customers signed up.

Now correct me if I am wrong but there is only around 90 million households in the U.S. and Ambit is only in a few states.

This should tell you that not a lot of people will get rich from this.

The system relies on the majority of people making little, nothing or actually losing money.

It can't work where most people make decent money out of it.

Of course Ambit will lead to believe the opposite.

You be the judge.
Ambit customer

Mckees Rocks, PA

#41 Oct 16, 2013
Zippi de do dah wrote:
Is Ambit a scam?
You figure it out
National Grid this month .02117 per KW Ambit .0412646 Per KW
Anyway you spin it Ambit fans/consultants/etc. The cost is double what the utility price is.
And you get to pay them a fee to represent them. Sweet Deal!!
I am saving about a third -$0.099 to what Ambit gives me-$0.062 on my electric bill. Your national grid talk is laughable. The rates are different everywhere. Idiot. Go back to your peanut butter and dog.
Oy vey

Jamestown, NY

#42 Oct 26, 2013
Just in case any intelligent people might be looking at this website and thread and see all the negative comments regarding Ambit Energy, I would hope you would also look at LEGITIMATE sources that review businesses. Ambit Energy has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau. JD Powers has ranked them #1 in Customer Satisfaction in New York State among retail energy providers. The Direct Selling Association ranks them as the #1 direct selling energy provider in the world, and the #14 direct selling energy company worldwide. Over 1 million customers who have the power to choose their electricity and natural gas supplier HAVE CHOSEN AMBIT ENERGY, making Ambit the fastest growing privately held company in America in 2010 (Inc. Magazine) and listed on Inc.'s fastest growing list since. Ask yourself if any of these LEGITIMATE honors and recognitions would be possible if the ANONYMOUS clowns on TOPIX were correct and Ambit was the scam they say it is. If marketing energy is not for you, fine. If switching to Ambit as your energy is not for you, fine too. But Ambit Energy gives millions of dollars to thousands of every day ordinary people through free energy and income from customer referrals -- instead of giving it to advertising agencies or keeping it in big business. That's a mission I am proud to support as an Ambit Energy partner. Churches, single moms, coaches, teachers, students, etc., etc. are earning a little extra income just by helping people save on their energy bills. In New York, Ambit guarantees savings -- so those in NY saying they are paying more are just trash talking. I doubt Ambit, or any company, would jeopardize their state certification just so they can charge Joe Schmoe from Westfield double on their kWh rate -- get real. And stop trash talking the part-time businesses of lots of good people. It is apparent you work for the competition or are just simply ignorant.
Bill

Dunkirk, NY

#43 Oct 26, 2013
Oy vey
Maybe a great company, but it's even better at alienating family and friends.I have seen first hand the toll it takes if you choose not to join. Don't believe me, ask the people who opt out. Maybe the company could take some of the money at the next Ambition conference and teach ethics,integrity, honesty,unpretentiousness
Jack

Dunkirk, NY

#44 Oct 27, 2013
I agree with Bill, if you choose not to join the people are not your friends anymore. Seen it myself and have heard from others. Stay clear of people who are involved in it, they are not your true friends.
TAXPAYER

United States

#45 Oct 27, 2013
Jack wrote:
I agree with Bill, if you choose not to join the people are not your friends anymore. Seen it myself and have heard from others. Stay clear of people who are involved in it, they are not your true friends.
Well said Jack!
Oy vey

Jamestown, NY

#46 Oct 30, 2013
Bill, Jack and Taxpayer, I agree with what you've said. Like any organization that involves people, you get many who lead with integrity and many others who don't. On behalf of the many good Ambit consultants, I am sorry for the way your friends have treated you. That stinks. Any of the Ambit trainings I have been to do not support this kind of treatment at all -- in fact, the opposite is true. We're reminded to not take it personal if after showing the opportunity, someone does not want to join you in business or even be your customer -- it's certainly what we train our team to do. At the same time, I'm sure you can understand that it is sometimes hard to do.....anybody who starts any kind of business -- Ambit or otherwise -- would hope they have at least the support of their friends and family -- and when friends and family immediately say no, criticize, etc., it's difficult for most people to hear. I hope your friendships can be restored -- we all could practice better grace and forgiveness. Ambit consultants, like everybody, are trying to find additional ways to make ends meet in this tough economy of ours. In NY, you can switch your electricity and natural gas to Ambit and help a family member or friend; you're guaranteed to save -- not tons, but you'll save -- and you'll help a friend and lots of other good people trying to make a go at as a small-business owner. You can also earn free energy for helping 15 others switch -- and that is a huge savings. If more people were willing to do that, just think of how much that would help our local communities. I'd much rather help local people who are working a business -- good people who help in our local community -- vs. supporting another big energy company or the utility. I can't ever remember seeing National Grid/Fuel people volunteering at a church, school, or community event -- but I sure have seen a lot of Ambit Consultants doing that. Why not support them? I choose to do so. Just like I choose to buy local with other things whenever I can. Ambit Energy is a good company. I hope you won't let a few bad apples turn you off to the bigger picture of the good things that Ambit can do for our small, local communities like Jamestown, Bemus, Cassadaga, Falconer, Westfield, etc. Many of us appreciate your support.
oy vey

Jamestown, NY

#47 Oct 30, 2013
Here's what I share when I am asking friends and family to consider Ambit Energy:

As energy deregulation rolls out across America, it has the power to do great things. My Ambit Energy team is using it to make a positive difference in the communities we live in. We help families, small businesses & organizations save on their energy bills. Depending on the market they are in, some save a little, some save a lot; as your Ambit Energy rep, I will stay engaged and informed to ensure my customers are saving. We help many people earn free energy, every month -- and that's huge. Ambit Energy is the only energy company that offers its customers the opportunity to earn free energy -- and lots of people in Western New York and Pennsylvania are receiving free energy. We also help people earn income as a small business owner partnered with Ambit Energy. They also develop their business and leadership skills too. Together, we contribute back to our local economies and strengthen our communities. Energy deregulation is giving more people the power to choose their electricity and natural gas provider. When you choose Ambit Energy and become your own customer, or the customer of a friend or family member, you help empower great things by keeping more energy dollars local -- helping good people save money, earn money, and give back to the hometowns we love. Thank you for doing so.

Bill, Jack, and Taxpayer...give this script to your friends. There is no reason to use anything but positive words when they are asking people to choose Ambit. The facts about what Ambit does, the benefits they offer, and the good people they help are enough. No strong-arm tactics are ever necessary. If people don't want to switch, that is there choice and their right to say no. Move on. Stay friends. There are plenty of other people who see the good things that Ambit does. One million loyal customers in 7 years is a great start. The energy companies mistreating customers with increased rates, contracts, heavy penalties for canceling, etc. will (hopefully) soon be gone as their unethical practices are exposed. Ambit Energy doesn't use any of that here in NY and PA. No cost to enroll, no contracts, no cost to cancel and you can switch back at any time.(It takes about 1 billing cycle to switch back to the utility, just like it did to switch to Ambit.) Ambit has the best customer loyalty and retention in the industry because they DO treat customers well. It's why we are growing fast -- as more people realize that more people are actually coming to Ambit reps and saying they want to switch to Ambit. I just switched a friend who was with another energy company who was charging her double the Ambit rate (and much more than the rate she could have had with her utility.) It makes me sick that some companies do that. Ambit doesn't. Look at the facts and strictly the facts, and you'll see its true.

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