Teaching Gay History in California

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Curteese wrote:

<quoted text>Why not go put in an application to be a member of NAACP, or try to join The Puerto Rican Pride movement? They will certainly add you as a supporter, but you are NOT those demographics.
You are NOT gay. Is that such a difficult concept for you, or are you UNSURE?
If you are SO hot to join the gay crowd, my offer still stands. I'm waitin' for ya...naked and hairy and fresh from the gym. Tell me that does NOT fill you with an emotion....either fear or lust. The way you respond is all the answer you need.

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Reality wrote:

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being gay is not required to be LGBT.
are there members of the LGBT that like the opposite sex?
yes.
so the LGBT obviously cannot be denying me for liking the opposite sex..
so it must be animus.
or can you provide a rational reason the LGBT can deny me equality?

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Mona Lott wrote:

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Is that right? Hate crime law protections are based on SEXUAL ORIENTATION, not just LGBT. If you were really an attorney, you would know that. But we realise that you're just a lying little mental case.

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Star Spangled Banner wrote:

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Hate crimes are bs, for every bs hate law there is already a law in place. Just because someone is black, white, gay or not doesn't mean that a crime against them is more an important than against someone else , thus should not be weighted.

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Reality wrote:

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please post a case or even a news story about about a hate crime against a straight...
just one...
I see stats for a very small percentage but bigotry must prevents more convictions... or media coverage.
Now since I am a member of a protected class of LGBT, I too have extra rights that you have tried to deny me based on nothing but your animus...
I am LGBT and your derogatory comments about my orientation are actionable you... bigot.
Equal rights for all!

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TomInElPaso wrote:

It's like arguing with a door knob.
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Reality wrote:

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you deny me based only on my sexual orientation and your bigotry.
It must be since some folks in the LGBT are attracted to the opposite sex, so there is no requirement of being purely homosexual.
yet you maintain LGBT is just for gays, but I showed you an exception which therefore negates the rule RIGHT?
Oh, only when you are being denied legal protections, not me, RIGHT?
hypocritical bigot!

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Reality wrote:

why do you hate me so much?

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Reality wrote:

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I do not get the protections of hate crime laws because I you are denying me equality of being an LGBT member.

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As I have said, other LGBT members like the opposite sex, so why am I denied benefits except for the fact they hate straights?
what is the rational reason to deny me equal rights to LGBT status?

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Reality wrote:

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so wait, the exception that some LGBT's like straight sex is not a reason to deny the rule that LGBT has to do with being gay?
even though its not REQUIRED that you only be attracted to gays?
That doesn't make sense since marriage cannot be about procreation because procreation is not REQUIRED. That some folks are infertile negates the rule that procreation is an aim of marriage, right?
Why isn't the fact that LGBT members are attracted to straights negate your position I must be gay to be LGBT?
I just thought you may apply your logic evenly...just kidding I never thought you would.
in short, I would claim your analogies as above are correct, your inability to procreate bars your marriage like my straightness bars me from being LGBT...

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Honest AbeL wrote:

You obviously missed his entire point. Slow down on the hatred and try reading what he wrote
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Reality wrote:

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Do bisexuals like the opposite sex just like me?
yes, they do...
do some transgenders remain straight?
yes, they do.
so being gay is not required. Why do you think it is?
So you must just want straight out of the LGBT out of hatred...
since there is no other rational reason...
and I wonder how a law based on nothing but my sexual orientation is not a violation of equal protection as I am clearly a second class citizen since I am denied LGBT status...

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Star Spangled Banner wrote:

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Hate crimes are bs, for every bs hate law there is already a law in place. Just because someone is black, white, gay or not doesn't mean that a crime against them is more an important than against someone else , thus should not be weighted.

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Reality wrote:

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please post a case or even a news story about about a hate crime against a straight...
just one...

Reality wrote:

I see stats for a very small percentage but bigotry must prevents more convictions... or media coverage.

Mona Lott wrote:

<quoted text>And he thinks he can pass himself off as an attorney!

JessicaDawn wrote:

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this person is a true idiot, if they know law they would know that if sexual orentation and/or gender identity are not protected that one can be fired for being gay or straght, one can be fired for being trans or cis, In some states I could start a buisness and refuse to hire any straght cis gender person or I could fire any straght cisgender person, but this idiot refuses to learn anything, if they are an attorney they got their law degree from a cracker jack box, because with his poor understanding of law and logic there is no way he passed law school or could even figure out how to get to where the bar exam was being given.

Mona Lott wrote:

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I couldn't agree more.

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M C Mallet wrote:

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When did you turn gay?

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Rose_NoHo wrote:

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Hate crime legislation is a good idea, because hate crimes have a different type of effect on individuals and communities. They are terrorist acts. It's not just a matter of a victim being black, white, gay, it's a matter of motivation.

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Star Spangled Banner wrote:

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What a load of BS, sorry but that does not hold water. If you are killed with premeditation it is murder whether you are black, gay ect.. for you people to want some damn special classification is BS and the majority of the population (normal people) are done giving you and other classes special treatment.