Mormon church to build 5 new temples worldwide

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Mormons or Morons wrote:

Sue I think the stance they took on Prop 8 was wayyyyy out of hand they had NO right sticking there noses in the rest of the worlds beliefs they try nothing more then to try and "rule" the world I think they should stick to there own business and STOP trying to run other peoples lives!!! I DONT hate the mormons but I HATE that they put there nose where it DONT belong!

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Pahoran wrote:

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Okay, just so we can be sure we all understand you: is it fair ta say that, in your view, the Church of Jesus Christ should not have put its views into the public square?
If that is the case, do you believe this should apply to all religious groups, or only the hated Mormons?
Or, alternatively, should it apply only to those of conservative views?
Regards,
Pahoran

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NoMo wrote:

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YOUR leaders funded their hatred with YOUR tithe money...Did they ask any of you before they spent tens of MILLIONS of your hard earned ten percent?

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Any religion actively pursuing bigotry and funding bigotry has been called out. You aren't that special. Hateful but not special.

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Gagthemaggot wrote:

Any religion actively pursuing bigotry and funding bigotry has been called out.
Right! We should allow group marraige too, and man/boy love as well and don't forget your assorted barnyard animals. By all means please save us from these prudes who think perversion is disgusting. I say let the gays do it in the street! Let them demonstrate how its done in the classroom! In fact let's outlaw heterosexual behavior just for the effing heck of it!
Let NoNo set the rules.

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Pahoran wrote:

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You keep making this assertion. Are you really ignorant of the fact that it is false, or do you just enjoy making false claims?
The Church gave no money to Prop. 8; that is a fact. Various people -- Church members and others -- donated to the pro-8 cause. The anti-8 cause raised more money than pro-8, yet the proposition still passed.
Why?
Because a majority of California voters believed that marriage entails a man and a woman.
There's no "hatred" there, just logic.
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If any Latter-day Saint ever said anything in my hearing that was one tenth as hateful towards anyone else as you are to us, I would pull him up on it.
You still remain the gold standard for hatefulness, NoMo.
Regards,
Pahoran

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NoMo wrote:

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Changing the subject doesn't change the facts. Your leaders spent tens of millions of your tithing dollars

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to fund hatred.
Ranting ridiculously doesn't change them either.

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Your church is still under investigation for what they have done.

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No hatred?? You have no idea what you are talking about..

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What "tens of millions" were those?
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Speaking of "ranting ridiculously."
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NoMo, I know it's hard, but just for a change, how about injecting a little accuracy into the discussion? What harm can it possibly do?
The Church is "still under investigation" to see whether a certain sore loser's claim about the Church's *meeting reporting deadlines* will hold up.
It's not under investigation about any "tens of millions of tithing dollars" because there weren't any.
Get over it.
The Church's total institutional contribution to Prop 8 was some in-kind stuff -- travelling expenses, and so forth -- amounting to a grand total of about $190,000.
By comparison, the "Yes" campaign raised about $34 million, and the "No" campaign somewhat *more*.
The largest single donation was about $2,000,000. That did come from a contributor in Utah.
But before you shout "Aha!" and leap to the assumption that the Utah donor was a front for the Church: that donation went to the "No" campaign.
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See above. Maybe I know a little more than you assume.
Regards,
Pahoran