Byron: Reactor goes down

Equipment Problem Suspected As Cause Of Nuclear Plant Shutdown
January 31, 2012

Byron, Ill.(CBS)— Authorities continue to investigate why a reactor went down at a nuclear power plant near Rockford.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/31/equipm...

"According to the NRC, smoke was seen from an on-site transformer, but no fire was found by responders. It said steam is being released from the plant to aid in the cooling process and does not represent a threat to the public."
http://www.rrstar.com/news/x1622349458/Regula...

More:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/30/shutdo...

Idiot-dust wrote:

Old news from an old hag

Mulligan already posted this with some of his own insight.

Thanks for nothing as usual.

I Crow More Than You wrote:

Since I have nothing useful to say & I'm mad as hell because VY fate is as uncertain as ever, I'll just vomit the typical puke because, after all I'm really just a troll.

Crazier than a rat in the shit*y house much? I thought so.

Since my comments trouble you so, I suggest to stop reading them dummy.

I said to myself,

"Since I have nothing useful to say & I'm mad as hell because VY is going to stay open for another twenty years, I'll just vomit the typical puke because, after all I'm really just a troll guided by my nuclear fear."

And I would just like to add...I am really really mad this time.

this Vermonter-dust wrote:

said to myself, "Since I have nothing useful to say & I'm mad as hell because VY is going to stay open for another twenty years, I'll just vomit the typical puke because, after all I'm really just a troll guided by my nuclear fear."
And I would just like to add...I am really really mad this time.

My my. How you do go on & on. When have you *not* been "really, really mad this time" bigot boy? Take your meds angry one.

star-dust wrote:

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My my. How you do go on & on. When have you *not* been "really, really mad this time" bigot boy? Take your meds angry one.

"bigot"? You must not know what that means. Is that another term you use when you are attempting to bully people?

Oh wait I am an bigot...I don't treat bullies like you equally. I am predjudice against bullies like you.

<YAWN>

We need that New Orleans band to get here soon! NSD is so tired and bored; some real perking up is in order.

Special inspection already...

http://www.power-eng.com/articles/2012/01/nrc...

Jan 31, 2012

The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) on Jan. 31 said it started a Special Inspection to review the circumstances around the loss of off-site power that led to a Unit 2 reactor shutdown on Jan. 30 at Exelon Generation Co.’s two-unit, 2,336 MW Byron nuclear power plant.
The special inspection team will look into how plant equipment responded to the loss of off-site power. The NRC said the team will review the sequence of events and review the plants actions surrounding the incident. The team will also review the plant’s evaluation of what happened, their plan for addressing the cause of the event, and the implementation of their corrective actions.

Illinois Nuclear Power Plant Loses Power … Vents Radioactive Steam
Washington's Blog
Prisonplanet.com/illinois-nuclear-power-plant...
"While the nuclear industry and its lapdogs in the nuclear agencies say that living near a nuclear plant is safe, numerous scientific studies have found that – even when operating normally – the plants cause cancer.For example, numerous peer-reviewed scientific studies from around the world show that the incidence of leukemia is much higher for people living near nuclear plants. See this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
(^click link above to get those links)
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VeteransToday.com/2012/01/31/notice-byron-ill...
^"The two Byron nuclear stations generate almost 7 Billion Watts of heat, 2.3 Billion Watts is turned into electricity; the remaining 4.7 Billion Watts of Heat is wasted heating up the Rock River.
This is perfectly in line with the normal abysmal efficiency of the big nuke power reactors of at most 33%. Equivalent Billion Watt coal and/or natural gas power plants hit 60% efficiency. Light radioactive gases are being released in steam from the turbine building. Excelon says this includes radioactive Hydrogen. Excelon’s description would be funny if it was not an outright lie and murderous in its application.

The simple fact of the matter is that radioactive hydrogen combines readily with water and all of us humans are 70% water.What’s more, 80% of the molecular bonds in human bodies are hydrogen bonds. The radioactive hydrogen goes right through our clothes and skin to wreck havoc on a molecular scale.

Vets, Don’t Go to Byron, Il. Because of this, I’d stay clear of the Byron, Illinois area for the immediate future.

All American nuclear reactors must be fed electricity from the electric grid from two separate directions. The outside electricity is used to power the Emergency Generators. It is a very interesting question, then from a military standpoint, of how both electrical feeds at the Byron Station were discontinued at the same time.

Alex wrote:

Illinois Nuclear Power Plant Loses Power … Vents Radioactive Steam
Washington's Blog
Prisonplanet.com/illinois-nuclear-power-plant...
"While the nuclear industry and its lapdogs in the nuclear agencies say that living near a nuclear plant is safe, numerous scientific studies have found that – even when operating normally – the plants cause cancer.For example, numerous peer-reviewed scientific studies from around the world show that the incidence of leukemia is much higher for people living near nuclear plants. See this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
(^click link above to get those links)

VeteransToday.com/2012/01/31/notice-byron-ill...
^"The two Byron nuclear stations generate almost 7 Billion Watts of heat, 2.3 Billion Watts is turned into electricity; the remaining 4.7 Billion Watts of Heat is wasted heating up the Rock River.
This is perfectly in line with the normal abysmal efficiency of the big nuke power reactors of at most 33%. Equivalent Billion Watt coal and/or natural gas power plants hit 60% efficiency. Light radioactive gases are being released in steam from the turbine building. Excelon says this includes radioactive Hydrogen. Excelon’s description would be funny if it was not an outright lie and murderous in its application.
The simple fact of the matter is that radioactive hydrogen combines readily with water and all of us humans are 70% water.What’s more, 80% of the molecular bonds in human bodies are hydrogen bonds. The radioactive hydrogen goes right through our clothes and skin to wreck havoc on a molecular scale.
Vets, Don’t Go to Byron, Il. Because of this, I’d stay clear of the Byron, Illinois area for the immediate future.
All American nuclear reactors must be fed electricity from the electric grid from two separate directions. The outside electricity is used to power the Emergency Generators. It is a very interesting question, then from a military standpoint, of how both electrical feeds at the Byron Station were discontinued at the same time.

Thank you for the jokes Alex, this was very funny, the Steam generators on a PWR only use clean demin water, and have no contamination in them, so, sorry not contaminated steam. This by the way is very easily verified.

A properly maintain SG can be pretty clean...of very little radiological concern.

But the reactor water side depending in the status of the fuel pellet cladding can be pretty dirty...

And getting the reactor cooled down quickly in a emergency is way more important than insignificant radioactivity.

One insulator failing in a switchyard is not suppose to isolate outside electricity to a nuclear plant. VY has four or five independent lines coming into the plant. Because lost of offsite power is so dangerous to a plant, these utilities spend big engineering bucks and throw up tons of stainless high voltage electrical towers and breaker, such that by automatic mean a plant always has outside power. A plant is designed to have a diverse source of power to their ring bus.

This is what it takes to create a LOOP...the one at VY in 1992.

It takes a really lot of crazies.

Everyone knew in 1992 the VY switchyard was dangerously obsolete and a dinosaur. Some safety components couldn't be tested because of a initial design defect in construction. Courses we got a brand new switchyard built only a few years ago now. Actually it very beautiful.

The old VY switchyard had redundant control and trip emergency power sources. Meaning they had two identical and separated control power supplies for the breakers and the protective circuits. They have two separate backup large battery banks and chargers feeding the batteries...they feed the redundant power supplies.

So the NRC dinged VY saying you need to replace the old batteries. They can do that either at power or more safely at shutdown. The problem with doing it at shutdown is it would delay the expensive outage. Some really important safety critical maintenance that absolutely has to be done is just too risk full to the community to perform at power or when shutdown...so they just don't do it.

Some really important safety critical maintenance that absolutely has to be done is just too risk full to the community to perform at power or when shutdown...so they just don't do it.

So VY came up with a great idea...lets remove the batteries and we can float the safety trip system on the chargers. The chargers are "not" designed for this...they are designed to charge the batteries. Then somebody said I got a better efficient idea...lets cross connect both power systems and then we need only one charger and no batteries.

So they had both systems cross connected and on one charger and batteries. When they opened the battery breaker...removed it from the system, both systems on one charger and no batteries...there was a lot of funny rhythmic increase in electric humming. Then the noise of extremely loud sounds of pop corn popping...that be the sound of those enormously large switchyard high voltage breakers (about 15) opening all at one time.

The guy who was in charge of this operation has a IQ of 152. He brags about his IQ. He is a really smart guy.

He got fired for having 4 secret drunk driving convictions...the pending child abuse charge for 6 years didn't help his case, then two missing women...

He rode to work in a air boat..

So A LOOP trip is bad...a prolonged disconnect from the grid makes it a much worst accident.

I wonder what their specs call for as a requirement to be reconnected to the grid usually 10 to 12 hours.

Byron was disconnected from the grid for 33 hours...

I bet you that sits way outside the norms for average LOOPs...most are in the range of 2 to 4 hours...

They say Fukushima melted down in 12 to 24 hours...

They are required to have the equipment and analysis on site that could quickly reconnect the grid to the from any possible LOOP...

Overall, LOOP frequencies during power operation decreased significantly over the 37 years from
1968 through 2004. The overall trend shows a statistically significant decrease through 1996, and thenstabilized from 1997 through 2002. This decrease in the frequency of LOOP events is largely attributable to a decrease in the number of plant-centered and switchyard-centered events beginning in the mid-1990s.

In fact, only one plant-centered event occurred during the period from 1997 through 2004. Nonetheless,the number of LOOP events in 2003 and 2004 was much higher than in previous years. Specifically, 12 LOOP events occurred in 2003, and 5 occurred in 2004.

What the NRC are unknowingly talking about 2005 is Fukushima...and we all know we in the USA we drastically underplayed the risk of a blackout...

A blackout happens when you lose the grid, both DG's then stop or don't work...

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections...

Reevaluation of Station Blackout Risk at Nuclear Power Plants

Nonetheless,the number of LOOP events in 2003 and 2004 was much higher than in previous years. Specifically, 12 LOOP events occurred in 2003, and 5 occurred in 2004.