Why we support Hillary

Flrepublican wrote:

clinton is a terrible candidate if she wasnt a women and wasn't the former first lady u would have no idea who she is.she has no experioence actually runniny any form of goverment alll she has done is sit on her asws and vote for things how is she qualified to become our next president

This is coming from someone that can't spell? So what do you think the rest will think with your ignorant comment? If Republicans switched for a day and he thinks they are on his side, I have news for him as well as those that attended the revivals. That was strategy! The Republicans will come at him from all sides, then he will know what dirty politics HE played. He's inexperienced, he's a liar because he wants people to believe how he denounced Farrakhan, he attends a church that it's sole purpose is for the advancement of Africa,(Oprah I believe attends that church also), he distanced himself from Hispanics but now wants their vote, he's had ties with Rezko who will be prosecuted soon, his wife who wants to be first lady, said this was the first time she was proud of her country, she also wrote in her thesis that "blacks had to unite against the white oppressor," he said he would meet with Castro without pre-existing conditions, has a close friend, Frank Marshall Davis (a Communist), he admitted in his books that he attended socialist conferences and read marxist literature, he has no foreign policy experience, he's weak in all areas and all he can do is mention CHANGE and talk unity? Oh give me a break. That isn't a president to me, that is a slick man that people created by making him think he was the best person for the job. No he's not! Your very hatred will wind up hurting each and everyone of you that gave him your vote and stood by him.

Ten key votes by Hillary Clinton

• Introduction
• Habeas corpus protection
• Immigration enforcement
• Medicare prescriptions
• Minors and abortion
• U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq
• Fetal rights
• Partial-birth abortion
• Conflict in Iraq
• International Criminal Court
• Child tax credit


May 23, 2001
Bill to cut income tax rates and estate tax rates and increase the child tax credit.

Clinton's vote: No

Yes, 62; No, 38

Bill passed; see full results

athy wrote:
TO PEPPERMINT PATTY AND BUSTERHEBOA-RE:
YOU SAID:
Senator Barack Obama debated his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night and said his biggest mistake was voting with a unanimous Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri is the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
This is really deceiving. The Senate vote was unanimous because ONLY three Senators were there to vote.
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Barack The Rock Wrote Post # 564
What does this even matter and why in the heck do you keep posting it everywhere?
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Hi B-
It matters very much...I watched the debate too and I didn't catch this point until bloggers on these sites posted their remarks. Then, I researched to confirm the facts. NO ONE IN THE US MEDIA CAUGHT THIS-OR PERHAPS THEY DID AND CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ABOUT IT...I was VERY disappointed with response Senator Barack Obama gave when asked what was his biggest mistake while in office. He was being VERY disengenious and/or lying.He said his biggest mistake was voting with a UNANIMOUS Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri was the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
Yes Sen. Obama-was technically correct-the Senate vote was unanimous BECAUSE ONLY THREE SENATORS WERE THERE TO VOTE (Bill Frist (R-TN), Rick Santorum (R-PA), and Mel Martinez (R-FL).The remaining 97 Senators were not present. SEN OBAMA - AND THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS APPROVED THIS-WHILE THE REST OF THE SENATE (97 US SENATORS)WERE OUT OF TOWN??? HE WAS OK WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS??? As a US citizen, I am very uncomfortable with this...
How many times has he ridiculed Sen. Clinton about 'doing things behind closed doors?
IS THIS THE WAY IT WILL BE IF HE WINS NOMINATION AND BECOMES PRESIDENT???WILL HE CONTINUE TO CLOAK HIS ANSWERS LIKE THIS AND APPROVE LEGISLATION IN A SIMILIAR MANNER-WHILE IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS AND ELECTED US OFFICIALS ARE OUT OF TOWN???-IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED.HE REPRESENTS THE "SAME OLD SAME OLD". So much for CHANGE IN GOV'T...
P.S.
The bill passed unanimously and no formal record of the vote was made. This still is the United States of AMerica, isn't it...
Thanks for asking-have a good night...

AvidTrober wrote:

experience: she has none.
- White House: she didn't have clearance to be privy to Presidential and executive information. She doesn't have experience as President. "We are the President" is a hallmark statement of contempt for the office and the American people.
- conviction:??? Her positions change, her values change, she HID all she could from personally addressing the press until the heat was one. She is the least grounded of ALL the candidates (whether left or right, Dem or GOP), a flip-flopping politican surpreme.*Polls* are her values.
- ability: she's a terrible orator, a director and has the heart of a dungeon master.
We're hurting for quality in any party, but Hillary is bottom of the barrel when it comes to character and principals.

This statement displays your ignorance of the facts of Senator Clinton's career and life. If you had done any reading whatsoever, concerning her accomplishments, you might think twice, about those statements you made. There is a lot more to Senator Clinton's career than is reflected in the biased media. Learn to be a critical thinker.

athy wrote:

athy wrote:
TO PEPPERMINT PATTY AND BUSTERHEBOA-RE:
YOU SAID:
Senator Barack Obama debated his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night and said his biggest mistake was voting with a unanimous Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri is the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
This is really deceiving. The Senate vote was unanimous because ONLY three Senators were there to vote.
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Barack The Rock Wrote Post # 564
What does this even matter and why in the heck do you keep posting it everywhere?
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Hi B-
It matters very much...I watched the debate too and I didn't catch this point until bloggers on these sites posted their remarks. Then, I researched to confirm the facts. NO ONE IN THE US MEDIA CAUGHT THIS-OR PERHAPS THEY DID AND CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ABOUT IT...I was VERY disappointed with response Senator Barack Obama gave when asked what was his biggest mistake while in office. He was being VERY disengenious and/or lying.He said his biggest mistake was voting with a UNANIMOUS Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri was the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
Yes Sen. Obama-was technically correct-the Senate vote was unanimous BECAUSE ONLY THREE SENATORS WERE THERE TO VOTE (Bill Frist (R-TN), Rick Santorum (R-PA), and Mel Martinez (R-FL).The remaining 97 Senators were not present. SEN OBAMA - AND THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS APPROVED THIS-WHILE THE REST OF THE SENATE (97 US SENATORS)WERE OUT OF TOWN??? HE WAS OK WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS??? As a US citizen, I am very uncomfortable with this...
How many times has he ridiculed Sen. Clinton about 'doing things behind closed doors?
IS THIS THE WAY IT WILL BE IF HE WINS NOMINATION AND BECOMES PRESIDENT???WILL HE CONTINUE TO CLOAK HIS ANSWERS LIKE THIS AND APPROVE LEGISLATION IN A SIMILIAR MANNER-WHILE IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS AND ELECTED US OFFICIALS ARE OUT OF TOWN???-IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED.HE REPRESENTS THE "SAME OLD SAME OLD". So much for CHANGE IN GOV'T...
P.S.
The bill passed unanimously and no formal record of the vote was made. This still is the United States of AMerica, isn't it...
Thanks for asking-have a good night...

Yes Barack Hussein Obama has a habit of doing things underhanded then he looks at you like uh, I, well, I, I, uh, uh. Did you hear the trouble he had in saying he rejected Farrakhan? Uh, um, uh, uh. He was all over. So terribly sad that Americans can give this man the nomination. That will really be the saddest, treacherous and most divided day.

We can't have a Commander-in-Chief who cries when things are not going her way. This crying baby will be defeated by McCain on the first round. She has nothing to offer but the same old story of the Clintons. She is running for the sole purpose of satisfying her ego, her personal ugly ambition and greed. She wants to be president because she thinks it is now her turn. She only wishes to finish up creating the Clinton dynasty in politics. She is not for anyone but herself. She fakes. She speaks with no sincerity. She lies when she says that the country needs someone like her.

The people had spoken. Her desperation is turning into rudeness. She is losing her temper. It is predicted that she will lose both Texas and Ohio. She should pack-up and go home on March 5.

Obama will defeat McCain and become the first Afro-American President in history.

Like most Orama supporters,(or McCain, Bush, etc. makes no difference) you are grossly misinformed. Roughly half of this country, which is about 150 million people support Hillary Clinton. Check the latest polls!! http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/...

Pitiful wrote:

<quoted text>I LOVED YOUR COMMENT!!! I HAVE NOT LAUGHED SO HARD IN A LONG, LONG TIME. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT!

Why are you regressing back to your girl-hating prepubescent days, mister? Don't you know how stupid you sound? You silly man :) Here are a few of the many male politicians that have cried...

links on political crying:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story...
picture of Bush #2 and Bill Clinton crying:
http://dailywhackjob.com/index.php/2008/01/09...

Andrez Lopez wrote:

We can't have a Commander-in-Chief who cries when things are not going her way. This crying baby will be defeated by McCain on the first round. She has nothing to offer but the same old story of the Clintons. She is running for the sole purpose of satisfying her ego, her personal ugly ambition and greed. She wants to be president because she thinks it is now her turn. She only wishes to finish up creating the Clinton dynasty in politics. She is not for anyone but herself. She fakes. She speaks with no sincerity. She lies when she says that the country needs someone like her.
The people had spoken. Her desperation is turning into rudeness. She is losing her temper. It is predicted that she will lose both Texas and Ohio. She should pack-up and go home on March 5.
Obama will defeat McCain and become the first Afro-American President in history.

Pitiful wrote:

<quoted text>I LOVED YOUR COMMENT!!! I HAVE NOT LAUGHED SO HARD IN A LONG, LONG
TIME. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT!

That's Because First You're A Rethug,Second You're Ignorant,Third Who Cares How Long It's Been Since Your Dumb A-- Laughed,And Last It Just Goes To Show That The Rethugs Will Go To Any Extremes To Oust The Best President This Country Will Have Ever Seen Since William J. Clinton,Now Theirs Something Else For Your Stupid A-- To Laugh At.

I too believe that Hillary Clinton is the real thing. She has it all. Can I ask all of you a question that turns in my mind? If she was not sincerely trying to do the best job as a leader for us..what else could possibly motivate her? She has power, prestige, money, a beautiful and grounded intelligent and respectful daughter...what else? A marriage that by sheer will and determination with stood every blow inflicted-from outsiders to self inflicted hurtful blows on a world stage. Mrs Clinton in my eyes is a champion. A hero for all of us to view when we need a lift for our deflated spirits.
I believe-she is committed to Americans, what ever race, creed or nationality we herald from as we became citizens. I believe also that her experience is not just honed by her 35 years of service to all of us, but, by the very nature of women. As women we see more details, express more openly and accomplish by a male standard much more than males on an everyday basis.
There are 17 other nations with women at the helm and fortunately for all of us-if we explore the condition of those nations-we will find that all of them are decent and healing..those nations are proud and respectful and all of the women who lead those nations would be honored to share a dais with Hillary as her compassion and humanity are the epitome of who we wish we where and all we wish we could be as human beings.

Andrez Lopez wrote:

We can't have a Commander-in-Chief who cries when things are not going her way. This crying baby will be defeated by McCain on the first round. She has nothing to offer but the same old story of the Clintons. She is running for the sole purpose of satisfying her ego, her personal ugly ambition and greed. She wants to be president because she thinks it is now her turn. She only wishes to finish up creating the Clinton dynasty in politics. She is not for anyone but herself. She fakes. She speaks with no sincerity. She lies when she says that the country needs someone like her.
The people had spoken. Her desperation is turning into rudeness. She is losing her temper. It is predicted that she will lose both Texas and Ohio. She should pack-up and go home on March 5.
Obama will defeat McCain and become the first Afro-American President in history.

I totally agree with you. We can't have a president that whines everytime he loses like Obama has or has to keep in contact with Oprah or has a wife that says that "blacks have to unite because of the white oppressor," or that this is the first time she's been proud of her country. We can't have a president that votes present instead of being PRESENT. We can't have a president that belongs to a church that is for the advancement of AFRICA. We can't have a president that has a hard time saying he rejects FARRAKHAN, who happens to be a racist against whites and Jews. We can't have a president that distanced himself from Hispanics in CA but is kissing their ass in Texas and Ohio. We can't have a president who says what he would do by bombing a country instead of being quiet about it. That is not experience, that is not maturity, that is not knowing how to deal with your enemy, that is not protecting your country or it's citizens. That IS STUPIDITY AND EGOCENTRICITY and you will eat your words for what you wrote and every person that backs Barack Hussein Obama!

Jack The Ripper wrote:

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That's Because First You're A Rethug,Second You're Ignorant,Third Who Cares How Long It's Been Since Your Dumb A-- Laughed,And Last It Just Goes To Show That The Rethugs Will Go To Any Extremes To Oust The Best President This Country Will Have Ever Seen Since William J. Clinton,Now Theirs Something Else For Your Stupid A-- To Laugh At.

May God bless you!!!! You surely need it.

I just receive a survey from the DNC today. One of the question ask me if I feel the Republican will try to disenfranchise the democratic vote? Who the heck are they kidding when in fact, they have decided to strip Florida and Michigan delegates??? Now they ask for my contribution to defeat the Republican in Novemeber. What were they thinking??? Perhaps they are not thinking at all. I'll not give them a penny. Why should I when my vote does not count. I think the Florida and Michigan democrats should come together and boycott the DNC by not contribute anything. That should teach them a lesson not to mess with people right...so what if the state decided to move the election day...

Andrez Lopez wrote:

We can't have a Commander-in-Chief who cries when things are not going her way. This crying baby will be defeated by McCain on the first round. She has nothing to offer but the same old story of the Clintons. She is running for the sole purpose of satisfying her ego, her personal ugly ambition and greed. She wants to be president because she thinks it is now her turn. She only wishes to finish up creating the Clinton dynasty in politics. She is not for anyone but herself. She fakes. She speaks with no sincerity. She lies when she says that the country needs someone like her.
The people had spoken. Her desperation is turning into rudeness. She is losing her temper. It is predicted that she will lose both Texas and Ohio. She should pack-up and go home on March 5.
Obama will defeat McCain and become the first Afro-American President in history.

First Of All She Did Not Cry Period,Evidently You Must Think Everyone Missed What You Chose Not To Quote,Show Me One Tear That She Shed When Making Her Statement,And Stop Using A Hispanic Name To Make It Look Like Hispanics Are Against Senator Clinton Because Their Not Get Used To It,And It Is Her Turned It's Just Like People Like You Would Rather Vote For Someone Who Has Done Absolutely Nothing For Anyone Who Has Voted For Him To This Point,Everywhere He Goes He Tries To Promise The Voters This,That,& The Other Thing.We All Know How Predictions Go Especially Since The Polls Want It To Appear That,That Idiot Is Ahead When That's Not The Case,And Your Mr Obama Is No Better Than Any Other Politician He Lies,He Steals,He Deceives,He Flip Flops,He Talks From A Teleprompter,He' A LIAR,He's,He's A LIAR,He's A LIAR,He'a A LIAR,And I Don't Trust Anyone Who Had Any Affiliations With The Muslims Way Of Life,Which Every Time It Come's Into Question He Tries To Explain It Away Like The Hypocrit He Is And Has Been From Day One.If For Some Reason That Moron Happen's To Win The Demo Nomination,I Think He'll Need Senator Clinton's Supporters To Win The General Election's Which He Will Not Get.

Well said. We haven't donated a penny to the Dems, but we gave $100 to Hillary so far ($50 twice). This is the first time ever that I gave money to a political campaign. Obama's speeches may be inspirational, but I call believing in someone so much that we would give her $100 of our hard earned money real inspiration.

Strip Delegates wrote:

I just receive a survey from the DNC today. One of the question ask me if I feel the Republican will try to disenfranchise the democratic vote? Who the heck are they kidding when in fact, they have decided to strip Florida and Michigan delegates??? Now they ask for my contribution to defeat the Republican in Novemeber. What were they thinking??? Perhaps they are not thinking at all. I'll not give them a penny. Why should I when my vote does not count. I think the Florida and Michigan democrats should come together and boycott the DNC by not contribute anything. That should teach them a lesson not to mess with people right...so what if the state decided to move the election day...

Hillary is not only brilliant and a self-motivated hard worker, she is an ACTUAL agent of change to whom Senator Obama cannot hold a candle.

Hillary goes to work when it's time to work; Obama takes a walk or votes "present."

I want a President who digs right in to America's tough problems home and abroad. Hillary is ready, as she says, on Day One.

Hillary not only speaks for me, but I trust her to LEAD for me, too. She's an incredible American and we citizens should be swelling with pride over the idea of her representing us throughout the world -- not taking potshots at every opportunity.

Andrez Lopez wrote:

We can't have a Commander-in-Chief who cries when things are not going her way. This crying baby will be defeated by McCain on the first round. She has nothing to offer but the same old story of the Clintons. She is running for the sole purpose of satisfying her ego, her personal ugly ambition and greed. She wants to be president because she thinks it is now her turn. She only wishes to finish up creating the Clinton dynasty in politics. She is not for anyone but herself. She fakes. She speaks with no sincerity. She lies when she says that the country needs someone like her.
The people had spoken. Her desperation is turning into rudeness. She is losing her temper. It is predicted that she will lose both Texas and Ohio. She should pack-up and go home on March 5.
Obama will defeat McCain and become the first Afro-American President in history.

So, based on your post, you're voting for Obama because:

1. He's not Hillary
2. He can beat McCain

Well, now you've totally convinced me to vote for Obama.

Real Democrat wrote:

Why are you regressing back to your girl-hating prepubescent days, mister? Don't you know how stupid you sound? You silly man :) Here are a few of the many male politicians that have cried...
links on political crying:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Vote2008/story...
picture of Bush #2 and Bill Clinton crying:
http://dailywhackjob.com/index.php/2008/01/09...
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On the crying bit, I think it is SEXIST, the way Hillary has been treated.

I'm not a Hillary supporter (or Obama for that matter) as I disagree with her politics and vision of government, but she has been treated very unfairly by the media and others who don't support her.

And what impresses me is that she is STILL standing.

I think tenacity is a positive trait in a Presidential candidate.

Now that was truly inspiring...and much more than just another empty opinion.

ohiovoter wrote:

Hillary is not only brilliant and a self-motivated hard worker, she is an ACTUAL agent of change to whom Senator Obama cannot hold a candle.
Hillary goes to work when it's time to work; Obama takes a walk or votes "present."
I want a President who digs right in to America's tough problems home and abroad. Hillary is ready, as she says, on Day One.
Hillary not only speaks for me, but I trust her to LEAD for me, too. She's an incredible American and we citizens should be swelling with pride over the idea of her representing us throughout the world -- not taking potshots at every opportunity.

AGING HIPPY-YOUR POST # 329
YOU REFER TO:

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athy wrote:
It matters very much...I watched the debate too and I didn't catch this point until bloggers on these sites posted their remarks. Then, I researched to confirm the facts. NO ONE IN THE US MEDIA CAUGHT THIS-OR PERHAPS THEY DID AND CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ABOUT IT...I was VERY disappointed with response Senator Barack Obama gave when asked what was his biggest mistake while in office. He was being VERY disengenious and/or lying.He said his biggest mistake was voting with a UNANIMOUS Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri was the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
Yes Sen. Obama-was technically correct-the Senate vote was unanimous BECAUSE ONLY THREE SENATORS WERE THERE TO VOTE (Bill Frist (R-TN), Rick Santorum (R-PA), and Mel Martinez (R-FL).The remaining 97 Senators were not present. SEN OBAMA - AND THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS APPROVED THIS-WHILE THE REST OF THE SENATE (97 US SENATORS)WERE OUT OF TOWN??? HE WAS OK WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS??? As a US citizen, I am very uncomfortable with this...
How many times has he ridiculed Sen. Clinton about 'doing things behind closed doors?
IS THIS THE WAY IT WILL BE IF HE WINS NOMINATION AND BECOMES PRESIDENT???WILL HE CONTINUE TO CLOAK HIS ANSWERS LIKE THIS AND APPROVE LEGISLATION IN A SIMILIAR MANNER-WHILE IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS AND ELECTED US OFFICIALS ARE OUT OF TOWN???-IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED.HE REPRESENTS THE "SAME OLD SAME OLD". So much for CHANGE IN GOV'T...
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You(Aging Hippy) wrote:
It was a unanimous "voice vote" which is represented by the three actual votes. This allows the other 97 Senators to not have to be there. Look it up. It's common practice AND perfectly legal. Senator Obama is telling the truth. He did participate in the voice vote and stated in the debate he wished he has questioned it at the time, from the Senate floor. I have corrected you four times now so what's with you ducking that? Who's the disingenuous one here??
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MY RESPONSE:
The law was a violation of the separation of powers. Many historians and constitutional lawyers argued that Congress had exceeded its powers by substituting its judgment for that of the courts and directing the courts on how to proceed.
On March 2005, Judge Stanley Francis Birch addressed this point. In March 2005 he agreed with the above point."THE ACT INVADES THE PROVINCE OF THE JUDICIARY AND V I O L A T E S
T H E SEPERATION OF POWERS PRINCIPLE.

We are told (and the media perpetuates what we have been told without investigating validity of this explanation) that the bill passed unanimously (with 97 senators calling in their votes?????) and no formal record of the vote was made.
So I guess we will just have to believe whatever anyone tells us about what occurred.
Are you ok with the fact that we have no formal record of this vote? Go back and ask anyone what happened that day-one person can lie, and the other person can swear to the lie.WHY DID THEY WANT NO FORMAL RECORD OF THIS VOTE???I'M USING COMMON SENSE HERE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
We were told it was 'A VOICE VOTE'.
If I were Sen. Obama, with all my education and legal training and my obligation to the citizens and our laws...I DEFINETELY would have abstained from voting on something like this without having the opportunity to discuss issue with my fellow elected officials ...He has legal training-he taught-he should have known better.
VERY BAD JUDGEMENT CALL ON HIS PART- OR DID HE SUCCUMB TO POLITICAL PRESSURE OF THREE US SENATORS?
This still is the United States of AMerica, isn't it... We are a country of constitutional laws and right...not of the whims and fancies of those in power.
Thank you for not giving up and continuing to follow up with me on this issue...