Is Cyber Speech Really Free?

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A Mustang Guy wrote:

Hey boss, I work for you from 8 to 5. You pay me to do a service during these hours. And when I leave your office, MY TIME IS MY OWN AND I'LL DO AS I PLEASE. I DO NOT WORK FOR YOU AFTER 5, I DO NOT REPRESENT YOUR COMPANY EITHER. I'M ON MY TIME NOW. MINE!!!! You wan't to pay me over a 24 hour period, then I'll consider your BS. I have a real problem with companies that think they own you and can tell you what you can and cannot do on Your Own Time!!!!

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Foxylady wrote:

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I know a young girl that got fired from her job working with the elderly for what she said on her Facebook. She said she was getting tired of the patients hitting her and that some of the RN's were lazy. They actually told her she was being fired for what she said on Facebook.

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cagefreeeggs wrote:

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what she did was a HIPAA violation. her employer is compelled to fire her under federal law, or face fines up to $250K per "incident". Expressing personal information about your job, your coworkers, particularly in a medical setting is just stupid on her part. Then talking about patients in a derogatory manner is complete employment suicide. If she needs to "vent" about work, she should get a diary....where no one reads it except her....
unless she has a snoopy friend or mother, it harms no one....
what she did was malign/libel her employer and the other co-workers. Talking about patients is a complete breach of confidentiality....NOTHING is to be spoken about a patient, their family, etc.
she got what she deserved. lesson learned...
keep your mouht shut when it comes to patients and families and other co workers....duh!
think it through...
if it had been your grandmother whom this person was jabbering about in a derogatory way on facebook for all to read, would you be okay with that?
maybe your grandma has alzheimer's, and doesn't know she's slugging her care givers....how would you feel knowing that she was talking about a family member this way? or, what if one of the RN's was your sister or brother, and she declared they were lazy?
What if many other people in your circle/town know where she works and knows your sister works there....are they going to draw a conclusion about your sister from her postings?
what if your sister decides to apply for a job somewhere else, and is denied, because this "friend" instigated a reputation about your sister via her facebook account...
NOW DO YOU GET HOW GOSSIP IS SO HURTFUL???

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Freespirit8 wrote:

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Why do you feel the need to be so unpleasant to Foxy? She was commenting on-topic, gave an example of an incident she knew about. She is not party to the incident, she did not gossip or post anything on Facebook relating to this issue. Your comments would be welcomed as interesting and helpful if you could control your malicious attitude.
And no, I do not know Foxylady away from Topix, but feel it is my responsibility to comment when I see you abusing her, Orphanannie.

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Freespirit8 wrote:

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Why do you feel the need to be so unpleasant to Foxy? She was commenting on-topic, gave an example of an incident she knew about. She is not party to the incident, she did not gossip or post anything on Facebook relating to this issue. Your comments would be welcomed as interesting and helpful if you could control your malicious attitude.
And no, I do not know Foxylady away from Topix, but feel it is my responsibility to comment when I see you abusing her, Orphanannie.

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cagefreeeggs wrote:

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and one more thing, free...
maybe you should check those "feelings" of responsibility...
there was nothing abusive at all in that post...and i challenge you to show me where....
i never once pointed a finger at foxy...and if you can READ, the post clearly says HER, as in HER friend...not HER as in FOXY...
you're just post stirring as usual,bitch.

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Freespirit8 wrote:

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Well, there you go....you were doing great, until your last line. Sheesh, what is it with you? I always said, you are a very intelligent person, and you know we agree on many things. But on this, we disagree.
I do have an opinion to add to the conversation....but every time I type it out, I delete it. Same goes for the immigration forum. I dunno, lately, I just don't feel like my old self, guess I'd rather read than post.

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cagefreeeggs wrote:

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someday you may learn that you get what you give. you engaged me, remember? you attacked me with "why are you always so mean to foxy bullshit" and how it's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to do something about it...
well, honey, if you're going to come at me with your personal daggers out and set in attack mode, take your lumps...
there was nothing in my post attacking foxy at all, and you decided to take it to a personal level and hammer me with it...
it's on you. if you don't like being a bitch, then stop being one.

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Freespirit8 wrote:

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I engaged you, I didn't attack you. Is it impossible for you to discuss without attacking? That was my point! No one is hammering you....really, try to take a more positive outlook, not everyone is out to get you.

cagefreeeggs wrote:

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what she did was a HIPAA violation. her employer is compelled to fire her under federal law, or face fines up to $250K per "incident". Expressing personal information about your job, your coworkers, particularly in a medical setting is just stupid on her part. Then talking about patients in a derogatory manner is complete employment suicide. If she needs to "vent" about work, she should get a diary....where no one reads it except her....
unless she has a snoopy friend or mother, it harms no one....
what she did was malign/libel her employer and the other co-workers. Talking about patients is a complete breach of confidentiality....NOTHING is to be spoken about a patient, their family, etc.
she got what she deserved. lesson learned...
keep your mouht shut when it comes to patients and families and other co workers....duh!
think it through...
if it had been your grandmother whom this person was jabbering about in a derogatory way on facebook for all to read, would you be okay with that?
maybe your grandma has alzheimer's, and doesn't know she's slugging her care givers....how would you feel knowing that she was talking about a family member this way? or, what if one of the RN's was your sister or brother, and she declared they were lazy?
What if many other people in your circle/town know where she works and knows your sister works there....are they going to draw a conclusion about your sister from her postings?
what if your sister decides to apply for a job somewhere else, and is denied, because this "friend" instigated a reputation about your sister via her facebook account...
NOW DO YOU GET HOW GOSSIP IS SO HURTFUL???

Freespirit8 wrote:

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Why do you feel the need to be so unpleasant to Foxy? She was commenting on-topic, gave an example of an incident she knew about. She is not party to the incident, she did not gossip or post anything on Facebook relating to this issue. Your comments would be welcomed as interesting and helpful if you could control your malicious attitude.
And no, I do not know Foxylady away from Topix, but feel it is my responsibility to comment when I see you abusing her, Orphanannie.

cagefreeeggs wrote:

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well, free...where was i unpleasant? i am merely stating reality of why her "friend" was fired... i didn't say it was her, my last line was in reference to gossip in general...as in , "now do you see how gossip is so hurtful...etc."
seems to me you are taking it to a personal level, when there was no personal level given...
but if you want to take it personal, I'd be happy to oblige you...
what exactly are you adding to the conversation here, hmmmm?

Foxylady wrote:

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FYI, my friend said nothing derogatory about the patients or the nurses. She was being hit by some of the patients and a nurse or two were lazy. She didn't name names, so just exactly WHO was being hurt by her comments? She gave NO "personal information" about anyone. She did NOTHING wrong. Do you really expect anyone to believe that professional caregivers don't bitch about the rigors of their job?