Since: Feb 08
Eugene, OR
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I AM wrote: wow you people in pueblo sure do think you really knew sebastian. I for one knew more than any can, about him, I do pray every day for him and the ones that think they knew him. I haved shared more times then not in sebastians ups & downs he knew where to go for this comfort he needed, ALL OF HIS LIFE!!! I am here now and then. LOVE YOU SEBASTIAN, all the way. I AM Hello "I AM", How's it going? What happened to all that paperwork u had laid out on your desk ready to send, I checked and never recieved anything, Did you ever try?(Just curious) Thankyou
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keyser
Spokane, WA
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I AM wrote: wow you people in pueblo sure do think you really knew sebastian. I for one knew more than any can, about him, I do pray every day for him and the ones that think they knew him. I haved shared more times then not in sebastians ups & downs he knew where to go for this comfort he needed, ALL OF HIS LIFE!!! I am here now and then. LOVE YOU SEBASTIAN, all the way. I AM Then why didn't he call YOU in his final hours instead of pleading to speak with his grandmother?
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Since: Feb 08
Eugene, OR
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I don't understand why there are issues about who knew Sebastian the most or best?? Just from reading here it looks like he had allot of people that realy cared for him.
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keyser
Spokane, WA
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Mysterywriter86 wrote: I don't understand why there are issues about who knew Sebastian the most or best?? Just from reading here it looks like he had allot of people that realy cared for him. Amen. I simply did not care for their comments.
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a colorado friend
Pueblo, CO
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i've read most of these postings and would like to say sebastian was a good man that had a bad habit. not just there but here in colorado too. he spent a lot of time with us and i know this as a fact. we tried to help him the truth is he didn't want it. he was family and we cared about him as well. he is missed but please stop trying to make it outlike this happened because he went to be with his wife. this happened because a terrible drug got the best of a good man. the problem wasn't where he was but what he was doing. truth told he burned people here too. but i want to clarify just because he made mistakes and did bad things does m=not change that he was a good person. but he was not innocnt. he didn't deserve what happened under any circumstances. i just think people shoukd have paid more attention to hte signs and got him the help he needed instead of turning thiers eyes the other way in denile, then he might still be here
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Unknown
Spokane, WA
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To a Colorado Friend: Unfortunately the truly wonderful people I know that have found this "wonderful" drug have turned into individuals I did not even know and would never associate with. Not saying it is all the drug's fault as the individuals need to be accountable to their actions always but I have never seen a drug change an individual so dramatically! Eliminate the drug in this entire situation and everyone would have their loved one back!
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Mystery86
Eugene, OR
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I totally agree!!!!This particular drug Meth does terrible changes, it does different things to everyone, not everyone reacts the same,but the more they do the worse the reaction is. Along with Sebastian, the other guys involved were in the same level of addiction obviously, everyone involved were not originally bad people, the drug use METH did this to all of these guys/girls!! After everything I've read, I do believe if METH wasn't in the picture.....Sebastian would be alive and 5 guys wouldn't be in prison. That's a FACT!
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ginger
Pueblo, CO
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Mystery86 wrote: I totally agree!!!!This particular drug Meth does terrible changes, it does different things to everyone, not everyone reacts the same,but the more they do the worse the reaction is. Along with Sebastian, the other guys involved were in the same level of addiction obviously, everyone involved were not originally bad people, the drug use METH did this to all of these guys/girls!! After everything I've read, I do believe if METH wasn't in the picture.....Sebastian would be alive and 5 guys wouldn't be in prison. That's a FACT! Hello Mystery86 It has been a while that I have heard from you. You are so right about what you say. If these drugs were not involved my baby would still be here.The more that time goes on I am seeing more clearly now about this whole situation and what happened to my baby.The hurt will never go away we will have him in our hearts forever. This person who said that people new about Sebastians drug problem should have said something to me, that is if they even knew me. If anything, I would have tried to help him.Nothing can bring him back but I do have other granachildren and believe me I have done alot of research on these drugs and I am fully aware of all the signs now. And if anyone of my babies are into this I will step in. Please lets keep in touch ok.
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Since: Feb 08
Eugene, OR
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Good to hear from you Ginger! I'm glad you researched the drug, the problem thru my life experiences with people dear to me is that once they've tried it they either are addicted immediately or not, and they try to hide their use, avoid people they normally wouldn't...Worst of all it messes with their Head(MIND CONTOL), they cant control allot and eventually after lots of use they are a mess(mentally-physically-spiri tually) a typical symptom is Paranoid(everyone's out to get them).the very SAD part of this drug and other drugs is: We are totally helpless(as mothers fathers sisters etc ) The individual that is on the Meth, HAS to want to help themselves!! The more I tried-begged/cried/pleaded etc. etc. in my life with friends-family-boyfriends(2) The more I got mad and confused/hurt and lost all of them out of my life just because I can't help the ones that aren't ready for help! Trust me...I've tried and lost!! So the bottom line is PREVENTION!! I've educated my kids(probably too much) after the crime/murder of Sebastian I feel the more I do the more chances I have when they get out in this world--so I've been very blunt and honest with them and never sugarcoated any questions/information they've asked. Kids nowadays have a real hard time out there if they are not fully aware of how there are cruel-scheming-fake-druggies-v arious types of people, that don't have to look the part! They could look totally normal(suit&tie/dressed up clean/ and they could shoot u for your purse or wallet......things like that are a start on prevention talks I have w/my kids. One other thing I want them to know is that when a person is making an effort to stay off the meth, be supportive, but don't get played/used! I've learned that a addict can stop using Meth for long period's of time(months/years)and then go straight back in one day!! I also know that Meth can cause long term damage,I'm not exactly sure all the damage it may do, but a old friend of mine has to take mental medication for LIFE for voices she hears in her head, which weren't there until years of Meth abuse(she's been Clean for over 5 years now!) So the bottom line is Ginger even if you did know about his addiction, you couldn't make miracles happen--the METH is EVERYWHERE and Rehabs only work for those who really truly want help, sometimes the meth has already done enough brain damage that they themselves done realize how bad they look or act.....its a horrible reality and like I said the only way I found to deal with this is to Educate my kids-their friends etc etc.... I hope everyday gets better for you and I pray for You and your Family!! Take Care Ginger--really good to hear from u!
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im AT
Pueblo, CO
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to ginger...hi...Sebastian was my first love...we went to school together and were in a relationship for a couple of years...we even got eachothers initials tattooed on our hands (silly, silly kids)...i dont remember if you and i ever met but it was so long ago...anyway...i just wanted to say that when i heard of his tragic death, i could not believe it...i feel bad because i didnt go to his service (even though i was told by one of his cousins that his dad asked me to be there)i couldnt...i just dont handle things like that very well...idk...but i think about him alot(i have no choice, he is branded on my hand, lol)...so, i dont know what kind of a person he grew up to be...but i will always have the memories of him when we were younger...and despite what ppl say...im sure he was still the same guy... he was always the center of attention(and a pain in ur neck, lol)...everyone wanted to be around him...he was always crackin jokes and pickin on me, but he was also very loving and thoughtful...i remember he would always write me little rhymes and rap to me...and he always had something clever to say about something :)(with his cute lil dimples)...him and i went through alot in the little time that i knew him... and we had alot of fun together(got into alot of trouble too, lol) but i will never forget him! so i just wanted to say to you and all his family and friends...especially his children that i am very sorry and i cant imagine what you all have gone through and are still going through...i hope all is well and you all will be in my thoughts and prayers always...God Bless! Rest In Peace Sabby J
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ginger
Pueblo, CO
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im AT wrote: to ginger...hi...Sebastian was my first love...we went to school together and were in a relationship for a couple of years...we even got eachothers initials tattooed on our hands (silly, silly kids)...i dont remember if you and i ever met but it was so long ago...anyway...i just wanted to say that when i heard of his tragic death, i could not believe it...i feel bad because i didnt go to his service (even though i was told by one of his cousins that his dad asked me to be there)i couldnt...i just dont handle things like that very well...idk...but i think about him alot(i have no choice, he is branded on my hand, lol)...so, i dont know what kind of a person he grew up to be...but i will always have the memories of him when we were younger...and despite what ppl say...im sure he was still the same guy... he was always the center of attention(and a pain in ur neck, lol)...everyone wanted to be around him...he was always crackin jokes and pickin on me, but he was also very loving and thoughtful...i remember he would always write me little rhymes and rap to me...and he always had something clever to say about something :)(with his cute lil dimples)...him and i went through alot in the little time that i knew him... and we had alot of fun together(got into alot of trouble too, lol) but i will never forget him! so i just wanted to say to you and all his family and friends...especially his children that i am very sorry and i cant imagine what you all have gone through and are still going through...i hope all is well and you all will be in my thoughts and prayers always...God Bless! Rest In Peace Sabby J this is for imAT, Thank you so much for your kind words about my baby. He was a very special person and oh yes he loved to make jokes and mess around like only he could. He did have a beautiful smile when he would smile his pretty eyes would light up. HE loved it when his mother would sing a song to him called Betty Davis Eyes, he would look at her with so much love. we miss him so much the pain of losing him has been so hard,I don't know if I have ever met you but you sound like a vry nice girl. Again I thank you. Sebastian will forever be in our hearts if only he were here. But he is reunited in heaven with his Mother and his twin brother and I know they are very happy.As for his children when they get older they will know from us Sebastian family what a fine man their Father was and how much he loved them Itis good that you will forver have these memories of him, God Bless You!!
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ITTMick
Reedley, CA
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To Ginger, I stumbled upon this while doing crime research and have spent the last 4 hours reading everything I can get on Sebastian's murder. I really feel for you and the rest of your family. While I have no personal stake in this I felt compelled to shoot a quick note. I hope Sebastian is finally at rest. God bless you and your family!
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ginger
Pueblo, CO
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ITTMick wrote: To Ginger, I stumbled upon this while doing crime research and have spent the last 4 hours reading everything I can get on Sebastian's murder. I really feel for you and the rest of your family. While I have no personal stake in this I felt compelled to shoot a quick note. I hope Sebastian is finally at rest. God bless you and your family! I know my baby is at peace in heaven with his Mother and Brother.It is still very hard for me,everytime I see a fifth wheel. I can't help but imagine the torture that my baby endured in that trailer because of what was said at the trial before he was killed. This will forever haunt me till the day I die. I thank you so much for your kindness.
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ITTMick
United States
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ginger wrote: <quoted text> I know my baby is at peace in heaven with his Mother and Brother.It is still very hard for me,everytime I see a fifth wheel. I can't help but imagine the torture that my baby endured in that trailer because of what was said at the trial before he was killed. This will forever haunt me till the day I die. I thank you so much for your kindness. You are very welcome!
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ginger
Pueblo, CO
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This Sunday October 25th will be Sebastian's birthday, he would have been 29 yrs. old and we his family are going to celebrate his life in heaven with his Mother and brother. this is for Lisa his wife I hope you read this and please don't ever let his children forget him or us. I pray that some day you will change your mind about letting us see my babies.
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ginger
Pueblo, CO
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This is for Mysterywriter, I have not heard from you lately but ai just want to wish you and yours a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year God Bless.
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MysteryWriter86
Eugene, OR
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Thankyou Ginger, and I also wish you and your family Happy Holidays!!! I'm not really into the holidays (I personally get depressed)
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