Man stabbed dies.

Person wrote:

Anon is talking about illegal immigration. Which is very different.

I had no idea Anon hired a spokes"bitch". Read what I quoted and you'll see Anon. wrote "Immigration".

Make your points clear Anon. If your spokes"bitch" is right, then I agree with you. Although you can make the argument that most of our ancestors were illegals.

Neefer wrote:

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Was it established somewhere that this man was an illegal alien? From Mexico? Or is it that Mexicans should not be allowed to come to the US, legally or illegally?

Nah, these Ayyholes are making ASSumptions. There are no confirmed reports, no police information...just ASSumptions based on the neighborhood this happened at.(although they may be correct, but a stable person waits for the facts before making judgments)

MBP I am no one's "spokes"bitch" I have my own opinions. My opinion is this....Anyone can immigrate here as long as they go through the proper channels. Becoming a citizen or being a legal resident is a lot of hard work, costs a lot of money and is a general pain. But if you decide to live here you need to do it.
I never said that the man who was murdered was illegal. Either way it is extremely sad for his family and friends.
MBP the next time you feel like name calling why don't you go to the playground where you belong.

Waahhh...he called me a name...waaahhh. There's nothing wrong with being someone's spokes"bitch". So just embrace your new role since you seem to know what's on Anon's mind even though he failed to express it.

Besides, I happen to agree with you. You can be my spokes"bitch"

MBP wrote:

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hey Genius, unless you're a native american, your ancestors were immigrants too stupid!

Not that old tired argument again, please. Even the Indians came from somewhere else, they didn't just spring up in North America. Humans didn't even originate on this continent, or so goes the current theory. And they didn't arise in South America either. Besides, the Indians live in a sovereign nation (several hundred of them, actually) and they are not subject to our law or problems.(they get federal funds but pay no federal taxes, nice gig, eh?)

Can you imagine what might happen if a bunch of illegals attempted to squat on tribal lands? They deal very harshly with simple trespassing, let alone theft or fraud.

MBP wrote:

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I had no idea Anon hired a spokes"bitch". Read what I quoted and you'll see Anon. wrote "Immigration".
Make your points clear Anon. If your spokes"bitch" is right, then I agree with you. Although you can make the argument that most of our ancestors were illegals.

Illegal doesn't mean much in the absence of a sovereign nation which the Indians never had - a bunch of warring tribes none of which had established dominance or control over the land does not constitute a sovereign nation. Also, the Indians had a completely different concept of land "ownership". I doubt most of them felt you could own the earth any more than you could own the sky or the sea.

I'll be happy to clear up the controversy; I support a moratorium on immigration. There are very few justifiable excuses for immigration, and almost all of them would vanish after a moratorium has been in place sufficiently long to preclude "chain migration" and "Family re-unification" exceptions.

Tell them to go to San Francisco, there safe haven. BS!!! I can't believe people are ok with this! There are too many illegals driving uninsured, using our hospitals at our expense and basically ruining our state!!!

I don't know if this guy or the people who killed him are illegal, but that neighborhood is know for having illegal people all in one house.

Anon wrote:

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Can you imagine what might happen if a bunch of illegals attempted to squat on tribal lands? They deal very harshly with simple trespassing, let alone theft or fraud.

Ask a Sooner what happens.

i talked to officer graycar and he told me about the boys being robbed and beaten and ending up in the hosipital . call the police im sure they will share the news with you

Name: I was only introduced to him by his nickname. You know, it's really sad that some people react the way they do here when real people are involved. It's sick to think that someone really thinks it's ok to murder someone at all! The guy who probably murdered this man was probably LEGAL! Does that make it right? Man, if you go to another country..not just Mexico...France, Germany, Africa, Australia, Brazil wherever, and someone murders your best friend, son, whatever...and everyone in the country said "did they have papers to be here? Why were they even here! Get out of our country!" There would be an uproar! It's really sad that someone would care when they were killed so maliciously...citizen or not. It's horrible.

I think you're confusing being dismissive of a murder with widespread resentment of the fact that illegals bring these things with them into our communities. Most street gangs in CA are illegals or have illegal members, that is one characteristic of the membership of hispanic gangs in this state.

I mean, maybe the vic wasn't mixed up in gang activity, but maybe he was.

Well it's like this. a mexican died in ivermore and it is a hick town, anything else new?

Sin it Call wrote:

Well it's like this. a mexican died in ivermore and it is a hick town, anything else new?

Are you saying no one really cares if a Mexican is murdered? I don't think that is true. its just that the bleeding heart media does not report on this, so the general public don't know that they should be upset. if the public is not upset the lpd will continue to do what they know best enforcing the Eighteenth Amendment. so once again this is the liberal medias fault. when people who live in a community stop caring when a man is murdered you end up living in a place like Oakland.

Wow man, you are seriously mistaken Anon and pulling information outta your ARSE by saying most of the gangs in CA are full of illegals! Do you even KNOW what you are saying? You're digging yourself a pretty big hole dude and pretty soon it's gonna just cave right in on you...keep on spewing your idiocies 'cause it's really kinda funny!

The news rarely reports anything about Livermore. So I don't think it has anything to do with the victim being hispanic. I do find it sketchy that the Livermore police website says it is asking the public for help but they have not released his name, photo or anything. As usual more shady crapola happening without any information.

Everyone calls this a hick town but I don't believe it is.

The only thing established on this forum is:

1. Guy got stabbbed and died.
2. No reports on names or leads or real details.
3. Happened in an area full of Mexicans.
4. Legal immigration is legal.
5. Illegal immigrants are criminals.
6. Criminals should be punished.
7. Gangs are sissies.

Other than that, nothing has been extablished. As usual, this is all rumors and "I know a dude who knew the guy" bullshit.

If he was here lagally and was a completely helpless and random victim, then it is unfortunate. If the victim was here illegally, then see above,#5 and 6, and who cares.

AnonAss wrote:

Wow man, you are seriously mistaken Anon and pulling information outta your ARSE by saying most of the gangs in CA are full of illegals! Do you even KNOW what you are saying? You're digging yourself a pretty big hole dude and pretty soon it's gonna just cave right in on you...keep on spewing your idiocies 'cause it's really kinda funny!

Oh, out of my arse, eh? See some well known data below.

&#65533; In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

&#65533; A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the bloody 18th Street Gang in California is illegal (estimated membership: 20,000); police officers say the proportion is undoubtedly much greater. The gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complicated drug distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and is responsible for an assault or robbery every day in Los Angeles County. The gang has dramatically expanded its numbers over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, a vast proportion
illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

&#65533; The leadership of the Columbia Li&#65533;l Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.&#65533;s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former Assistant U.S. Attorney Luis Li. Frank "Pancho Villa" Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.

Livermore Person wrote:

The only thing established on this forum is:
1. Guy got stabbbed and died.
2. No reports on names or leads or real details.
3. Happened in an area full of Mexicans.
4. Legal immigration is legal.
5. Illegal immigrants are criminals.
6. Criminals should be punished.
7. Gangs are sissies.
Other than that, nothing has been extablished. As usual, this is all rumors and "I know a dude who knew the guy" bullshit.
If he was here lagally and was a completely helpless and random victim, then it is unfortunate. If the victim was here illegally, then see above,#5 and 6, and who cares.

you forgot that you love to fcuck goats.