Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Jonah1 wrote:

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Seriously!!! They so seem to love wading in it though, don't they?!!

GREAT NEWS!!!! OBAMA STOPS LYING AND ADMITS THAT HE SUPPORTS SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

That is great news, because Obama just lost the Black, Hispanic, conservative, religious, and even Biden support base.

gross

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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1. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."
2. That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

Boy, you sure did get the big end of the stupid stick, didn't you lambchop!!!! The two don't contradict each other. Nature IS biology, genetic and hormones. Both statements state that these are likely factors. Dolt.

Jonah1 wrote:

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F*ck your Christ. He's irrelevant. Feel free to try again.
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You did not post the APA revision, you posted a nut jobs interpretation of it. Two totally different things.
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Ex-gays! LOL!!!!!! That's funny!! You do remember don't you, that the APA that you love to quote from, notes very specifically that there is no proof anywhere of any one converting their sexual orientation, right dear?!!!!! In fact, they also state that attempts to do such a thing is HARMFUL. Funny how you put so much emphasis on what they say, and yet ignore the parts you don't like!!
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientat...
Why don't you just write "IDIOT" across your forehead and call it a day!!

You are stuck on dumb, your apa link is a 2003 statement.

Here are the exact words from the APA, notice the quotation marks.

This is what the APA says, since you are trying to deflect from it. They have revised their position.

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

Actually, funny person, the APA has been friends to the gay community since 1973.

What they said then and what they said in 2003, has nothing to do with what they said recently.

Like you gays say, prior to 1980, homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder by the APA. You discount that, well now you get to discount their 2003 statement.

BY the way, I think it funny, because the APA is all that you have. I am waiting for you all to claim that the APA is a fundie gay bashing group.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>Stop whining and lying, we do not have Sharia law, no one is going to sew your butt closed.
This is what the APA says, since you are trying to deflect from it. They have revised their position.
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

I'm well aware of what the APA states. I'm also well aware that they have not "admitted there is no gay gene" as you stated.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."
I am sorry if you can not read.

I can read just fine. And unlike you, I can also comprehend.

Please do continue posting your "contrasting" statements!!! Get's funnier every time you do it!! LOL!!

Jonah1 wrote:

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Boy, you sure did get the big end of the stupid stick, didn't you lambchop!!!! The two don't contradict each other. Nature IS biology, genetic and hormones. Both statements state that these are likely factors. Dolt.

Wow, now we will have stupid school for the gay slow.

Let us read slowly.

1, There is no consensus among scientists

2. That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence

Please read slowly, no consensus among scientists......now read prior statement.....there is considerable recent evidence

Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>We are extremely happy.
We are used to gays not marrying and enjoy the North Carolina and APA decisions.
Now, you on he other hand have issues, which stem from your childhood and issues you can not face.

Oh look! Another fundie that thinks he has super powers of insight into other people's psyche!!!! You people are so funny with all your made up super powers!!!!

Jonah1 wrote:

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Completely made up statistic. And completely irrelevent even if it were true.
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One can marry one's first cousing in Tennessee, and apparantly the citizens are so stupid there, the state had to write a law prohibiting them from eating road kill. Were you hoping to make a point?
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You keep telling yourself that. It seems to give you some sort of comfort.

Yeah, and they have laws in 44 states saying that you can't marry same sex butt partners, so apparently American citizens are just so stupid and gays so smart. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Jews, women, men, your mom, dad etc. yes all 98-99% of us are stupid.

How stupid of us not to abort a gay child, when we detected that gay gene. Next time give us a signal, before you pop out.

Jonah1 wrote:

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Oh look! Another fundie that thinks he has super powers of insight into other people's psyche!!!! You people are so funny with all your made up super powers!!!!

What is funny is that you think that it requires super powers, when it is so evident in your entire behavior, pathology and dissonance. Take a clue from your pedophile friends, your behavior is revealing of deep childhood issues and abuse. Get therapy, if you can't afford it, then wait because soon it will be covered as a disability.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>APA = American Psychological Assn, which means that they deal with psychological issues of men and women, and one of them is the psycho-sexual disorder of same sex behaviors.

From the APA:
"Is homosexuality a mental disorder:
NO, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are NOT DISORDERS. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR ARE NORMAL ASPECTS OF HUMAN SEXUALITY. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to CONCLUDE THAT THESE ORIENTATIONS REPRESENT NORMAL FORMS OF HUMAN EXPERIENCE. LESBIAN, GAY, AND BISEXUAL RELATIONSHIP ARE NORMAL forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder."
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientat...

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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NO where in the APA statement do they ever use the terminologies gay or homosexual people.

The word gay appears 102 times in their statement concerning sexual orienation. Homosexual is used as well. So is bisexual and lesbian.
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientat...

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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Now, stand on one leg and repeat, "Kirk is way smarter than me", so when in doubt, repeat "Kirk is way smarter than me".

Kirk is an utter moron. Kirk is clueless dipshyt. Kirk is an idiot.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>The funny and irony is that where there is a pile of shit, there is always a closet and a gay. But, don't take more word, go look in your closet.

Was that supposed to be English? Sorry, I don't speak Trailer.

sociopathic Liberals wrote:

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Just another liberal lie!!!
In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.
According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did." Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops. When it came time to elect the "Exalted Cyclops", the top officer in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously.[9]
In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo:[
“ I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944,
In 1946 or 1947, Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating, "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."

You left off a bit of your wiki quote...

In 1997, Byrd told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also: "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena." In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision—a jejune and immature outlook—seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions." Byrd also said, in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

You can deny all you wish, but the southern democrats were quite conservative and defected to the republican party and shifted it to the more conservative entity it is today. Many were prompted to jump party with the shift towards civil rights for blacks. Both parties have evolved into groups that don't resemble what they once were. You're clinging to the name when the whole species changed. Shouting "liar" does absolutely nothing to bolster your stance. It simply makes you look like the fool that you are.

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Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>You are stuck on dumb, your apa link is a 2003 statement.

LOL!!!! My link is to THEIR site. Their CURRENT site. Moron.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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Here are the exact words from the APA, notice the quotation marks.
This is what the APA says, since you are trying to deflect from it. They have revised their position.
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

Yes moron, I know. That's word for word the same as the link I provided. Jeebus, you get stupider by the minute.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

It doesn't contrast at all. They simply replaced "genetic or inborn hormonal factors" with the word "nature".

But please, do continue promoting your "contrasting" statements!!!! Still makes my sides ache with laughter everytime!!!!! Your picture has now been added to the word "idiot" in the dictionary.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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Actually, funny person, the APA has been friends to the gay community since 1973.
What they said then and what they said in 2003, has nothing to do with what they said recently.

Actually its pretty much the same. Your lack of comprehension skills isn't my concern.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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Like you gays say, prior to 1980, homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder by the APA.

We gays don't say that.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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You discount that, well now you get to discount their 2003 statement.

Who's discounting their current statement? Oh, that's right, no one. Because their current statement says pretty much what everyone says. No one knows, but most suspect that nature (you know, genes and biology) plays a role.

You see Kirk dear, "we gays" aren't concerned about what the APA states as it relates to what causes our homosexuality. We don't care. We know we are gay, we accept that we are gay, and we know that we will always be gay. We spend as much time contemplating what made us gay as left handed people spend wondering what made them left handed. Basically we spend about NIL considering it. We all share similar experiences with it, and nothing the APA will ever state will alter our experience or our orientation.

Your believe that you have some sort of weapon against us using statements from the APA merely shows, yet again, what an idiot you are!!!

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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BY the way, I think it funny, because the APA is all that you have.

No, actually we have our shared experiences. WE are all the APA have when it comes to research in this area. You have it backwards, yet again dipshit.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

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I am waiting for you all to claim that the APA is a fundie gay bashing group.

Hey, here's a suggestion, why don't you hold your breath while you do that waiting.

LOL!!! Tool.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>Wow, now we will have stupid school for the gay slow.
Let us read slowly.
1, There is no consensus among scientists
2. That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence
Please read slowly, no consensus among scientists......now read prior statement.....there is considerable recent evidence

That stupid stick must be getting heavier. Either that or you hit yourself in the head with it.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, and they have laws in 44 states saying that you can't marry same sex butt partners, so apparently American citizens are just so stupid and gays so smart. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Jews, women, men, your mom, dad etc. yes all 98-99% of us are stupid.
How stupid of us not to abort a gay child, when we detected that gay gene. Next time give us a signal, before you pop out.

You are quite astounding! Each of your posts out stupids the previous one.

Kirk Cameron wrote:

BORING........MY WORK IS DONE FOR NOW.

I see. Topix is your job is it? LOL!!! Moron!!

RnL2008 wrote:

You OBVIOUSLY know nothing about President Obama's views.......especially when it comes to the right to marry for Same-Sex Couples......that's for starters.......secondly, the right to marry IS NOT an important reelection talking point.....at least not for me......what should be more important for many Americans is our economy, the housing market and ending wars that should have NEVER been started in the first place!!!

Obama will flip flop on same sex marriage, he was for it before he considered national office, then he was against it and now he's evolved into supporting it, again.

More often wrong than right. North Carolina proves same sex marriage loses at the polls.