Move afoot to change California's constitution

Please Change Proposition 218 so that General Tax which are the most like revenues to be misued require a 2/3 vote instead of 50% and also change it so that Special Tax which must be used only for specific purposes and are therefore less likely to be wasted only require a 50% vote instead of 2/3. This is the biggest flaw in Proposition 218 and one of the chief reasons for fiscal dysfuntionality at all levels of governance in this State.

Where do I vote to send all the illegal immigrants home?

cbgb wrote:

Where do I vote to send all the illegal immigrants home?

Join the border control.

Throw the liberal Democrats out. They have ruined this state.

No new taxes. No illegal aliens. No government perks.

Vito

ca. constitution to be scraped and replaced with the communist manifesto.

They are going about it all wrong. You need the legislature's approval first.

california is funnier than a fart in a diving suit. the queer population needs to pay their bills. quit sucking on republicans, just pay as you go. not like the bankrupting bush gang

I authored two Constitutional Initiatives and filed them on June 24th. The first (my proposed Article 36) grants the people of California the right to call a Constitutional Convention. The second (my proposed Article 37) calls the Convention and specifies the election of delegates, scope, and more. I proposed we open all existing 35 Articles so our elected delegates can draft a California Constitution for the 21st Century and beyond.

We are organizing California now - on line at http://CaliforniaActionNetwork.com

Our open Facebook Group is here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php...

If you want to help - please join us. We are normal Citizens and we are taking action.

I think that if we simply REMOVE arnold from office.... that will fix a lot of problems. I'm sure that many will agree that California needs to get off of the "movie star" stupidity that has totally overtaken this government and elect people that really have a place in office. I never voted and never supported anything that arnold stood for. It is time for California to WAKE UP. Everybody that voted for this incompetent person is to blame. Maybe next time people will research who they elect into office.

Paul Currier wrote:

I authored two Constitutional Initiatives and filed them on June 24th. The first (my proposed Article 36) grants the people of California the right to call a Constitutional Convention. The second (my proposed Article 37) calls the Convention and specifies the election of delegates, scope, and more. I proposed we open all existing 35 Articles so our elected delegates can draft a California Constitution for the 21st Century and beyond.
We are organizing California now - on line at http://CaliforniaActionNetwork.com
Our open Facebook Group is here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php...
If you want to help - please join us. We are normal Citizens and we are taking action.

Paul, where does your group stand on the issues CA faces? I could not find anything on your site which comments on this. Most people will not follow or support a group if this information is not forthcoming and clear.

Change the constitution? No way!! This is the only tool we regular folks have to keep the idiots in Sacramento in check. This will never happen.

Einzee wrote:

I think that if we simply REMOVE arnold from office.... that will fix a lot of problems.

Gray Davis was removed...no net change occured.

It's just more of the same...

It would only take one constitutional amendment to make things in California work about a 1000 times better:

It shall be a felony, punishable by up to ten years in prison, in California for any corporation or union to give any monies of any kind (*even campaign contributions which are the new euphemism for bribe) to any elected official. And, it shall be a felony, punishable by up to ten years in prison, for any elected official to take such monies from corporations and unions.

Also make this felony status applicable to any "non profit" front, like Arnold's dubious non-profit "edcuation fund", as these have become nothing but tax exempt money laundering operations to get around the existing bribery laws.

Then make it a felony to accept more than $500 from any individual donor for a campaign for public office.

Nothing in this will prevent corporations or unions from endorsing candidates, or from their legitimate first amendment right to petition government (lobby) in pursuit of their self interest. It will just make our now increasingly crooked politicians less likely to listen, since they won't actually get a cash payment for their vote.

This would end things like this weeks slimy Intuit shakedown, in which some legislator's attempted to hold the budget hostage at the last moment, for a sweetheart deal for that company?

The only possibility for honest and acceptable change is to forbit anyone that has ever held public office from working on the NEW CONSTITUTION.
To many politicians will see this as an opportunity to get something they want. The same for each and every special interest. It is presently bad, but could be worse. I think limiting the state legislature to a part time body with minimal pay and small budgets would go farther than any other change to keep government out of our lives. Bottom line that is what made the USA great, and every year government passes thousands of laws to restrict your freedom. So any change has to limit state government.

Einzee wrote:

I think that if we simply REMOVE arnold from office.... that will fix a lot of problems. I'm sure that many will agree that California needs to get off of the "movie star" stupidity that has totally overtaken this government and elect people that really have a place in office. I never voted and never supported anything that arnold stood for. It is time for California to WAKE UP. Everybody that voted for this incompetent person is to blame. Maybe next time people will research who they elect into office.

Yeah, that's it: blame the one guy who tried to break the public employee unions' stranglehold on the state several years before this inevitable current crisis- and was busted in the chops by a leftist electorate who likes their entitlements and California-style socialism. Thank you Hollywood, San Francisco, and Latinos. Sure, let's open up the entire constitution for an elitist makeover. What's that noise I hear? Oh, that's just the sound of more jobs leaving the state, and more poor uneducated people entering the state.

The 2/3 requirement as created voter affirmative action where losers save their self esteem by having the value of their votes doubles. Term limits have created armature hour. There is no reward for good governance and no penalties for bad. There's three strikes that has doubled California's prison population in eight years.

I wonder the cost to California from losing its image of the California Dream to being a chaotic dystopia?

This Currier group CAN sounds like a bunch of schill's fromm the website. There is no information at all on who they are, or who funds them. Are they conservative, liberal, La Rouche? You don't know because they provide no information and just want a "blank check" to rewrite the CA Constitution?

Always follow the money. Money is what most of our political corruption in California is about, and this looks like a "front group" which doesn't want to tell you much, like who funds them.

So check the bonafides of these groups before you sign the petition at the supermarket to allow these anonymous special interests to "buy" a new constitution, more to their liking.

Californians need to be vigilant a State Constitutional Convention, does not result in circumventing or burying Prop.13, the passed ballot measure that caps real estate taxes.

California's budge deficit and relentless history to overspend, is scaring away investors and potential employers from CA. Some employers and Investors believe CA is no longer safe to invest money. What investors do see, is a growing welfare state that will continually raise taxes. Until CA gets serious about enforcing budget restraints, many investors and potential employers will not consider California. It is foreseeable, that if a Health Insurance Bill is passed, unauthorized immigrants not covered by Health Insurance might burden CA taxpayer paid medical services.

As the Author - of the two Certified Initiatives that Call a California Constitutional Convention - with Elected Delegates, I get asked all the time about my position on Issues. Everyone has their ideas. Your welcome to read mine on my blog: http://InternetAlley.blogspot.com

The point is, that the issues are up to the Delegates. We have a State to re-frame. The Issues are not the debate. The need to keep on with the mess we have - or - reframe our State is the debate. If you or anyone else wants to continue with Politics as usual in California - do nothing! The Special Interests are plundering our State and setting up to Privatize our Commonwealth. Nothing will be left but debt when the privateers are done! I want our schools to be the top in the world. I want Oil to be levied for royalities like Texas and Alaska do (California is the only State in the Union that lets Oil Companies pump our natural resources for free). I want to look at all the Initiatives we passed and look at their unintended consequences. 25 to Life for Shoplifting seems out of order to me, but then hey! I am not in the Prison Guards Union (CCPOA). Term Limits were a stupid Idea - necessary to get rid of Willy Brown yes - long term? Stupid! I want 20 to 30 desalination plants that pump fresh water inland powered by solar electricity from our deserts, and electric cars as our State Standard. I want a lot. I am Californian. Aren't you?

Paul Currier wrote:

As the Author - of the two Certified Initiatives that Call a California Constitutional Convention - with Elected Delegates, I get asked all the time about my position on Issues. Everyone has their ideas. Your welcome to read mine on my blog: http://InternetAlley.blogspot.com
The point is, that the issues are up to the Delegates. We have a State to re-frame. The Issues are not the debate. The need to keep on with the mess we have - or - reframe our State is the debate. If you or anyone else wants to continue with Politics as usual in California - do nothing! The Special Interests are plundering our State and setting up to Privatize our Commonwealth. Nothing will be left but debt when the privateers are done! I want our schools to be the top in the world. I want Oil to be levied for royalities like Texas and Alaska do (California is the only State in the Union that lets Oil Companies pump our natural resources for free). I want to look at all the Initiatives we passed and look at their unintended consequences. 25 to Life for Shoplifting seems out of order to me, but then hey! I am not in the Prison Guards Union (CCPOA). Term Limits were a stupid Idea - necessary to get rid of Willy Brown yes - long term? Stupid! I want 20 to 30 desalination plants that pump fresh water inland powered by solar electricity from our deserts, and electric cars as our State Standard. I want a lot. I am Californian. Aren't you?

Maybe, Paul, you should then just move for San Francisco to secede from the state and form its own commonwealth. The Mayor thinks himself above the law of the state already, so it won't be hard for him to envision himself the "queen" of the new city-state. The vicar of San Fran. What you want is utopia, but like most city-folk your understanding of this state's economy ends at the city's edge, much like the audience beyond a dark curtain when the show is over.