California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

Yeah, get some German company to solve our economic problems with their technology to fill their own pockets selling solutions we could manufacture for ourselves.
Someone on this forum has already suggested that pot be regarded as the antidote to bad ideas.
You should be so lucky.

Got any spare stuff laying around?

Asian Guy wrote:

we should bring back the old volkswagen beetle and use lpg to fuel it.
cheap to build, cheap to run.
sell them for $2,000 dollars.
gets you from point a to point b.
logical course of action.

2g's for a new car?

mabey in bangladesh??

RiccardoFire wrote:

Driving 10,000 miles a year at 25 miles per gallon in a $15,000 gas vehicle requires 400 gallons of gas; at $4 per gallon, it's $1,600 per year or 16 cents per mile for gas.
The EPA rates the Volt for 375 combination miles with one full charge and one fill-up (9.3 gallons). A Volt recharge costs roughly $5 and requires 8 hours. A Volt's fill-up is $37.20 plus $5 for electricity or $42.50 to go 375 miles or 11 ¼ cents per mile. Compared to gas, you’d save $475 per year for 10,000 miles.
However, the Volt costs $40,000 plus $2,000 for a home charging station. With a 10-year electric car life, it's $2,500 more a year in purchase costs to save $475 a year in gas. At $4 gas, it takes 52 years of gas mileage savings to offset the Volt's additional $25,000 purchase price.
100-plus mpg Volt claims are misleading, too. They drive 35 miles on the available electric and then recharge. The method requires 10 recharges at $5 each, or $50 costing 13 1/3 cents per mile.
The Volt concept fails because cheaper 40-plus mpg Hybrid cars are already available, and you have to burn dirty fuels for the electricity.
The Volt does not save money.

I wont waste my time trying to conviince you of the coming revolution is transportation..

mabey you can go tell a volt owner what you think of their car....

if I had the $ id buy one.

at some point, there is going to EVERY kind of car on the road...

get used to it.

RiccardoFire wrote:

<quoted text>You forgot to mention what you figure a new car's gas mileage is. And how much that car costs. Stop making up stuff.

riccardo, regardless who is right??

in the long run??

Im right....

because oil is going to run out....

end of story.

garden sizer wrote:

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riccardo, regardless who is right??
in the long run??
Im right....
because oil is going to run out....
end of story.

you claim to grow weed indoors

how much energy is being wasted running your lights ?

weed is better grown outdoors

your carbon footprint is bigger than your mouth

NoBlamer 2012 wrote:

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you claim to grow weed indoors
how much energy is being wasted running your lights ?
weed is better grown outdoors
your carbon footprint is bigger than your mouth

hydro power for the whole county!!

there is a big lake, built in the early 60's, years before I was born.

why do you think im such a big proponent of alternative energy.

id hate for them to have to build any more of these big dams, but I guess were all hooked up to them here in the west....

either that or you get imported power from the NW(hydro) or east??

or nooookular power from california two remaining(dinosaur) plants.

remember enron???

lest hope that doesnt ever happen again.

garden sizer wrote:

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I wont waste my time trying to conviince you of the coming revolution is transportation..
mabey you can go tell a volt owner what you think of their car....
if I had the $ id buy one.
at some point, there is going to EVERY kind of car on the road...
get used to it.

I bet you are one of the idiots that love the idea of building a bullet train in California. lol...Exactly, if u had the money, if it's such a great bargain, why don't you buy one, it saves money....right? lol....Of course there will be modern cars, they always keep improving, but it's not the government that should be pushing the junk on us.

garden sizer wrote:

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hydro power for the whole county!!
there is a big lake, built in the early 60's, years before I was born.
why do you think im such a big proponent of alternative energy.
id hate for them to have to build any more of these big dams, but I guess were all hooked up to them here in the west....
either that or you get imported power from the NW(hydro) or east??
or nooookular power from california two remaining(dinosaur) plants.
remember enron???
lest hope that doesnt ever happen again.

liar

I sold my 40 acres in anderson

there is no free electricity

indoor growing requires high energy use

stop lying loser

no one asked what the source was and that has nothing to do with anything

you are such a clueless twitiot

and a confirmed liar

NoBlamer 2012 wrote:

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liar
I sold my 40 acres in anderson
there is no free electricity
indoor growing requires high energy use
stop lying loser
no one asked what the source was and that has nothing to do with anything
you are such a clueless twitiot
and a confirmed liar

why do you sound so hysterical when you post??

i dont know??

why did you sell the farm??

you could have a nice little 360 sq ft garden after visiting the doctor.

Im neither a liar or clueless twit.....

try to tone it down a bit?/ wwill you??

who said anything about free power???

you asked me about the carbon foot print....

that is why I mentioned the dam... dont get so defensive!!

the dam supplies all of the county, and still has lots to sell to PG & e in the valley and on the coast.

its is a 140 MW capacity power plant, so a county of 16000 residents hardly makes a dent.

even with the prolific growing...

it is simply a function of gravity that the cities use more electrcity.

MY growing isnt that prolific.

I just produce enough to smoke, per county regulations....

the LOWEST bracket....

yet 40 acres with a house represents the HIGHEST bracket of shasta county's rules...

but trinity has that really LIBERAL bracket at the top....2500 sq ft with a 30 plus acre parcel.

that is what pushes trinty over the top to be considered(by me) to be the MOST liberal county in america regarding cultivation.

at least with regards to official rules layed out by each county.

trinity and shasta arnt the only counties with liberal policies.

sutter and yuba counties also have relatively liberal pot garden regulations.\

i hope you enjoyed the information,

have a nice weekend!!

garden sizer

the question you keep evading was...

"how much energy do you waste growing indoors"

I realize you dont deal in facts or reality

I dont read your posts moron

NoBlamer 2012 wrote:

garden sizer
the question you keep evading was...
"how much energy do you waste growing indoors"
I realize you dont deal in facts or reality
I dont read your posts moron

not much!!
like I said, im just providing MY own medicine.

I live in a 550 sq ft cabin that I rent....

there is a thick canopy of trees and not much sun to grow with.

that is why i grow inside.

and the cops prefer it too??

do you care??

I hope I answered your question...

if I had my preference I would still grow inside(off the grid of course) because outdoor gardens attract crime.....
ask the cops. they would rather see us grow inside.

now how much energy are you wasting???

mine comes from a renewable source..

I hope yours does too, but if you live in the thick of the city, then part of your electricity might be renewable..

or part NOOOOOkular!!

garden sizer wrote:

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not much!!
like I said, im just providing MY own medicine.
I live in a 550 sq ft cabin that I rent....
there is a thick canopy of trees and not much sun to grow with.
that is why i grow inside.
and the cops prefer it too??
do you care??
I hope I answered your question...
if I had my preference I would still grow inside(off the grid of course) because outdoor gardens attract crime.....
ask the cops. they would rather see us grow inside.
now how much energy are you wasting???
mine comes from a renewable source..
I hope yours does too, but if you live in the thick of the city, then part of your electricity might be renewable..
or part NOOOOOkular!!

gfy liar

I know how much it costs and how much you waste growing indoors

its also inferior weed

you are a liar and a loser

stop wasting electricity

NoBlamer 2012 wrote:

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gfy liar
I know how much it costs and how much you waste growing indoors
its also inferior weed
you are a liar and a loser
stop wasting electricity

have a nice week end pal.

and try to cheer up.

its only four more years.

you are such a moron

just because there are turbines on the pit river doesnt mean that is where your electric company buys its power

you are a clueless fool and you dont know what you are talking about

we have a wood chip powered power plant near here
(honey lake power)

when the fire damaged the caribou power lines we did get our power from them for a couple weeks

otherwise they sell their power to pg&e

we get our power from a coal fired plant in utah

you dont know where your power company buys its power

stop lying loser

what is the phone number where you pay your electric bill

or should I say where mommy pays it...

of course you are too stupid and dishonest to say how much your electric bill is to run your lights 24/7

dont worry, I already know

indoor weed is bunk

gfy you lying loser

boy what sour pot hater!!

the drug war was lost years ago, but cheer up!!

you guys still have congress, to bring the political process to a continuoius stand still.

prohibition is the real enemy

what would YOU know about indoor vs outdoor??

do tell?

normally you would be right about the power...

but we have our own power company

sorry i didnt mention that.

we get first dibs on the dam.

everything else ive posted is verifiable online.

have a good weekend.

I hope you feel better!!:)

garden sizer
this idiot doesnt know all electricity goes into "the grid"

this moron is wasting power running lights to grow inferior weed indoors

you are clearly too stupid to back up anything you say or to debunk anything anyone else says

you are wasting power growing inferior weed

al gore is so ashamed of you

STOP WASTING POWER LOSER

Just keep it coming, we could use some moreof the same.

garden sizer wrote:

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2g's for a new car?
mabey in bangladesh??

would you finance me if I could build it for 2g's?

all it would take is a cheap motor, and a box shell.