Parents find daughter, 18, dead in pal's Seaford home

StandardizedTest wrote:
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And parents cannot lay down ground rules for the household because they want to be friends with their 18 year old daughter and friends don't do that.

YOU ASKED wrote:

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I must ask, have you been tested?? Because there seems to be a couple of loose wires in your brain.

So you don't think that the parents have any responsibility caring for their daughter????
So you think it's the police's fault???? Wrong! The cops are NOT babysitters!

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where not making assumptions. those who know the truth know that she died of heroin, and was using it for awhile and just couldnt be stopped. i know that natalie would rather have the truth about her death be known then all these other assumptions of homicide and suicide. it was an accidental overdose. maybe if someone called the cops earlier she could of been saved...but we will never know.

just want to say thank you for not replying with ignorance..but seems everyone is already jumping to conclusions before getting facts just like the young man who drowned in long beach..wrote is life off because they assumed he died because blacks dont swim..if someone is going to make a comment about a situation do research first before opening their mouth, in this case..typing with their fingers..once again..thank you for the reply and be well

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where not making assumptions. those who know the truth know that she died of heroin, and was using it for awhile and just couldnt be stopped. i know that natalie would rather have the truth about her death be known then all these other assumptions of homicide and suicide. it was an accidental overdose. maybe if someone called the cops earlier she could of been saved...but we will never know.

So if you know the truth, then you were there. Why didn't you call the cops. And if you weren't there then how do you know what really happened.

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So if you know the truth, then you were there. Why didn't you call the cops. And if you weren't there then how do you know what really happened.

no i wasnt there but i know people who were. I also knew nat and her actions and how she had been going downhill for awhile and couldnt be stopped. and if u say ''well why didnt you tell the parents?'' well thats because we all thought they already knew from her previous overdose. it was an accident and now hopefully people will learn from it. thats all that can be done now.

She isnt the first and wont be the last..They act like this just started going on. I lost my brother years ago to a drug overdose drugs are all around us. My condolences go out to the family. I know what ut feels like ot lose a loved one to something that could of been prevented. May time ease your pain. Rest in peace. Another soul faded into the clouds.

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She isnt the first and wont be the last..They act like this just started going on. I lost my brother years ago to a drug overdose drugs are all around us. My condolences go out to the family. I know what ut feels like ot lose a loved one to something that could of been prevented. May time ease your pain. Rest in peace. Another soul faded into the clouds.

I am sorry for your loss. I know she won't be the last. But you know what? I don't want your brother or Natalie to have died for nothing. Do you have any idea how many people had NO IDEA how bad this problem was til they were online here? Or til they heard it in the news? Inknwo of so many good people and good parents with drug addicted kids. Wrong set of friends..and mostof them got lucky and the kids straightened out. Some didn't.

What was especially horrific in Natalie's case is no one came to her aid until it was way too late. So it was all over the news and now, awareness is up as well. I think it is a good thing. After all...knowledge is power.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-l ...

The second paragraph: "The Plainedge High School senior even made curfew, which, in recognition of her recently conferred adulthood, had been moved back one hour, to 2:30 a.m."

2:30AM!!!!???? Are they kidding????? I do NOT feel sorry for these parents at all! What **** these parents are!
What do they think Natalie was doing at that hour?
Studying at a 24 hour library?
Natalie's parents should be arrested for child neglect!

A "2:30am curfew" is NOT a curfew; that's raw meat in a lion's cage.

StandardizedTest wrote:

http://www.newsday.com/news/lo cal/nassau/ny-l...
The second paragraph: "The Plainedge High School senior even made curfew, which, in recognition of her recently conferred adulthood, had been moved back one hour, to 2:30 a.m."

2:30AM!!!!???? Are they kidding????? I do NOT feel sorry for these parents at all! What **** these parents are!

What do they think Natalie was doing at that hour?
Studying at a 24 hour library?
Natalie's parents should be arrested for child neglect!

A "2:30am curfew" is NOT a curfew; that's raw meat in a lion's cage.

Sorry, but I had a 4AM curfew and wasn't in the place these young people were and made a most unfortunate life altering choice...

In my view, it's not about the curfew. If someone wants a drug to ingest or inject, regardless of age they will do it...

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Sorry, but I had a 4AM curfew and wasn't in the place these young people were and made a most unfortunate life altering choice...
In my view, it's not about the curfew. If someone wants a drug to ingest or inject, regardless of age they will do it...

I do agree that if a kid is going to do drugs, they will just start their night earlier. That doesn't mean a curfew isn't needed. Nothing good goes on in the early morning hours. What parent is going to wait up until 4am to check their kids out, to make sure they are in the same condition as when they left the home? A 4am curfew means that the kid is likely coming home to a dark house with no chance of being suspected of wrong doing.
Kids need to know they will be caught and suffer for their poor decisions. They need structure and guidance, remember their decision making is not fully developed at this age.
Also, the child that is not always under a watchful eye is the easier target for predators- nothing good goes on in the early morning hours.

Did she have a rash around the mouth by any chance?

NYStateOfMind wrote:

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Sorry, but I had a 4AM curfew and wasn't in the place these young people were and made a most unfortunate life altering choice...
In my view, it's not about the curfew. If someone wants a drug to ingest or inject, regardless of age they will do it...

Sorry, but a seventeen year old child out until 1:30am is child abuse.

StandardizedTest wrote:

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Sorry, but a seventeen year old child out until 1:30am is child abuse.

Since when and exatly what law states it child abuse?...

Hey Now wrote:

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I do agree that if a kid is going to do drugs, they will just start their night earlier. That doesn't mean a curfew isn't needed. Nothing good goes on in the early morning hours. What parent is going to wait up until 4am to check their kids out, to make sure they are in the same condition as when they left the home? A 4am curfew means that the kid is likely coming home to a dark house with no chance of being suspected of wrong doing.

Kids need to know they will be caught and suffer for their poor decisions. They need structure and guidance, remember their decision making is not fully developed at this age.

Also, the child that is not always under a watchful eye is the easier target for predators- nothing good goes on in the early morning hours.

To say nothing good goes on in the early morning hours is no different, in my view, than saying nothing good happens in the late evening hours. If a parent has a curfew and the child ingores the curfew, I remember PLENTY of friends of mine that were grounded because the parent waited up for them then decided to call it a night and deal with the disciplinary action in the morning/afternoon hours...

I do agree that our youth need structure and guidance. That's been in shorter supply for a variety of reasons. That said, I would think the basic foundation of understanding right versus wrong would have been established at an earlier point in a child's development...

Predators are out at ALL HOURS OF THE EVENING. I've seen as many of them starting at 9PM as I did at 3AM...

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Did she have a rash around the mouth by any chance?

Yes, she did. She got an infection from her lip ring that never healed because of her excessive drug use.

NYStateOfMind wrote:

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To say nothing good goes on in the early morning hours is no different, in my view, than saying nothing good happens in the late evening hours. If a parent has a curfew and the child ingores the curfew, I remember PLENTY of friends of mine that were grounded because the parent waited up for them then decided to call it a night and deal with the disciplinary action in the morning/afternoon hours...
I do agree that our youth need structure and guidance. That's been in shorter supply for a variety of reasons. That said, I would think the basic foundation of understanding right versus wrong would have been established at an earlier point in a child's development...
Predators are out at ALL HOURS OF THE EVENING. I've seen as many of them starting at 9PM as I did at 3AM...

Predators are out at all hours, not just at night.

Death Race wrote:

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Predators are out at all hours, not just at night.

Very true, indeed...

I was just attempting to put my post in context to the question of curfew...

I understand what you are all saying about bad things happening at any hour. However a curfew does have benefits. We as parents need to establish these curfews to form the boundary lines and then stick to our rules if and when they are broken. Children need set boundaries in all areas of their live. Believe it or not, if you start this process early in life, the long term benefits to everyone involved are great. Your child will have respect for you and others, and most importantly for themselves. As for the time of the curfew, I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't want to stay awake till 1:30 in the morning waiting for my child to come home, therefore the curfew is 11am (if I know where he is) up until the age of 18. After 18, I may consider 1:30pm (if I know where is). Parents need to take control, granted the kids will push the line, but it is our responsiblity to punish them for those infractions. I was a teen at one time, and I broke the rules, but I paid each time. Gotta say, I learned my lesson eventually.

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It's incredibly heartless of you people to judge Natalie like this. Ever realize that this was completely preventable if the prick had taken two seconds out of his precious party to check on the poor girl? I've known her since elementary school as one of the sweetest, kindest girls I'd ever met. Not to mention she's gorgeous and completely talented. Disrespecting her like that is 100% out of line. People have parties, it's high school, every one knows it; however, this one happened to go wrong. Don't blame her for being a teenager (irresponsible or not), blame the people who noticed her lying there that did nothing to help her.

Unfortunately, beauty and talent mean nothing if you're dead.

I think the underlying problem here is the teenager (and many of their stupid parents) assumption that "everyone parties" so it's okay if underage kids are drinking, smoking, snorting and/or shooting up. It's all part of growing up, right? NOT.

I guess this is part of Darwin's Law. Sad, but it's pretty much impossible to chance the social norms here--the ones causing children to die untimely deaths. Hopefully her death will save at least one person's life, but probably not. They think they're invincible and this could never happen to them. Until we read about it in the paper, that is....

StandardizedTest wrote:

http://www.newsday.com/news/lo cal/nassau/ny-l...
The second paragraph: "The Plainedge High School senior even made curfew, which, in recognition of her recently conferred adulthood, had been moved back one hour, to 2:30 a.m."
2:30AM!!!!???? Are they kidding????? I do NOT feel sorry for these parents at all! What **** these parents are!
What do they think Natalie was doing at that hour?
Studying at a 24 hour library?
Natalie's parents should be arrested for child neglect!
A "2:30am curfew" is NOT a curfew; that's raw meat in a lion's cage.

Especially if it's true that they knew of her drug problem and recent overdose...

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