Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,321

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139236 May 2, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, for most people, common sense would ask, what god's were common at the time?
Your suggestions were really, really stupid, weren't they?
Deist was very popular with the founding fathers. Some scholars believe that was the founding religion that this country goverment was founded on.
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139237 May 2, 2012
Hey Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I found a "life preserver" for him....
http://www.monkeydungeon.com/The%20institutio...
:O):O)
Hey Elmer J

Los Angeles, CA

#139238 May 2, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't drink and we are still working......
They are called a house man here and one of them works every day....
Please tell me you're not AA.
Hey Joe

Los Angeles, CA

#139239 May 2, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>
Deist was very popular with the founding fathers. Some scholars believe that was the founding religion that this country goverment was founded on.
I thought it was Penguinism?
Just Thinking

Clearlake, CA

#139240 May 2, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure,people on the losing end of a poll are always the one's whining about the outcome of the poll! LOL, Gallup has been in the business for a very long time and have an impeccable reputation! Sorry try again!
You agree with me that different poll organizations word polls to fit their agenda. Good for you. Hate to see your panties in a bunch.
Gallup is an excellent organization. You agree with me yet again. Bravo!
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139241 May 2, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I am denying no one anything.
I am simply stating the fact that marriage and gay unions are different.
Gays have every right and opportunity to establish legitimate rights that fit their situation. That is what heterosexuals did a long time ago.
Other than sexual preference, what difference?
Two loving people, who want to share a mental and physical relationship, support each other, take care of each other in health and sickness.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#139242 May 2, 2012
Hey Elmer J wrote:
<quoted text>
Please tell me you're not AA.
Nope.....I just don't drink......
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139243 May 2, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
You never strap your self into any boat that does not have a canopy and air tanks.....
This is a open boat and all off shore boats have what is called stand up bolsters
There is a picture about half way down on this link showing two seats.
One you can sit in and the other is in the stand up position
www.google.com/search...
Actually is is similar to riding a horse you learn to flex your knees to absorb the impact and you can time the impact as well...
Google or you tube Donzi and you will see what I am talking about....
Stand up is the only way in rough water and sitting down is VERY dangerous even in smooth water as you can always hit a wake or rouge wave and if you are seated you will break your back...
All I know is when I was in the navy and in the open ocean in a PBR, at 35 knots in four or five foot seas, I was wishing I was strap in. I know some times you have to be careful what you wish for.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#139244 May 2, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>
Other than sexual preference, what difference?
Two loving people, who want to share a mental and physical relationship, support each other, take care of each other in health and sickness.
Most of us are all for that.........

Just don't try and change the meaning of the word marriage..........LOL
Bill Of Rights

Livermore, CA

#139245 May 2, 2012
Just Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>
I couldn't care one bit about interracial marriages. This is (obummer)the 5th Mulatto president. Whoopee do.
I queried (OK word to use?)you on the statement "And now,lo and behold the first national opinion polls are coming out where the majority for the first time are in favor of Same sex marriage!"
If you please provide a link to this poll. Simple.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Sure here you go,your wish is my command!This is but one,there are many more out there to back up this one! Every year that passes the number in favor grows by about 2%! LOL
First public opinion poll in favor of SSM
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/19/poll...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#139246 May 2, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>
Other than sexual preference, what difference?
Two loving people, who want to share a mental and physical relationship, support each other, take care of each other in health and sickness.
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love

If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage

If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage

If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders

If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history

If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect

If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships

If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity

If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent

If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act

If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end

If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest

If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none

If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'

Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139247 May 2, 2012
Hey Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was Penguinism?
Those darn penguinist are always flying off the handle.:O)
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139248 May 2, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us are all for that.........
Just don't try and change the meaning of the word marriage..........LOL
OK I'll just leave it as it stands now.:O)
Joe Fortuna

Eureka, CA

#139249 May 2, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
Funny that you brought that up, like the first one. I posted that my marriage wasn't recgnozied by the government, some anti homosexual marriage person went off claiming because I wasn't married I couldn't have that special relation as someone married. Suggesting to me that they believed you couldn't have real love without marriage.
I had a response for each, but if you want to see them you'll have to go back a few months.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#139250 May 2, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny that you brought that up, like the first one. I posted that my marriage wasn't recgnozied by the government, some anti homosexual marriage person went off claiming because I wasn't married I couldn't have that special relation as someone married. Suggesting to me that they believed you couldn't have real love without marriage.
I had a response for each, but if you want to see them you'll have to go back a few months.
If you read my very first line and could understood English, you'd know I'm not saying that.

"If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love"

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Santiago Ixcuintla, Mexico

#139251 May 2, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>OK I'll just leave it as it stands now.:O)
do you understand why the gay community is more interested in changing the meaning of a word than getting equal rights under a different name

“"Swift Boats R 4 Water Skiing"”

Since: Mar 09

"Equality" = Constitution"

#139252 May 2, 2012
Joe Fortuna wrote:
<quoted text>
All I know is when I was in the navy and in the open ocean in a PBR, at 35 knots in four or five foot seas, I was wishing I was strap in. I know some times you have to be careful what you wish for.
PBR? LOL,Did someone mention a PBR? They were great weren't they Joe? A finer 50 foot boat has not been made since! They certainly past the test of time! Hey and they made great boats for skiing also! I have to tell you though,I don't ever remember being strapped in as you had to be ready to duck in a hurry if need be! When were you in,and did you do extensive duty on one? Just curious! I know off topic,my bad,sorry! Now back to the hate and bigotry! LOL

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#139254 May 2, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
I've seen this one before.

Didn't make sense then, doesn't now.

My relationship with my partner is equal to any good marriage.

I demand my rights to marriage, as an American citizen.

Keep your crappy, creepy emotions to yourself.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#139255 May 2, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
do you understand why the gay community is more interested in changing the meaning of a word than getting equal rights under a different name
Certainly. There is no reason not to call our marriage ...marriage, except an emotional attachment to a word by bigoted people.

No reason at all.

We want what you have, and there is no reason on God's green earth for us not to have it.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#139256 May 2, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you read my very first line and could understood English, you'd know I'm not saying that.
"If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love"
If you believe denying equal rights to American citizens is fair and Constitutional....

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