anyone know about the maltese breeder Wanda at the stone wall ranch homestead

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Oct 9, 2009
 
does anyone no Wanda adkins of stone wall ranch homestead?She is a breeder I heard about online. I am looking to buy a maltese.I saw her website on the internet and she is from this town. I do not live around bentonvilleand I just wanted to check this out before I purchased anything.Its nothing against her but there are so many scams out there,I have to be sure.If you know anything at all about this just let me know.Thanks The website is: http://www.stonewallranch.homestead.com/is stonewallranchhomestead
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West Linn, OR

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Dec 10, 2009
 
Yes, she is running a scam. My sister was interested in a parti yorkie but only wanted one that was small. Wanda told her it would grow up to be 3 lbs and asked my sister for a hefty deposit (even though her webiste asks for $200 to hold the puppy). Afterwards, she sent my sister an email saying it was going to be a bigger sized dog, and would not give her any specifics, so my sister said she didn't want the puppy. Wanda refused to give her a refund. My sister asked if she could put the money towards another puppy that would be smaller in size and Wanda said "no, she wasn't going to breed the puppies any longer". If you look at her website, she is still breeding parti yorkies. We have filed complaints in her county to have her license (if she has one) revoked. We are also talking to attornies.
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Jan 15, 2010
 
Wanda (Stonewall Ranch ) is not running a scam. She is a reputable breeder who has been in business in the same location at her home for about 7 years. You can look on her guest book to see the many happy owners of her puppies.
Estimating a puppies size , especially with a very young puppy, is very difficult since puppies grow at different rates with sometimes growing faster or slower than expected.
There are growth charts that predict adult size, which looks like is what she uses since she says “ is charting to be..lbs as an adult” by each puppy. The growth chart is an estimate of adult weight and is used by many breeders to estimate weight.
When a person buys a puppy and puts down a deposit, she has made a commitment to buy that puppy ----Not a commitment to buy the puppy if it is a certain size as an adult, or has a certain size ears, or a certain personality as an adult..
The only way to know exactly the adult weight of a puppy is to buy an adult !!
Go to Wanda’s website yourself at www.stonewallranch.homestead.com and see her puppies, read her guarantee and the comments from her many satisfied customers instead of relying on one dissatisfied sister .
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West Linn, OR

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Feb 1, 2010
 
I'm assuming the opinion given above is from her or a relative or a friend.

Example, go to her website now and a parti yorkie puppy she was selling for $2-$3K is now listed at $300 with no explanation. The reality is that the puppy is not a pure parti yorkie, rather, a mixed yorkie/maltese mutt.

I got in contact with someone who bought a parti yorkie from her and, later, confirmed from the vet that it was not 100% pure parti yorkie. The ears never went up, the size of the dog was much larger than normal "big" yorkies, the hair of the dog was nothing like a yorkie so he took him to the vet only to find out it wasn't a yorkie (parti yorkie, that is - the vet said it was a mix of a yorkie/ maltese). It's horrible when breeders sell pets via the internet, have you fall in love with a dog, to later find out your overpaid for the dog... who now owns your heart so you don't return it.
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Jun 18, 2010
 
I bought a yorkie from her about 3 years ago. She is an honest breeder. Your sister and you need to educate yourselves. I breed my Yorkie that I bought from Wanda. I also do not refund deposits... they are non refundable for a reason. Your lucky she contacted her to say she would be bigger.

As far as the weight goes... it is only an estimate. NO ONE can tell you an exact weight. I can give you a rough estimate when your pup is around 8 or 12 weeks old. Being a breeder, you become familiar with what your bitch puts out. In my girl's case, she always gives me 3, a small (3-3.5lb), a medium (4-4.5lb) and a large ( 5-7lbs) never fails but you can't say that 100%.

The problem with most people is they think they want that small itty bitty dog but don't stop long enough to educate themselves on what possibilities come with that. It's the I want what I want ~ now mentality... and that is why we end up with so many dogs in shelters... they didn't turn out small enough... ridiculous.
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Sep 2, 2010
 
I was looking for info on Parti Yorkies. Today was the first time I'd ever heard of them. From what I've gathered they are mixed somewhere along the line. That is what throws in extra colors. So why in the world would people pay outlandish prices for them?

As for size, well. No one would be confused if breeders didn't lie in the in the first place. When I have puppies up front I say I don't know how big they will be but they can't be bigger than the parents.

People don't take there Yorkie to a shelter cause it wasn't small enough. If you pay $3000 for a pup and it grows bigger than you hoped. Inside people feel like "I wished it'd stayed smaller" and "I won't be a ref for that breeder" That's just stupid. It's the mutt pups that were suppose to be Medium Size and it's extra large in shelters. I have never been to the shelter where there was a Yorkie. You'd be lucky to see a full breed of any kind. So that's not a card to play.

If you asked me all Breeders run scams. Charging $1000 + for a life. Ask any breeder how big the pup will be and they will all say small, tiny, small. Knowing the father is 5 pounds, yet still saying it's teacup.

If you want a puppy shop around, get to know the breeder. In Indiana there are Breeders with pups for $500-$600 with AKC Breeding right.
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Nov 29, 2010
 
I have been to Stonewall Ranch and bought a puppy from Wanda's puppy mill. I thought I was buying a malti-poo, but in fact I bought a jack russell/poodle. This hyper little rat dog had so many problems I finally gave him away, I didnt know I was buying from a puppy mill, but when I saw all the puppies in cages, I should have asked for my money back, but didnt.
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Mar 1, 2011
 
Scam wrote:
I have been to Stonewall Ranch and bought a puppy from Wanda's puppy mill. I thought I was buying a malti-poo, but in fact I bought a jack russell/poodle. This hyper little rat dog had so many problems I finally gave him away, I didnt know I was buying from a puppy mill, but when I saw all the puppies in cages, I should have asked for my money back, but didnt.
If you actually WENT to Stonewall Ranch and knew it was a puppy mill, why would you buy a puppy there?? How could you not know you were buying from a puppy mill if you went there in person? you make no sense.
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Mar 1, 2011
 
I bought a parti-colored yorkie from Wanda and am very happy with my healthy 7lb puppy. He is now 6 months and very sociable, playful, and healthy.

He's a little bigger than was expected, but I personally don't mind because I did't want a little tiny teacup to start with. Those little ones come with a load of health problems.

When I was purchasing my puppy I spoke with Wanda in person and she was helpful and informative. She was also very accomodating with my short purchase notice, and shipped him right away with a vet check. She asked me to call her as soon as I received my puppy, which showed me that she cared about the welfare of the puppies. She insisted that I contact her for any questions I may have in the future and made me feel very comfortable with the puppy I received.
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May 30, 2011
 
I bought a parti gene carrier female from Wanda. In several phone conversations I discussed in detail what we wanted in our new puppy that was to be for my 6 yr old daughter. Of course she had exactly what we wanted.Told us about the parents, how small they were and what great hair coats they had. Well we drove 3 hrs. with my excited daughter that couldn't wait to get her new puppy. Right before we get there Wanda informs us she had moved and did not have the parents on site, but had just brought the one little puppy to her new house. Should have turned around then! We get there and walk in to this horrible stinch like dirty dog with some major ear problems. Of course my daughter was in love with it already. So what could I do, I hated to let her down. We payed Wanda and drove 3hrs. back with this horrible smell in our car. Took her straight to Petsmart and they talked about the horrible smell and condition of her coat. Got her scrubbed up and to the vet the next day. She had a really bad case of ear mites! Now we have her cleaned up and smelling good, but the supposedly 4 1/2 lb yorkie is already 6 1/2 lbs at 5 months, her ears are floppy, I cannot get them to stand, everyone wants to know what kind of dog she is, no one can tell she is a yorkie(if she is). Her head is bigger than her body. Don't think she is full blood. She is a sweet puppy, just nothing like we were told. I have emailed Wanda but I get no response. That is my experience with WANDA!!
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Jul 26, 2011
 
Silly People wrote:
I was looking for info on Parti Yorkies. Today was the first time I'd ever heard of them. From what I've gathered they are mixed somewhere along the line. That is what throws in extra colors. So why in the world would people pay outlandish prices for them?
As for size, well. No one would be confused if breeders didn't lie in the in the first place. When I have puppies up front I say I don't know how big they will be but they can't be bigger than the parents.
People don't take there Yorkie to a shelter cause it wasn't small enough. If you pay $3000 for a pup and it grows bigger than you hoped. Inside people feel like "I wished it'd stayed smaller" and "I won't be a ref for that breeder" That's just stupid. It's the mutt pups that were suppose to be Medium Size and it's extra large in shelters. I have never been to the shelter where there was a Yorkie. You'd be lucky to see a full breed of any kind. So that's not a card to play.
If you asked me all Breeders run scams. Charging $1000 + for a life. Ask any breeder how big the pup will be and they will all say small, tiny, small. Knowing the father is 5 pounds, yet still saying it's teacup.
If you want a puppy shop around, get to know the breeder. In Indiana there are Breeders with pups for $500-$600 with AKC Breeding right.
You very obviously did NOT do any research on the background and genetics of the parti colored yorkshire terrier. Like any animal there are recessive color genes that will occasionally crop up and when deliberately and selectively bred for will become a more dominent characteristic of the animal. As to size and type of hair or coat, its all in the genes. There are silkier finer hair types and coarser "woolier" hair types in yorkies. It's called genetics. Not all yorkies ears stand up either. Does NOT mean that the dog is not a yorkie. Historically the yorkshire terrier was about 12 - 15 lbs. Scottish weavers bred them as varment dogs and took them to england with them where they were valued as pets and lap dogs. Just like so many other breeds, man couldnt leave good enough alone and began breeding for smaller and smaller dogs which has led to several health related problems not faced by their larger ancestors and larger yorkies of today. It is not unusual for a yorkie to be 8 - 10 pounds but most breeders are trying to breed for 7 pounds and under. Also, there is NO such thing as a teacup yorkie, just a smaller than average size. The smaller they are the more health problems and shorter life span. Stupid uneducated people like you shouldnt be allowed to own such a beautiful and loving little dog.
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Jul 26, 2011
 
Darwin wrote:
I bought a parti-colored yorkie from Wanda and am very happy with my healthy 7lb puppy. He is now 6 months and very sociable, playful, and healthy.
He's a little bigger than was expected, but I personally don't mind because I did't want a little tiny teacup to start with. Those little ones come with a load of health problems.
When I was purchasing my puppy I spoke with Wanda in person and she was helpful and informative. She was also very accomodating with my short purchase notice, and shipped him right away with a vet check. She asked me to call her as soon as I received my puppy, which showed me that she cared about the welfare of the puppies. She insisted that I contact her for any questions I may have in the future and made me feel very comfortable with the puppy I received.
Kudoos!!! Finally someone who understands that not every yorkie weighs 3-5 pounds and that the smaller they are the more health problems they have. There are no guarantees when it comes to size. Genetics play a huge part and historically the yorkie was 12 - 15 pounds before man started screwing with it and breeding for small sizes. Not all ears stand up, doesnt mean that it isnt a yorkie, not all coats are the same, some are silky and others are more woolie or coarse, doesnt mean that it isnt a yorkie. What makes a yorkie a yorkie is its heart, that "to die for" personality.
I am so glad that you are happy with your puppy. I just bought two puppies from Wanda and am very pleased. Yes her dogs are raised in cages but they are very clean, NO smell, and all the dogs were well groomed. You might not have been able to visit her kennel but I did and was very impressed. What you dont know about me is that my sister is a vet and I would have been had I had the patience. I am very particular about who I buy from and the conditions the animals are raised in. You purchased your puppy from a good breeder.
Love your puppy, he/she will bring you many years of joy and companionship.
We have Wanda to thank for the wonderful additions to our families
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Jul 26, 2011
 
SCAM wrote:
Yes, she is running a scam. My sister was interested in a parti yorkie but only wanted one that was small. Wanda told her it would grow up to be 3 lbs and asked my sister for a hefty deposit (even though her webiste asks for $200 to hold the puppy). Afterwards, she sent my sister an email saying it was going to be a bigger sized dog, and would not give her any specifics, so my sister said she didn't want the puppy. Wanda refused to give her a refund. My sister asked if she could put the money towards another puppy that would be smaller in size and Wanda said "no, she wasn't going to breed the puppies any longer". If you look at her website, she is still breeding parti yorkies. We have filed complaints in her county to have her license (if she has one) revoked. We are also talking to attornies.
Good luck on getting any attorney to do more than take your money and not get you any satisfaction. No one will revoke her license because there is no such thing as a guarantee on the size a puppy will grow to.
You very obviously did NOT do any research on the background and genetics of the yorkshire terrier, As to size and type of hair or coat, its all in the genes. There are silkier finer hair types and coarser "woolier" hair types in yorkies. It's called genetics. Not all yorkies ears stand up either. Does NOT mean that the dog is not a yorkie. Historically the yorkshire terrier was about 12 - 15 lbs. Scottish weavers bred them as varment dogs and took them to england with them where they were valued as pets and lap dogs. Just like so many other breeds, man couldnt leave good enough alone and began breeding for smaller and smaller dogs which has led to several health related problems not faced by their larger ancestors and larger yorkies of today. It is not unusual for a yorkie to be 8 - 10 pounds but most breeders are trying to breed for 7 pounds and under. Also, there is NO such thing as a teacup yorkie, just a smaller than average size, no guarantee again, it just may be a slow grower like some human "pups". The smaller they are the more health problems and shorter life span. Stupid uneducated people like you shouldnt be allowed to own such a beautiful and loving little dog especially when all you care about is that it has to be "tiny".

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Jul 26, 2011
 
Silly People wrote:
I was looking for info on Parti Yorkies. Today was the first time I'd ever heard of them. From what I've gathered they are mixed somewhere along the line. That is what throws in extra colors. So why in the world would people pay outlandish prices for them?
As for size, well. No one would be confused if breeders didn't lie in the in the first place. When I have puppies up front I say I don't know how big they will be but they can't be bigger than the parents.
People don't take there Yorkie to a shelter cause it wasn't small enough. If you pay $3000 for a pup and it grows bigger than you hoped. Inside people feel like "I wished it'd stayed smaller" and "I won't be a ref for that breeder" That's just stupid. It's the mutt pups that were suppose to be Medium Size and it's extra large in shelters. I have never been to the shelter where there was a Yorkie. You'd be lucky to see a full breed of any kind. So that's not a card to play.
If you asked me all Breeders run scams. Charging $1000 + for a life. Ask any breeder how big the pup will be and they will all say small, tiny, small. Knowing the father is 5 pounds, yet still saying it's teacup.
If you want a puppy shop around, get to know the breeder. In Indiana there are Breeders with pups for $500-$600 with AKC Breeding right.
As to "cant be bigger than the parents" Yes they can and it is not unusual for a puppy to end up larger than its biggest parent. Back to genetics. Just because mom and dad are little does not mean that grandma or grandpa didnt weigh more. I have raised yorkies for years and have had pups from the same litter grow up to vary as much as 3 pounds between the largest and smallest when full grown and the parents were within 8 ounces of each other. Uneducated people like you do not deserve such wonderful dogs as pets.
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Jul 26, 2011
 
It's been over a year since my sister bought her dog from Wanda. First, it isn't a yorkie... vet says it's a mutt/mix-breed, despite paying $2500 for it! Next, something is wrong with the dog. He is a puppy and is scared to jump (what dog is scared to jump), he does not walk up or down stairs. He has a serious fear of stairs. He is always sick - just 2 weeks ago my sister spent another $600 at the vet's office. The vet thinks he needs surgery for his hip. Oh -- this "yorkie" is close to 15 pounds.
We have filed complaints with the better business bureau and notified the humane society that she is running a puppy mill.
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Jul 26, 2011
 
$2500 for a YORKIE???????? Something sounds fishy there.

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Apr 7, 2012
 
I recently bought a Parti Yorkie (Candy) from Wanda. I live in NY and was looking for a bargain. I found Wanda via pupyfind.com . Before I finalized my purchase, I came across this forum and became very concerned after reading all the negative comments about her breeding operation. She always seemed very honest in our numerous phone conversations so I decided to go ahead, fully aware of the risks. All I can say is the puppy is wonderful. Small, cute, ears up. Just like promised. People can't believe the price (1000$) I paid they tell me she would cost about 2,500 around here. I am very pleased and would not hesitate in buying another puppy from Wanda.
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May 25, 2012
 
We had gotten a yorkie from her, cost 2500 for the yorkie and breeding rights, plus shipping.

The only problem, vet says the yorkie is infertile. So I wouldn't recomend a dog for breeding from her, but as pets, they're fine.
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Jan 11, 2013
 
wanda is not a scam! she has wonderful puppies i have bought more than one from her! she was honest with me both times! i will contunie to talk to wanda and buy a puppy from her if she has something that i am intersted in.
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Mar 21, 2013
 
Wanda is a wonderful person with a honest business. She takes pride in her dogs and even offers a one year guarantee that her puppies will be healthy. My little guy is now 4 years old. He weighs exactly what Wanda said. 5 pounds and his hair is long and silky. She does not run a puppy mill. Her dogs are all happy and will adjusted. I paid about $600 for my dog. Which I believed was fair. Her parti puppies are more but that's average cost anywhere. Know your facts before you speak ill of someone.

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