Ex-cop accidentally killed himself trying to shoot a turtle

Aug 3, 2008 | Posted by: Maria Merlino | Full story: www.phillyburbs.com

A retired Bensalem police officer accidentally killed himself while attempting to shoot a snapping turtle behind his home in Northampton, the Bucks County Coroner's office said Friday.

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TRANSCRIPT: http://lybio.net/police-brutality-dea ...
Ian Birk, 27, who joined the department two years ago, was on patrol Monday afternoon when he saw John T. Williams crossing Boren Avenue at Howell Street carrying a folding knife and a piece of wood.
The officer pulled his cruiser over and approached Williams, police officials said. Police say Birk ordered him to drop the knife three times before he fired five shots from a distance of nine to 10 feet killing him. The knife was found closed http://www.komonews.com/news/local/10 ...
Initial reports by the police were that the man advanced on the officer with the knife; however, the department on Tuesday said it could no longer be sure that occurred.
Sean Whitcomb, the police department's spokesman, said Wednesday that the department was looking for additional witnesses to the shooting or anyone who might have been with Williams earlier in the day.
Birk has been placed on routine administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.
Alex Castas, general manager of Ye Olde Curiosity Shop on the Seattle waterfront, said his shop has been buying carvings from Williams' family for five generations, stretching back to the 1880s, when the shop used to buy from tribal members paddling up in canoes.
He said he had known Williams for 15 years, and never known him to be violent, though he often knew Williams to be incoherent because of drinking.
"I can definitely see a scenario where John had been drinking and it is taking him a while to focus exactly on what is going on; I could see him tripping more than I could see him lunging."
It was the same for Chaney Haney and Julie Reisman, co-owners of Glo, a restaurant on Capitol Hill where Williams sold his work, and liked to sit on the bench outside on the sidewalk, carving.
"I wonder if the officer knew he was hard of hearing; he told me he could not hear out of one ear," Haney said. "If it was my guess, I would just say he was standing there and the officer was trying to get his attention and John didn't hear him."
Reisman said Williams was slow on his feet, and difficult to communicate with.
"He is not a lucid person. You can't have a coherent conversation with him. You say,'How is it going?' and he will start talking about something that has nothing to do with here and now," Reisman said. "There was a real disconnect there between what he was receiving and what he was putting out."

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Victoria Kevins Daughter wrote:
Does it serve him right??? REALLY!!!!!!! if you knew the whole story then you wouldn't think the way you do, it did not actually happen that way! My father was RETIRED that is what the article says!! He was the most AMAZING person you would ever meet, he would give you the shirt off of his back! It's sad to say that you have never met anyone like that and you never will so that's your loss! But before you go an judge someone for how an article is written MAKE sure that you think before you type because there are children and grandchildren, brother's, sister's and HIS mother who can read this! It has been the worst year and half on my family and for you to add fuel to the fire does not make it any easier on us! WE are the one's who are grieving still and always will! GUESS what at least you will be able tp walk your daughter down the isle and have your father daughter dance! I WILL NEVER HAVE THAT! So PLEASE before you judge people there are his 2 daughter's and grandaughter who are missing him every day!
Don't listen to those brainless idiots that put animals ahead of people. They are probably hypocrites anyway. I bet they eat meat at mc Donald’s and wear leather belts and shoes. I wonder what they would think if a big snapper took of a finger or part of a hand of their kid, sibling, girlfriend or boyfriend, mother, father, or friend.

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Victoria Lawler Daughter wrote:
Let me tell you PAM! If you are all of 98lbs then let me tell you something this turtle was heavier than you! try about 150lbs! It took my brother and brother in-law 2 1/2 hours just to catch it with a net and then another hour to get it out of the water! So before you type why don't you think to look up on the internet how big SNAPPING TURTLES can get!
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next time call Animal Control. they will get rid of the animal "humanely". you just don't go around and murder another innocent animal for NO reason.

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Info 46 wrote:
TRANSCRIPT: http://lybio.net/police-brutality-dea ...
Ian Birk, 27, who joined the department two years ago, was on patrol Monday afternoon when he saw John T. Williams crossing Boren Avenue at Howell Street carrying a folding knife and a piece of wood.
The officer pulled his cruiser over and approached Williams, police officials said. Police say Birk ordered him to drop the knife three times before he fired five shots from a distance of nine to 10 feet killing him. The knife was found closed http://www.komonews.com/news/local/10 ...
Initial reports by the police were that the man advanced on the officer with the knife; however, the department on Tuesday said it could no longer be sure that occurred.
Sean Whitcomb, the police department's spokesman, said Wednesday that the department was looking for additional witnesses to the shooting or anyone who might have been with Williams earlier in the day.
Birk has been placed on routine administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.
Alex Castas, general manager of Ye Olde Curiosity Shop on the Seattle waterfront, said his shop has been buying carvings from Williams' family for five generations, stretching back to the 1880s, when the shop used to buy from tribal members paddling up in canoes.
He said he had known Williams for 15 years, and never known him to be violent, though he often knew Williams to be incoherent because of drinking.
"I can definitely see a scenario where John had been drinking and it is taking him a while to focus exactly on what is going on; I could see him tripping more than I could see him lunging."
It was the same for Chaney Haney and Julie Reisman, co-owners of Glo, a restaurant on Capitol Hill where Williams sold his work, and liked to sit on the bench outside on the sidewalk, carving.
"I wonder if the officer knew he was hard of hearing; he told me he could not hear out of one ear," Haney said. "If it was my guess, I would just say he was standing there and the officer was trying to get his attention and John didn't hear him."
Reisman said Williams was slow on his feet, and difficult to communicate with.
"He is not a lucid person. You can't have a coherent conversation with him. You say,'How is it going?' and he will start talking about something that has nothing to do with here and now," Reisman said. "There was a real disconnect there between what he was receiving and what he was putting out."
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what's this have to do with turtles?
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Aug 2, 2012
 
although i never new the man,,i would look into other reasons than a bullet bouncing off a turtles back and killing him( even though it is very possible seeing how big they do get around here and how hard the helmets are,or how ever it seems to have happened,,being retired ,and having the reputation that he seemed to have as a very kind and respected person he probably questioned quite alot about or suspected ,,,the open window of meth,,,from the pocono's down the north east ext,, and down street rd. through southhamton and bensalem,, to bristol ,,and then,into phila,,,being the family i would ask and keep asking,,if they are not positive it was an accident,,,and if was an accident i feel very bad for the family and my prayers are with you to mend your broken hearts,,,these turtles can be very dangerous at this size and if it got your kid in the crick ,,,you would not see your kid ever again,,,
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Aug 3, 2012
 
take heed to and witch in what matter's you speak of..so that it may not be cast upon yourself,,wether it be judging ,another or portraying thine hatred ,,for the God that you say is not there might strike and it may be to late for you to change your mind ,,,SELAH
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Aug 4, 2012
 
I stand to be corrected in previous post,,,,Lowersouthhamton ,,not southhamton,,thank's
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out of context with officer and turtle,,but follow up on wittling man,throughout my travels,,as i have known him to be a harmless and although much going against him in life ,,in being a great succes in many peoples eye's,,,his knife was only ever wittled a stick,,

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