Who do you support for Governor in Pennsylvania in 2010?

GenPatton wrote:

No need for the Republicans to say anything. The extremists in the Democratic party are spewing enough hatred for all Americans.

LOL! True, that's usually the Republican role.

The difference is that the Democrats marginalize their extremists. Republicans elect them to Congress.

did-u-c-that wrote:

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No shit Sherlock. I know that Immelt isn't running for Prez. But, he does work for Obama and Immelt outsources jobs. So, if Obama is working to increase jobs in America, Immelt is actually decreasing jobs in America. Shouldn't Obama be giving Immelt hell for doing exactly the opposite of what needs to be done? Or maybe looking for someone to replace him?

Do you know that Obama ISN'T giving Immelt hell? How WOULD you know, Sherlock?

The fact remains - Obama is doing everything he can to create jobs while the GOP is obstructing him. Romney CLAIMS he'll create jobs but he can't/won't articulate how and his record shows that he never has been able to do it - either in the private sector or as governor.

Repeal Is a Fantasy
by David Frum Jun 28, 2012 1:10 PM EDT
(David Frum is a conservative)

The Republican Plan B is to repeal Obamacare on Day 1 of a Romney presidency.

Good luck with that.

First, today's Supreme Court decision will make it a lot harder to elect Mitt Romney. President Obama has just been handed a fearsome election weapon. 2012 is no longer exclusively a referendum on the president's economic management. 2012 is now also a referendum on Mitt Romney's healthcare plans. The president can now plausibly say that a vote for the Republicans is a vote to raise prescription drug costs on senior citizens and to empower insurance companies to deny coverage to children for pre-existing conditions. Those charges will hurt—and maybe hurt enough to sway the election.

Second, even if Republicans do win the White House and Senate in 2012, how much appetite will they then have for that 1-page repeal bill? Suddenly it will be their town halls filled with outraged senior citizens whose benefits are threatened; their incumbencies that will be threatened. Already we are hearing that some Republicans wish to retain the more popular elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Which means the proposed 1-page bill will begin to grow.

Third, Mitt Romney has promised to grant states waivers from the obligations of the ACA. Not all states will ask for such waivers. Many will eagerly institute the ACA, which (let us not forget) includes large immediate grants of federal aid.

Fourth, Republicans will find the task of writing their "replace" law even more agonizing than the Democrats found original passage. The party has no internal consensus on what a replacement would look like. Worse, any replacement of the law's popular elements will require financing. But where is that money to come from? New taxes are unacceptable. The proceeds of "closing loopholes" are already spoken for—that's how President Romney has promised to finance his promise to cut the top rate of tax 28%. And he's also promised to increase defense spending.

Fifth, the clock is ticking. President Obama passed the ACA in the second year of his administration. A President Romney will have to pass repeal in the first year of his, because the law goes into effect in 2014. By then, states will have to have their exchanges up and working. And states that have put themselves through that work will not be very eager to see Washington undo it. If replacement does not happen in the first 100 days, it won't happen at all—that is, it won't happen as a single measure, but rather will take the form of dozens of small incremental changes adopted episodically over the next 20 years.

The outlook then: Even if Republicans win big in 2012, they will have to fight inch by bloody inch for changes they could have had for the asking in 2010. Truly, this is Waterloo—a Waterloo brought about by a dangerous combination of ideological frenzy, poor risk calculation, and a self-annihilating indifference to the real work of government.

For anyone interested in the TRUTH behind the Fast and Furious fiasco.

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The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal

Quite simply, there's a fundamental misconception at the heart of the Fast and Furious scandal.

Nobody disputes that suspected straw purchasers under surveillance by the ATF repeatedly bought guns that eventually fell into criminal hands. Issa and others charge that the ATF intentionally allowed guns to walk as an operational tactic.

But five law-enforcement agents directly involved in Fast and Furious tell Fortune that the ATF had no such tactic. They insist they never purposefully allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. Just the opposite: They say they seized weapons whenever they could but were hamstrung by prosecutors and weak laws, which stymied them at every turn.

Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies.

Fortune reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential ATF documents and interviewed 39 people, including seven law-enforcement agents with direct knowledge of the case. Several, including Voth, are speaking out for the first time.

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The right is lying about this case. They are deliberately spreading disinformation about Fast & Furious.

The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal

A Fortune investigation reveals that the ATF never intentionally allowed guns to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels. How the world came to believe just the opposite is a tale of rivalry, murder, and political bloodlust.

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06...

Dan the Man wrote:

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Do you know that Obama ISN'T giving Immelt hell? How WOULD you know, Sherlock?
The fact remains - Obama is doing everything he can to create jobs while the GOP is obstructing him. Romney CLAIMS he'll create jobs but he can't/won't articulate how and his record shows that he never has been able to do it - either in the private sector or as governor.

Just like Pelosi said that they needed to pass the bill to find out what was in it, maybe Romney wants to wait until he is elected to let people know what his job creation plan is :p

obamacare worked real well in 2010 for the dems.

lets see how well it works in 2012.

look at all the gloating on here from the dems, like a child left alone with a bag of cookies.

what you socialsits need to be doing is thanking the middle class for working. we just got taxed today.

did-u-c-that wrote:

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Just like Pelosi said that they needed to pass the bill to find out what was in it, maybe Romney wants to wait until he is elected to let people know what his job creation plan is :p

First, she never said that.

Second, that's EXACTLY what Romney wants to do. If he actually had a plan (which he doesn't) he wouldn't reveal it anyway because people would vote against him.

boxhard wrote:

obamacare worked real well in 2010 for the dems.
lets see how well it works in 2012.
look at all the gloating on here from the dems, like a child left alone with a bag of cookies.
what you socialsits need to be doing is thanking the middle class for working. we just got taxed today.

Yeah, it is going to be so nice for people who live paycheck to paycheck to be forced to pay for something that they can't afford. It is the people who who make too much for medicaid benefits, but too little to afford insurance through their employers, that are going to be the ones who get screwed.

Dan the Man wrote:

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First, she never said that.
Second, that's EXACTLY what Romney wants to do. If he actually had a plan (which he doesn't) he wouldn't reveal it anyway because people would vote against him.

Hmmmm? I guess my ears deceived me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

boxhard wrote:

obamacare worked real well in 2010 for the dems.
lets see how well it works in 2012.
look at all the gloating on here from the dems, like a child left alone with a bag of cookies.
what you socialsits need to be doing is thanking the middle class for working. we just got taxed today.

Your huge loss today is only the beginning for you anarchists. People are fed up with your tea bagging bullshit.

Most of you are off pouting like a school kid who lost his best friend. You can't handle a loss - or the truth.

Yes - you did get taxed - boo-hoo and shame on you. It takes money to fund a program that provides healthcare for the less fortunate - it has to come from somewhere - I'm glad to pay a little more in taxes to have the majority of my fellow Americans covered and for us to catch up with the rest of the civilized countries who care about ALL their citizens.

You anarchists can take your greed-based "me" policies and shove them.

Furthermore, the CBO has projected that Obamacare will reduce the deficit by 1-2 trillion over the next 10 years - so eat that.

GenPatton wrote:

No need for the Republicans to say anything. The extremists in the Democratic party are spewing enough hatred for all Americans.

HEE HEE! I bet that Supreme Court ruling musta stung pretty good!
LMAO

Suck it up....The law is on the books..........;o)

You tea baggers can now represent your beloved flipper romney now but you wont as its no secret flipper is a dud with no accomplishments and a racist tea bagger cant do any thing but hate the black president, so what?

Poor republicans will have sand in their vaginas for weeks!

boxhard wrote:

obamacare worked real well in 2010 for the dems.
lets see how well it works in 2012.
look at all the gloating on here from the dems, like a child left alone with a bag of cookies.
what you socialsits need to be doing is thanking the middle class for working. we just got taxed today.

Hey boxtard what's a 'socialsits'?
Be happy your drugs for your dementia and bipolar will be cheaper soon thanks to Obamacare!
LMAO!

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xfocker wrote:

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Your huge loss today is only the beginning for you anarchists. People are fed up with your tea bagging bullshit.
Most of you are off pouting like a school kid who lost his best friend. You can't handle a loss - or the truth.
Yes - you did get taxed - boo-hoo and shame on you. It takes money to fund a program that provides healthcare for the less fortunate - it has to come from somewhere - I'm glad to pay a little more in taxes to have the majority of my fellow Americans covered and for us to catch up with the rest of the civilized countries who care about ALL their citizens.
You anarchists can take your greed-based "me" policies and shove them.
Furthermore, the CBO has projected that Obamacare will reduce the deficit by 1-2 trillion over the next 10 years - so eat that.

Hell, we care about all our citizens and everyone elses. And, 1 trillion over the next 10 years isn't that much. Also, only those who don't get healthcare by 2014 will get taxed.

xfocker wrote:

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Your huge loss today is only the beginning for you anarchists. People are fed up with your tea bagging bullshit.
Most of you are off pouting like a school kid who lost his best friend. You can't handle a loss - or the truth.
Yes - you did get taxed - boo-hoo and shame on you. It takes money to fund a program that provides healthcare for the less fortunate - it has to come from somewhere - I'm glad to pay a little more in taxes to have the majority of my fellow Americans covered and for us to catch up with the rest of the civilized countries who care about ALL their citizens.
You anarchists can take your greed-based "me" policies and shove them.
Furthermore, the CBO has projected that Obamacare will reduce the deficit by 1-2 trillion over the next 10 years - so eat that.

Boxtard would rather pay for two unwinnable, unpaid wars and the Bush tax cuts .......... Go figure? LMAO!\\It's obvious these folks dont like the blacks,the gays, and the poor to even thrive in our society.........As Romney said when he first looked at his Presidential tour bus, "WOW!", "I've never been on bus before!", " I couldnt see myself riding that bus 5 days week"," How do people do that"?
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xfocker wrote:

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Your huge loss today is only the beginning for you anarchists. People are fed up with your tea bagging bullshit.
Most of you are off pouting like a school kid who lost his best friend. You can't handle a loss - or the truth.
Yes - you did get taxed - boo-hoo and shame on you. It takes money to fund a program that provides healthcare for the less fortunate - it has to come from somewhere - I'm glad to pay a little more in taxes to have the majority of my fellow Americans covered and for us to catch up with the rest of the civilized countries who care about ALL their citizens.
You anarchists can take your greed-based "me" policies and shove them.
Furthermore, the CBO has projected that Obamacare will reduce the deficit by 1-2 trillion over the next 10 years - so eat that.

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It takes money to fund a program that provides healthcare for the less fortunate - it has to come from somewhere -

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In 1964, upon Johnson's request, Congress passed the Revenue Act of 1964 and the Economic Opportunity Act, which was in association with the war on poverty.

Johnson set in motion bills and acts,[64] creating programs such as Head Start, food stamps, Work Study, Medicare and Medicaid, which still exist today.

"I'll have those n*g-gers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson

what CBO report are you reading ? last i saw the projected cost of obamacare care rose fron 900mil to 1.7 TRILLION.

the point many have is we are already so far in debt that this POS legislation only makes it worse.

people are fed up with your nanny state bullshit.

is europe the civilized world you speak of ? seems to be working great !! cant wait to see how the progressives in california handle their bankruptcy.

xfocker wrote:

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Your huge loss today is only the beginning for you anarchists. People are fed up with your tea bagging bullshit.
Most of you are off pouting like a school kid who lost his best friend. You can't handle a loss - or the truth.
Yes - you did get taxed - boo-hoo and shame on you. It takes money to fund a program that provides healthcare for the less fortunate - it has to come from somewhere - I'm glad to pay a little more in taxes to have the majority of my fellow Americans covered and for us to catch up with the rest of the civilized countries who care about ALL their citizens.
You anarchists can take your greed-based "me" policies and shove them.
Furthermore, the CBO has projected that Obamacare will reduce the deficit by 1-2 trillion over the next 10 years - so eat that.

did-u-c-that wrote:

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Hell, we care about all our citizens and everyone elses. And, 1 trillion over the next 10 years isn't that much. Also, only those who don't get healthcare by 2014 will get taxed.

Did you care about the debt when Bush left office? I thought so. Whats a couple more trillion gonna hurt? Tell your old lady and kids to go out and find a job, maybe two jobs......you're gonna pay for this plan like I have to pay for useless 2 wars that I dont want to....... you cant have it both ways there Bucco!
Go shave your legs and douche real good you might laid tonight.
LMAO!