john 316

so what wrote:

is he related to the tuggles from paragould?

no...and the Tuggles don't own anything...not even the house they live in....It all belongs to John 3:16 Ministry and if it ever closes then all will be given to another Ministry.......how would you like to work 7 days a week and not own anything?

I dont know anyone who has went threw their program, but It seems to me that they teach all the guys to be proud that they are addicts. They all walk around town doing fundraiser and announcing they are from John 3:16, and the only thing I can think of when they tell me this is well so your an addict....I dont know..maybe Im wrong in my thinking...It just seems a lil much some times they way they flaunt it.

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What was the initial post about? Finding out if John 3:16 will work for drug rehabilitation or bad mouthing a program initiated to help those battling addiction find salvation through God?
Meth is such a powerful drug that one use can cause addiction. It is also so powerful that the only way to be saved from the addiction is through Christ Jesus. Jesus died on the cross for EVERYONE's sins, but we have to CHOSE to follow Him. He is such an awesome God that He has given us a choice. Please make the choice to seek salvation through Jesus, either through John 3:16 or a local church. No one is perfect, but if we seek to be like Jesus, He will reward us with eternal life.

Not to bash religion, but sometimes you need more than faith healing. Like good old honesty. Nothing takes away someone's addiction to anything but a powerful amount of self control, self reflection, and plain old staying out of sticky situations and away from sticky people.

They "graduate" this program, only the end up back in it later on... Now, that is the case with EVERY rehab or facility not designed to keep people there (yes, even prison!). That is because they teach you something, get you to pray daily about it, brainwash you, or whatever... and then you 'graduate' and (I'm assuming at this point people believe they're 'cured' of their addiction, which is more like a mental disorder or disease, not some temporary affliction, do the research) then they are thrown back into the REAL world where drugs, alcohol and scheming no good crooks are rampant.

They get back out, in with a lot like that (and sometimes they are sent places like certain mower companies and are bombarded on those job sites by people with drugs in their pockets at work!) and end up relapsing and the only solution John 3:16 seems to have is come back and become cheap and free labor for various places in town.

Does the place work? Sure, for some maybe even a good many. Is it a cure all? No, no rehab is.

It takes action and a conscious effort daily to arrest the never ending attempts addiction makes to ruin individuals lives.

Some are luckier than others and don't have it to the same degree, and therefor can leave a program like J 3:16 and be okay. No program is perfect. If they tell you it is, they're lying or don't know reality about addiction.

For some, the answer is God, others a 12 step program, for some still its just a threat from some judge.

Point is, there is no cure. There is no 'growing out of it' for an addict. They need something, and they need something daily. Not a program that throws you back to the wolves and assumes X amount of time is long enough for anyone.

That being said, can't comment on the place itself. I've talked with guys there who laugh about it, and some who thank it for giving them back sanity. I've seen guys get out and make no changes, and guys get out and never go back to the way they were.

Some even stay and help others. Some hinder.

Again, its not perfect, but the free labor (in a place that is starving for jobs and employment opportunities...) is a shame. There's just something un-American about bringing free labor into places where its not even needed, and disposing of honest jobs that could be providing men and women who have not fallen to addiction with a means to feed their families.

You dont get cured,or grow out of an addiction,you get DELEIVERED out of satans bondage thru the sweet blood of JESUS CHRIST!!!! You get picked up out of that miry clay an set on the SOLID ROCK!!!That is a miracle from HEAVEN above,an I'm a walking miracle!!!!Thank you JESUS!!!!!Been clean 5 years,happened instantly,the "want to" was gone!!!!!He's the only way folks,an I promise you he is ALL OVER John 3:16,lives are being changed,I know,my husband is there.It's an awesome place.GOD bless you.

Whether or not you believe in God, or Jesus, or whatever... You can't let someone or something else do it for you. They say God only helps those willing to help themselves. And those who don't believe in god say much the same.

There is no 'get out of jail free card' for addiction. There is no 'magic deliverance'... miracles take action, not 3-6 months at a 'boot camp' where actions and free will are not tempered but controlled.

I beg to differ,MIRACLES an DELIVERANCE happen every secound of every day!!!!And where in the BIBLE does it say GOD only helps those that help themselfs????I would love to read that if you can tell me where it's found,as I know lots of folks GOD helped,that didnt even want the help right then,but later saw it was a miracle.GOD BLESS YOU.GOD is GOD, he can do anything he wants to do.

look i go to church out at belivers with john 316 and luke 418 and ive seen the dramatic change they have been through and they are great programs helping the people that want help if you dont want to help your self then u cant get help at all you will never get clean unless you want to do it for you and nobody else if somebody wants you to get clean then 9 times out of 10 they wont get clean they have to want to do it you cant just be forced unless u goto jail. john 316 is a amazing program and they care about more than money maybe if yall would quite talking crap on the internet and actually try and go to one of there services u would be suprised at the things they talk about and the things they do to help there selves.

My husband is at John 3:16,an you are sooo right!!!! It is an amazing program,I attend church there every Sunday. My point was GOD delivered me instantly from my addiction of 27 years,been clean 5 years now.I had no intention of getting clean,but GOD had a different plan for my live,an he took the "want to" away from me!!! I am a walking miracle,thats what I meant when I said GOD helps people sometimes that dont even want it at the moment.GOD IS AWESOME!!!!GOD bless you an you have a great day in CHRIST!!!!!!!

informer for Jesus wrote:

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no...and the Tuggles don't own anything...not even the house they live in....It all belongs to John 3:16 Ministry and if it ever closes then all will be given to another Ministry.......how would you like to work 7 days a week and not own anything?

oh boo hoo!! i wouldn't have to own anything either if everything i needed was supplied for by donations!! i have seen the wastefulness of the tuggles.

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<quoted text>oh boo hoo!! i wouldn't have to own anything either if everything i needed was supplied for by donations!! i have seen the wastefulness of the tuggles.

can you list the wastefulness please.....??...

Topix like these make baby jesus cry

No they cant list the wastefulness,cause there is none.The Tuggles are wonderful people doing God's work,we should all be in constant prayer for them.

Well I'm on my way down there right now to see my husband an PRAISE THE LORD,an I cant wait.I love it there,the spirit is so EVERYWHERE down there!!!!The most awesome church service I'v ever been in.Praise the LORD for John 3:16 !!!!!!!!!!

If any of you have never been to a church service at John 3:16,I would encourage you to come, it is AWESOME!!!!Starts every Sunday morn. at 9:30.I promise you will not be dissapointed. God Bless You.

do they have a preacher out there to share the word or is just the men, etc?

Different ones of the 60 residents there take turns every Sunday, delievering the message, reading Scriptures, an saying a prayer. There are 60 preachers there, 61 counting Bryan. It's like an open discussion Church service, giving testimonies, Praise an Worship, special prayer request, an alter call. I guarentee you we have "CHURCH" out there!!!!! It's Awesome!!!!!!! Come join us, please. God Bless You.

informer for Jesus wrote:

do they have a preacher out there to share the word or is just the men, etc?

No there isnt a preacher out there...every week its the same thing each guy stands up and tells the people what he is thankful for, nothing more than that oh wait i forgot lots of music and videos

I thought they use to have a regular preacher out there to bring the word ...and not all are called of God to be preachers....to share the gospel, yes, but to be called of God to stand before a congregation and preach his word, no!unless Brian has confessed that the Lord has called him to be a preacher then I think he will tell you he is not a preacher.
I think its a great and spiritual place but I think once you go through the program you need to mature and take your family to a "church" which John 3:16 is not according to Brian Tuggle

Bryan Tuggle is a wonderful man, called to do God's work to which he is being obedient to. And so is Beverly. And no he does not call himself a preacher, but I sure get a message from him every Sunday !!!!!! There's not too many people like Bryan an Beverly in this world, an I thank God daily for the work they are doing!!!!!!!! They are doing an AWESOME job, God Bless You.