Memphis City Council, Discrimination, Resolution, Gay, Lesbian, Tra...

Babyshoe wrote:

Oh my as I sit and read through this entire jungle of nastiness I am left wondering where my civil rights stand at this moment .....not what religion any of us are, not even what your sexual preference is, was , will be, not if any of us is damned by our god, not if anyone is right or wrong in their beliefs ....but I do wonder what has happened to the humanity in Memphis and area's around us. I worry now if my children are safe with anyone here and if I need to worry if my grandchildren will be safe around anyone here. I have read very few uplifting, forgiving , understanding, tolerant, words written here just people trying to make their ideas understood by bludgeoning each other over the head with such ugly nasty things said about and to one another I am ashamed that the people of this city have come to this type of behavior. Christians who are judging, people who say they stand for civil rights, all of you allowing yourselves to be brought to this level of nastiness is ......just a shame

there are some who, for whatever reason, do not discuss or debate ideas in a civil manner. evidently this is noted throughout our history; sadly it seems to be increasing.

Gay Mom wrote:

Churches that embrace this attitude are fundamentally unchristian. Jesus said , "love your neighbor" and they definitely do not.

Has nothing to do with being love. It has to do with being qualified for a job or a promotion. Why do you think you do have to follow the same rules as the rest of us? If you want something, work for it like everyone else. It shouldn't be given to you just becasue of your bedroom preferances.

the bottom line here is most americans just dont condone the gay lifestyle , its chilling to even think about , cmon 2 guys walking down the street embraced ? now how many folks want thier kids seeing that ? not many ! thank god my son dates a cheerleader !

this wack job who calls theself not a bigot is some loser living at home eating hot pockets by the dozen and condening normal behavior because they have never had a date and hate being on the fringe of society so they lash back at the people who are living the american dream out of pure envy ! that about right ? NOT A BIGOT ?

abbey wrote:

the bottom line here is most americans just dont condone the gay lifestyle , its chilling to even think about , cmon 2 guys walking down the street embraced ? now how many folks want thier kids seeing that ? not many ! thank god my son dates a cheerleader !

It doesn't matter what most Americans think. Most Americans are uneducated.

Mona Lott wrote:

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It doesn't matter what most Americans think. Most Americans are uneducated.

so let me see if i have this correct ? if i become educated like you , i also become immoral ? ill just stay my dumb old FEMALE loving self , ok mona ?

tyler wrote:

<quoted text>so let me see if i have this correct ? if i become educated like you , i also become immoral ? ill just stay my dumb old FEMALE loving self , ok mona ?

Stay dumb, then. C U Next Tuesday.

abbey wrote:

the bottom line here is most americans just dont condone the gay lifestyle , its chilling to even think about , cmon 2 guys walking down the street embraced ? now how many folks want thier kids seeing that ? not many ! thank god my son dates a cheerleader !

Yes, the bottom line is that throughout our history some Americans have been against women's rights, civil rights, inter-racial dating, and as now gay rights. It starts with a majority but as people's awareness is raised, changes come about. Wasn't the bible used in those other cases as well? I'm trying to find which passages were used for the other groups.

Oh, and especially in this part of the country, kids probably will be dating to be seen fitting in, while learning about themselves. I wouldn't go by that, but then I'd support my kid either way. I doubt if most really come OUT til later on.

abbey wrote:

the bottom line here is most americans just dont condone the gay lifestyle , its chilling to even think about , cmon 2 guys walking down the street embraced ? now how many folks want thier kids seeing that ? not many ! thank god my son dates a cheerleader !

Dear Abbey.. bet they(gays) can spell better than your uneducated bigot @$$!

ultra con wrote:

this wack job who calls theself not a bigot is some loser living at home eating hot pockets by the dozen and condening normal behavior because they have never had a date and hate being on the fringe of society so they lash back at the people who are living the american dream out of pure envy ! that about right ? NOT A BIGOT ?

Well>>>I have a life, a job, a girlfriend, a dog, and FINALLY A COLLEGE EDUCATION!!
WHAT THE HELL DOES CONDENING MEAN? SCREW OFF INBRED FUCKTARD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Transsexual Beaten By Memphis Police Found Dead

A transsexual who filed a lawsuit against the Memphis police after a February beating at the hands of an officer, was found shot to death in North Memphis late Sunday.
http://sandrarose.com/2008/11/transsexual-bea...

Mistrial declared in police beating case involving transgender prisoner
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/apr...
After four days and about 20 hours of deliberations, a weary federal court jury on Monday announced for a second time that it was deadlocked in the case of a former Memphis police officer accused of beating a transgender prisoner in 2008

One female juror, who asked not to be identified, said later that the verdict was 11-1 in favor of guilty.

McRae, who carried a Bible on Monday, said he was placing his faith in God. He faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted.

Another Trans Woman of Color Shot in Memphis
http://likeawhisper.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/...

Denton is the 5th trans woman, 4 of whom were African American twoc, to be shot in the area in 2 years. Hate crimes in the state have gone up 38% this year and slightly less than half of that increase is against GLBTQ people.

The TN Transgender Political Coalition is also once again calling for the State Legislature to pass an amendment to civil rights law for the state that would include “gender identity or expression” in protected status alongside race, gender, religion, sexuality, etc.

Willie Houston, of Memphis TN, murdered because someone thought he was gay..

We recognize that few people are abused, harassed, beaten, or murdered solely because of their sex or sexual orientation but because they are perceived as violating the socially prescribed gender for their anatomical sex- of males being insufficiently masculine, etc. This is the common thread uniting violence against women, gays and lesbians, and transfolk.1

A tragic example: in 2001 Willie Houston of Memphis, Tennessee was shot dead because his murderer believed him to be gay. Mr. Houston had just stepped off the Opry Mills music showboat and was holding his fiancee's purse while he helped a blind friend into the men's room. His attacker shouted anti-gay epithets, chased Houston to a parking lot, and shot him in the chest while Houston tried to reason with him.2 Willie Houston was not murdered because of his sex (male) or sexual orientation (heterosexual) but because he was perceived to be doing a form of gender (femininity) inappropriate for his sex.


Willie Houston was the victim of a gay bashing even though he was not homosexual; he was the victim of gender-based violence even though he was not female. His murder illustrates an important truth about gender-based violence: though males represent the overwhelming number of perpetrators and victims of violence, it is not being male that's the problem. The problem is subscription to a culturally dominant form of masculinity that celebrates violence and enforces conformity through the threat of physical violence: taunting, bullying, assault, murder.

http://www.faqs.org/periodicals/201001/196446...

Churches Say City Non-Discrimination Resolution Is Dangerous
From the article of this thread.

“During Sunday service Bellevue Baptist Church Pastor Steve Gaines urged the congregation to tell their council members to vote no .
Gaines said the resolution is dangerous and a big concern since there is no exemption for churches that might do business with the city.

Just what is he afraid of?”
Gains needs to worry about his own problems….
Assistant DA Says Pastor's Failure to Report Sex Abuse Could Be a Crime
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php...
An assistant prosecutor said Bellevue Baptist Church Pastor Steve Gaines may have committed a crime if he knew the "moral failure" a church staff member confessed to him six months ago involved child molestation.

All 50 states have laws requiring mandatory reporting of suspected child sexual abuse. Tennessee requires any person, including ministers, with reasonable suspicion that abuse of a child has occurred to report it immediately.
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Bellevue Investigates Minister for 'Moral Failure'
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php...

"Whatever the reasons for why Gaines chose to protect Williams instead of protecting kids, they aren't good enough," she said.
 Brown said "a dog may get one bite, but a minister doesn't get one kid," adding that Williams "should have been removed from ministry and reported to the police immediately."
 "When it comes to child sex abuse, once is more than enough," Brown said. "You don't wait to see if it's going to happen again."

The murder against Willie Houston happened in Nashville, TN. It didn't happen in Memphis, TN. It was very sad when that happened many years ago.

Atlanta Resident wrote:

The murder against Willie Houston happened in Nashville, TN. It didn't happen in Memphis, TN. It was very sad when that happened many years ago.

Thank you, you are very correct Atlanta Resident!

I didn't catch that when I looked up the article...