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• The Koran states that all Muslims must fight
until there is no worship but that of Allah (Koran
2:193; 8:39).
• Christians and Jews must be exterminated (Koran
2:193; 9:5, 29-30).
• Those who convert to Christianity or leave the
Islamic religion for any reason, must be killed
(Koran 4:91).
Muhammad said,“Whosoever changes his religion, kill
him”(Al-Bukhari 9:57).
• Those who criticize Islam must be killed (Koran
9:12; 45:9).
• Those who cut off the heads of infidels are guaranteed
of paradise (Koran 47:4-6).
• By killing, one is following the example of Muhammad
who killed as well (Koran 33:21).
• The prophets of Islam are to promote terrorism
(Koran 17:59).
• As it regards all of this, symbolically, the modern
State of Israel stands as a constant reminder to
rabid fundamentalist Muslims of their humiliation
before infidels — a condition that can only
be remedied through conquest
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THE VIEW OF HEAVEN IN THE KORAN
• Koran 44:51-59 says that large-eyed virgins are
awaiting Muslims in Heaven.
• It says the female virgins will have large “swelling
breasts”(Koran 78:31-35).
• In Heaven the virginity of these women, according
to the Koran, will be automatically restored after
each encounter (Koran 56:35).
• Men in paradise will recline on couches surrounded
by fruit, meats, and beautiful women (Koran
52:16-22).
• The Koran says that Muslim men in Heaven will
have a virtual assortment of sex, in other words,
whatever is desired (Koran 55:62-77).
• In the Hadith, it is said that men will have the
availability of 72 virgins and, in fact, there will
also be a free sex market for both men and women
(Hadith Al Hadis Vol. 4, P. 172, No. 34).
• The Koran claims that in Heaven men will enjoy
a fountain of wine, which they can enjoy without
ever getting drunk (Koran 37:45).
• The Koran also states that those who wish for the
pleasure of young boys will find many in paradise
(Koran 76:19).
HOLY WAR?
Holy?
• The Koran states that all Muslims must fight
until there is no worship but that of Allah (Koran
2:193; 8:39).
• Christians and Jews must be exterminated (Koran
2:193; 9:5, 29-30).
• Those who convert to Christianity or leave the
Islamic religion for any reason, must be killed
(Koran 4:91).
Muhammad said,“Whosoever changes his religion, kill
him”(Al-Bukhari 9:57).
• Those who criticize Islam must be killed (Koran
9:12; 45:9).
• Those who cut off the heads of infidels are guaranteed
of paradise (Koran 47:4-6).
• By killing, one is following the example of Muhammad
who killed as well (Koran 33:21).
• The prophets of Islam are to promote terrorism
(Koran 17:59).
• As it regards all of this, symbolically, the modern
State of Israel stands as a constant reminder to
rabid fundamentalist Muslims of their humiliation
before infidels — a condition that can only
be remedied through conquest.
RELIGIOUS DOMINANCE
The issue of land in the Middle East, namely Israel,
while very important, is not primarily the great question.
The great question concerns religious dominance — the
lack of which is intolerable to the Muslim who is taught
that Allah is all and is to possess all.
An abiding tenet of Islam is that all lands are to be
subject to Allah. Therefore, once a territory is taken, it
must remain under Muslim domination. If land is lost,
holy war (Jihad) becomes necessary. Any concessions or
treaties made with enemies under conditions making it
impossible to restore dominion by force are observed only
until means are available to remedy the situation.
For this reason, as Arab spokesmen have repeatedly
avowed, any negotiated peace agreement with Israel
will only provide a staging area from which to pursue
total elimination of the Jewish presence from land
claimed to be sacred to Allah. Hence, the negotiations
and peace treaties with the Palestinians regarding the
Gaza Strip, Jericho, and the West Bank should be looked
at accordingly.
In such a perpetual state of conflict, Israelis know
all too well that the Western World must learn or live to
regret — survival against the Muslim onslaught means
having a superior strength and the will to use it.
MUSLIM EVANGELISM
The Muslims, beyond the shadow of a doubt, are bent
T “The word ‘Jihad’ is one of the great words
of the Muslim vocabulary.
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In France, Islam ranks second only to Catholicism.
England has received such a massive influx of Muslims,
so many, in fact, that the face of the landscape has literally
changed. In 1945, there was one Mosque in England;
in 2007, there are over 3,000. In fact, London is the site
of the largest Mosque in Western Europe. The story is
the same in North America.
The first Mosque in the United States was built in
Cedar Rapids, Iowa, in 1934. In 1989, there were approximately
700 Mosques in the United States. Presently
(2007) there are well over 2,000.
Muslims lay claim to some 10 million adherents to
Islam in North America, drawn mostly from the black
population. Actually, these converts to Islam in America
call Christianity “the white man’s religion,” while Islam is
called “the black man’s religion.” In 1989, the Muslims
boasted that they would soon surpass the Jewish population
in this country of 7 million. They have reached
their goal.
Some years ago, Dr. Ishmael Faruqui, challenged
Muslims to pursue a goal of 50 million to 75 million new
American converts to Islam. He said,“Only from massive
conversion can we hope to elect Muslim politicians, appoint
Muslim judges, and incorporate Shariah law into the judicial
system of America. We must transcend our minority status
to make Islam a dominant force in America and the West.”
In the face of this, a point to ponder is the fact that
students from Islam countries now form the largest group
of international students in North American universities
and colleges.

Still think Islam is a peace loving religion?
It is absurd
Really

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Jun 18, 2011
 
Now I have to believe that you are no better than "Kronk" by putting your hate on here. He does it against those of our faith, "Christianity", and now you do it against the Islam faith.

Don't believe everything you read. I went to many of those passages listed and they were taken way out of context. Did you happen to do any research on these passages before you decided to post them?

http://www.asksam.com/ebooks/releases.asp...

Also, would it have not been easier to just post the link that you copy and pasted all of this from?

http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/reli...

As Christians we should be following Jesus' example and preaching love, not hate.
watchman

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Really wrote:
http://www.asksam.com/ebooks/releases.asp...
Also, would it have not been easier to just post the link that you copy and pasted all of this from?
http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/reli...
As Christians we should be following Jesus' example and preaching love, not hate.
warning don't click on links...its a viris
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watchman wrote:
THE VIEW OF HEAVEN IN THE KORAN
• Koran 44:51-59 says that large-eyed virgins are
awaiting Muslims in Heaven.
• It says the female virgins will have large “swelling
breasts”(Koran 78:31-35).
• In Heaven the virginity of these women, according
to the Koran, will be automatically restored after
each encounter (Koran 56:35).
• Men in paradise will recline on couches surrounded
by fruit, meats, and beautiful women (Koran
52:16-22).
• The Koran says that Muslim men in Heaven will
have a virtual assortment of sex, in other words,
whatever is desired (Koran 55:62-77).
• In the Hadith, it is said that men will have the
availability of 72 virgins and, in fact, there will
also be a free sex market for both men and women
(Hadith Al Hadis Vol. 4, P. 172, No. 34).
• The Koran claims that in Heaven men will enjoy
a fountain of wine, which they can enjoy without
ever getting drunk (Koran 37:45).
• The Koran also states that those who wish for the
pleasure of young boys will find many in paradise
(Koran 76:19).
HOLY WAR?
Holy?
• The Koran states that all Muslims must fight
until there is no worship but that of Allah (Koran
2:193; 8:39).
• Christians and Jews must be exterminated (Koran
2:193; 9:5, 29-30).
• Those who convert to Christianity or leave the
Islamic religion for any reason, must be killed
(Koran 4:91).
Muhammad said,“Whosoever changes his religion, kill
him”(Al-Bukhari 9:57).
• Those who criticize Islam must be killed (Koran
9:12; 45:9).
• Those who cut off the heads of infidels are guaranteed
of paradise (Koran 47:4-6).
• By killing, one is following the example of Muhammad
who killed as well (Koran 33:21).
• The prophets of Islam are to promote terrorism
(Koran 17:59).
• As it regards all of this, symbolically, the modern
State of Israel stands as a constant reminder to
rabid fundamentalist Muslims of their humiliation
before infidels — a condition that can only
be remedied through conquest.
RELIGIOUS DOMINANCE
The issue of land in the Middle East, namely Israel,
while very important, is not primarily the great question.
The great question concerns religious dominance — the
lack of which is intolerable to the Muslim who is taught
that Allah is all and is to possess all.
An abiding tenet of Islam is that all lands are to be
subject to Allah. Therefore, once a territory is taken, it
must remain under Muslim domination. If land is lost,
holy war (Jihad) becomes necessary. Any concessions or
treaties made with enemies under conditions making it
impossible to restore dominion by force are observed only
until means are available to remedy the situation.
For this reason, as Arab spokesmen have repeatedly
avowed, any negotiated peace agreement with Israel
will only provide a staging area from which to pursue
total elimination of the Jewish presence from land
claimed to be sacred to Allah. Hence, the negotiations
and peace treaties with the Palestinians regarding the
Gaza Strip, Jericho, and the West Bank should be looked
at accordingly.
In such a perpetual state of conflict, Israelis know
all too well that the Western World must learn or live to
regret — survival against the Muslim onslaught means
having a superior strength and the will to use it.
MUSLIM EVANGELISM
The Muslims, beyond the shadow of a doubt, are bent
T “The word ‘Jihad’ is one of the great words
of the Muslim vocabulary.
Come to Independence, where you can find these same virginal women at Turbos. A few beers and they'll have you believing your virginity has been restored, too.
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Jun 18, 2011
 
watchman wrote:
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warning don't click on links...its a viris
OK who is using my moniker?
watchman

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Jun 18, 2011
 
Really wrote:
Now I have to believe that you are no better than "Kronk" by putting your hate on here. He does it against those of our faith, "Christianity", and now you do it against the Islam faith.
Don't believe everything you read. I went to many of those passages listed and they were taken way out of context. Did you happen to do any research on these passages before you decided to post them?
http://www.asksam.com/ebooks/releases.asp...
Also, would it have not been easier to just post the link that you copy and pasted all of this from?
http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/reli...
As Christians we should be following Jesus' example and preaching love, not hate.
Who is preaching hate? I am glad to see you are a fan of Francis and Friends. I did not paste all because it would have taken the whole magazine...do you read it? I read a lot of Christian books. Watch lot of shows. Whats wrong with that? Research? Islam is from Ishmael..the hand maidens son and Abraham. Sarah bore the King...Issiac. That is the truth. Islam is pagan. I don't say it in hate, it is found in the Bible. Are you calling God a liar?
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FYI I urge all to read the links...good reading and wonderful magazine. Whomever used my name.....poor pitiful soul that you are, you need to get saved.
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I agree. You read too much crap and it muddles the truth of the Gospel. Thats why so many are deceived, don't believe, make fun of and persocute. Pretty sad too. I'm a young adult and I have been saved and baptised for a few years now and it is wonderful to know the Lord.
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I have read the Bible extensively. In fact, I have researched the world's five major religions and several of the "lesser" religions. I was married to a "good Christian man" who was abusive beyond all words. I would rather be "yoked" to a heathen, pagan, agnostic or atheist who was a good person than a "Christian" that was horrible the majority of the time just because he could repent on Sunday.
I am not saying there are not good Christian men out there, but I am speaking from personal experience
Under "Where are all the good men?

Anne:
You posted this...I wonder if you are just sour in general at all men and God for the failures you have endured

“Better listen the first time”

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I have read the Bible extensively. In fact, I have researched the world's five major religions and several of the "lesser" religions. I was married to a "good Christian man" who was abusive beyond all words. I would rather be "yoked" to a heathen, pagan, agnostic or atheist who was a good person than a "Christian" that was horrible the majority of the time just because he could repent on Sunday.
I am not saying there are not good Christian men out there, but I am speaking from personal experience
Under "Where are all the good men?
Anne:
You posted this...I wonder if you are just sour in general at all men and God for the failures you have endured
YOu copy and pasted her post..Did you fail to read this part?{"I am not saying there are not good Christian men out there, but I am speaking from personal experience."}

Or was this just a snide remark that you thought was some kind of intellectual point?

I would think if she were "sour in general" her postings would reflect that..In reading Annes posting ever since she started on topix..I have never seen her as "sour", but rather engaging,sweet,funny and someone to be admired even if her poilitics and mine seem to be opposing forces sometimes...

I'd say take her thoughts and posts in the entirety before nit picking one post to make some kind of snide remark..

BTW, Anne has not even been on this thread... So why would you even bring her up? Guess that shows you for what you are...A rather SOUR individual who was put in their place by Anne at some point...

IMHO>>>>>

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Jun 18, 2011
 
Did someone mention my name? LOL

Anyway, Bob, in response to your inquiry:
I am not "sour" towards men, nor am I "sour" towards God. I am "sour" towards people who claim a belief system, yet are hypocritical in following their beliefs. I guess I am "sour" towards religion, but never sour against spirituality, which transcends man-made religions.
As for failures? I was not the one who failed, my ex husband was the one who failed.

As for the Qu'ran, which is the topic of this thread - it is a matter of interpretation, just like any other religious text, and can be taken out of context, just like any other religious text.

(PS Thank you, Hi Lee!)
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Who is preaching hate? I am glad to see you are a fan of Francis and Friends. I did not paste all because it would have taken the whole magazine...do you read it? I read a lot of Christian books. Watch lot of shows. Whats wrong with that? Research? Islam is from Ishmael..the hand maidens son and Abraham. Sarah bore the King...Issiac. That is the truth. Islam is pagan. I don't say it in hate, it is found in the Bible. Are you calling God a liar?
When you misquote something, even the Koran, you are doing it with an agenda. This topic was started with nothing but mailice toward the Islam religion in mind. As far as reading lots of Christian books or watching Christian shows, no there is nothing wrong with that. But when it turns into extremism like Phelps and his followers then there is something wrong with it and this is pure extremism.

You don't believe me? Read the last statement in Post #3 where you ask, "Still think Islam is a peace loving religion?" and then state "It is absurd".

Also, where do you get off lying and saying the links I posted were a virus? You couldn't defend what you posted so you have to lie to try to stop people from looking those passages up for themselves?

http://www.asksam.com/ebooks/releases.asp...
http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/reli...

If you want to be a good Christian, then why not tell people what is good about our religion instead of trying to attack others? You are not going to get anywhere posting as an anonymous person on a public topic and preach hate.
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That was taken from the thread about your post.....utube is full of viruses...You feel vindicated now? btw you are anon as well
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ALl I posted was some of the belief systems of the islam extremists. Dang me, hang me, gee manee Christmas. You folks are to extreem for me.

http://www.asksam.com/ebooks/releases.asp ...
http://www.francesandfriends.com/content/reli ...

here are the links.
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watchman wrote:
That was taken from the thread about your post.....utube is full of viruses...You feel vindicated now? btw you are anon as well
Yes I am anonymous, but I am not preaching hatred toward others or trying to get someone to change their way of thinking. When we preach hatred or at the very least intolerance toward others than we are doing Christianity and the Lord an injustice.

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<quoted text>Yes I am anonymous, but I am not preaching hatred toward others or trying to get someone to change their way of thinking. When we preach hatred or at the very least intolerance toward others than we are doing Christianity and the Lord an injustice.
The Lord God states in great detail what He considers abominable. That is quite different from a sin. Jesus Himself acclaimed justified anger...also did not God Himself show His wrath on Sodom and Ghommorah? There are several incidents in the Bible of God showing His wrath toward unrepentant sinners and mockers. Noah, Jacob, Even Saul, later named PAUL) waspunished and tested and shown mercy and became one of the greatest apostiles.
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• The Koran states that all Muslims must fight
until there is no worship but that of Allah (Koran
2:193; 8:39).
• Christians and Jews must be exterminated (Koran
2:193; 9:5, 29-30).
It's quite amusing you copy and pasted this Muslim hit piece from Jimmy Swaggart's website. I remember this hypocrite's downfall quite vividly and his infamous "I Have Sinned" speech. So why do you even care what this whoremonger says?

Second, I could construct the exact same hit piece against the Bible because both religions arose from the same Ancient Semitic peoples.

One example is plural marriage. The guidelines are spelled out in the Old Testament: "If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights..." This is exactly what is found in Sharia Law of the Muslims which is why Osama Bin Laden had several wives.

So if you reject Islam, you must also reject Judaism and Christianity. It's the only logical conclusion because the three are bonded together by Abraham.
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a republican is just a muslim turned wrong side out

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