St. Charles East student, 16, charged with making bomb threats

Put all these delinquents in jail and leave them for a couple weeks, or months. They have to learn they cannot get away with this kind of stuff. If their parents don't want to teach them right, the prison system will.

Grrrrrr wrote:

Put all these delinquents in jail and leave them for a couple weeks, or months. They have to learn they cannot get away with this kind of stuff. If their parents don't want to teach them right, the prison system will.

Are "you" threatening "delinquents" with jail? Put pen to paper but read what you've written before posting. Your statement may be as intimidating as this kid's "scrawling".

Hair Trigger wrote:

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Are "you" threatening "delinquents" with jail? Put pen to paper but read what you've written before posting. Your statement may be as intimidating as this kid's "scrawling".

He's not "threatening" anybody, but STATING these kids, WHO ARE threatening the safety of people, should be, if found guilty, serve some type of punishment. And to say his statement is as intimidating as the bomb threat scrawling is a real poor comparison, actually it's laughable. Just two days ago at my son's high school, some freakin" idiot sent a letter to the school district threatening the prom with an act of violence, and guess what? The prom will go on... the "deliquent" didn't win... but the prom now has to have a strong police presence, metal detectors, and pat downs. Nervous parents? You bet. So don't tell me and the previous author that his suggestion of sending these kids for punishment is as threatening as the "scribble" on a bathroom wall. Get real. What, a slap on the wrist and back to mom and dad? I hope they catch every one of these kids, before they turn into the "deliquents" that YOU hear about going into a college one day....

I just wish the Trib won't block us from writing on other stories, in particular the ones involving gangs, illegals, and certain politicians. That's why I hate this news organization.

Hey hair trigger are we supposed protect these little
bastards is that what you are saying. Grrrr had a good point, maybe these punks need to go to jail,they think there so tough wait till they get behind bars with some of these inmates.There little punk assess aint gonna know what hit em.

Steve wrote:

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He's not "threatening" anybody, but STATING these kids, WHO ARE threatening the safety of people, should be, if found guilty, serve some type of punishment. And to say his statement is as intimidating as the bomb threat scrawling is a real poor comparison, actually it's laughable. Just two days ago at my son's high school, some freakin" idiot sent a letter to the school district threatening the prom with an act of violence, and guess what? The prom will go on... the "deliquent" didn't win... but the prom now has to have a strong police presence, metal detectors, and pat downs. Nervous parents? You bet. So don't tell me and the previous author that his suggestion of sending these kids for punishment is as threatening as the "scribble" on a bathroom wall. Get real. What, a slap on the wrist and back to mom and dad? I hope they catch every one of these kids, before they turn into the "deliquents" that YOU hear about going into a college one day....

Okay "Mr. As-Threatening". I guess you're the gage by which all threats are measured. Maybe not you, or in even in your lifetime, but I can foresee kids in your charge growing up to be, say, "book burners"? That's where paranoia gets ya. See, in the eyes of a child our intolerance doesn't breed intolerance, it breeds revenge, in a Columbine sort a way . So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hope you and your family make it.

Steve, thanks for that info. My son also goes to that high school and I didnt know the details. How scary!

Nancy B wrote:

Hey hair trigger are we supposed protect these little
bastards is that what you are saying. Grrrr had a good point, maybe these punks need to go to jail,they think there so tough wait till they get behind bars with some of these inmates.There little punk assess aint gonna know what hit em.

Protect what, bathroom wall scrawlers? This country better start rethinking when a crime really becomes a crime! Just thinking about it? I was born, luckily not raised too long in Czechoslovakia. You know, where neighbors tuned in neighbors as enemies of the state. If you think it isn't coming to that here this article is a testament to it. Up until 1980 just "thinking it" in an Iron Curtain Country got you jailed, or worse. And look at us now. "Paranoia will destroy ya", The Kinks.

Hair Trigger wrote:

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Okay "Mr. As-Threatening". I guess you're the gage by which all threats are measured. Maybe not you, or in even in your lifetime, but I can foresee kids in your charge growing up to be, say, "book burners"? That's where paranoia gets ya. See, in the eyes of a child our intolerance doesn't breed intolerance, it breeds revenge, in a Columbine sort a way . So, I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hope you and your family make it.

If we followed your gage, you'd let everybody out on parole, wouldn't you? I'm INTOLERANT by not supporting your view that society should let kids like this off the hook? This has nothing to do with paranoia but the FACTS. These kids made a threat to their high school. It's not revenge, it's called a society having laws that protect innocent people from the idiots that are out there. Get out from under your rock and realize the utopia you hope for isn't going to happen. Maybe it's there in New Mexico...God bless you (if you believe in God. Sorry to "offend" you if you don't). For those who break the law, there is punishment .. a punishment that, like it or not, puts away BAD PEOPLE. I wonder if you'd have this simplistic view if your kid was blown up in a high school or shot on a college campus. Intolerance breeding revenge? You gotta be kidding me. Tell me.. rapists, murderers, child molesters...should I tolerate them? Putting them away is "revenge"? I'll "make it" as you say, don't worry.. it's you and people like you that tolerate everything that will find themselves struggling to make it one day.

Nice mom wrote:

Steve, thanks for that info. My son also goes to that high school and I didnt know the details. How scary!

It's too bad the prom will have this hanging over it.

Hair Trigger wrote:

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Protect what, bathroom wall scrawlers? This country better start rethinking when a crime really becomes a crime! Just thinking about it? I was born, luckily not raised too long in Czechoslovakia. You know, where neighbors tuned in neighbors as enemies of the state. If you think it isn't coming to that here this article is a testament to it. Up until 1980 just "thinking it" in an Iron Curtain Country got you jailed, or worse. And look at us now. "Paranoia will destroy ya", The Kinks.

A man walks into an airline bathroom and sees the words "I have an explosive device on board" written on the mirror in lipstick and reports it the the crew. The plane lands, and they find the person who wrote it. Should he not be arrested because the plane didn't blow up? Nobody was 'thinking' about anything..they wrote it in a public place and threatened innocent people. No government can arrest you for wahat you "think".. it's what you DO that gets you in trouble. You know the story, a man yells "FIRE" in a crowded theater..there's no fire..but 25 people die in the stampede. Freedom of speech right? To my New Mexico friend, that person walks out free, goes home, tucks himself into bed and sleeps well. To me, that person spends years in prison, because he caused 25 people to die.. but I am the intolerant one, aren't I ?

I am not a male. A bomb threat, whether written or vocalized has to be taken seriously. Perhaps you don't have the problems in NM schools that we have here in Illinois, but these punks have to learn that they can't get away with their "pranks". Liberal thinking people that let these kids get away with nothing but a slap on the hand are the reason that crime has gotten so prevalent in this country. Parents that do not raise their children correctly should be punished too. They, in the least, need parenting classes and not one given by other liberals that have the same warped way of thinking. Bomb threat scrawlers today, bomb makers tomorrow.

Steve wrote:

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A man walks into an airline bathroom and sees the words "I have an explosive device on board" written on the mirror in lipstick and reports it the the crew. The plane lands, and they find the person who wrote it. Should he not be arrested because the plane didn't blow up? Nobody was 'thinking' about anything..they wrote it in a public place and threatened innocent people. No government can arrest you for wahat you "think".. it's what you DO that gets you in trouble. You know the story, a man yells "FIRE" in a crowded theater..there's no fire..but 25 people die in the stampede. Freedom of speech right? To my New Mexico friend, that person walks out free, goes home, tucks himself into bed and sleeps well. To me, that person spends years in prison, because he caused 25 people to die.. but I am the intolerant one, aren't I ?

Steve, under the circumstances you've described I will agree with your logic 100%. But what you need to focus on here and my point throughout this thread is the fact that given your scenario there was direct "bodily harm" as a result. You had a "did happen", not a "might or could happen" Again, and I can't emphasize enough that for a crime to be a crime there has to be tangible, significant, ill result. In any event, I'll stop now while I'm "not ahead", being as none of us actually know what was scrawled anyway. Also, I'm not standing on a tall horse here in NM, just moved after 43 years in Chicago.

Hair Trigger wrote:

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Steve, under the circumstances you've described I will agree with your logic 100%. But what you need to focus on here and my point throughout this thread is the fact that given your scenario there was direct "bodily harm" as a result. You had a "did happen", not a "might or could happen" Again, and I can't emphasize enough that for a crime to be a crime there has to be tangible, significant, ill result. In any event, I'll stop now while I'm "not ahead", being as none of us actually know what was scrawled anyway. Also, I'm not standing on a tall horse here in NM, just moved after 43 years in Chicago.

Last comment for me also: I'm not a lawyer, but when you say: "..that for a crime to be a crime there has to be tangible,significant, ill result." you are really way off. First thing that comes to mind: It's against the law to threaten the life of the President.

As David MacGregor wrote: "In the same way, my freedom of speech ends where it can be shown to be either denying someone else's freedom of speech, or freedom of action."

The "scrawling" in the bathroom was a direct denial to the freedom of action in the kids in that school as well as the kids in my community, who two days ago were threatened with violence at their prom dance by a letter sent to the school board. And we do know what was scrawled: a bomb threat (it's the headline).

Later....