xyz

Tulsa, OK

#81 Feb 21, 2009
Let it go. Don't you all have anything better to do. Be with your families and enjoy them instead of hashing and rehashing stories. If the Mullendores would of wanted the murder out in the open it would of been. I respect their privacy. Do you ?
xyz

Tulsa, OK

#82 Feb 21, 2009
By the way George Wayman is dead.
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#83 Feb 21, 2009
I am sorry about George Wayman. He was a good man from everything I heard & read . I did not know him personally. We had several conversations in the past by phone. I knew he was old & he did want this case solved. He felt like he knew for sure, due to evidence, that Chub did it. I deeply wanted him to have a confession before he passed away. You have to get in the mind of law enforcement to understand the profound repercussions of an unsolved crime that you personally were involed with. Of course you wnat it solved. It is closure & knowing you did your job.
I do respect the Mullendore family. My husband's father was murdered, shot in the head along with another man who just happened to be in a store. The men that commited the crime were caught. I assumed the Mullendore's wanted the same,even if it is painful. I realize life goes on and they have done so. Just thought maybe if the truth finally came out everyone would rest easier.
belfordwest

United States

#84 Feb 22, 2009
George Wayman is not (repeat) not dead ! Just talk to him the other day.
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#85 Feb 22, 2009
belfordwest wrote:
George Wayman is not (repeat) not dead ! Just talk to him the other day.
Thank you for that information. The last time I talked to him by phone was the day after his birthday he was eating cake! I had talked to him before. He and his wife were so gracious. He had,has, a very sharp mind. He gave me some details of that night and was sure he knew who did it.He is not bitter and the incident has not taken over his life. I thought what a great gift to have this solved for him & others!
Justin

Alva, OK

#86 Feb 23, 2009
You people need to get a life, trying to solve a 38 year old murder case is like trying to stop the out of control home forclosures. Who gives a damn if Chub did it or if Billy was wearing a stolen ring around. I just have one question to all you "detectives", why have you not questioned the surviving family? I think I know why; they would probably tell you to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. The family obviously does not want nosy people poking in their business. I cant wait to hear the comments from people with nothing better in their lives to do.
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#87 Feb 23, 2009
Justin, The Mullendore family can choose to read, or not read this website. Just like you can turn a television on or off. I do not agree with your analysis of the government & home foreclosures to murder.
I am a stranger and I give a damn about a murder that happened 38 years ago. I give a damn every time justice is not served! Is your father still alive? If he had been murdered 38 years ago , or anyone else you loved, would you not give a damn?
I understand the Mullendore family not wanting to be on a public forum. But would they object, if by some chance ,this case were solved?
mystery fan

Claremore, OK

#88 Feb 23, 2009
Carolyn, I have not contacted the funeral home yet. Plan to this week. For those of you who have a problem with us "detectives" who want to see this murder solved, you don't understand how deep this case goes. There are hundreds of unsolved murders in Osage County that no one ever hears about on state or national news. People like Billy Mitchell and others in law enforcement there have bullied the people of Osage County for dozens of years and have gotten away with it. There are a number of innocent people in PRISON, I repeat PRISON, for LIFE, SOME HAVE LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE!! away from their families, unable to have a normal life, not able to see their kids grow up, etc. that were put there by corrupt people like Mitchell and maybe even George Wayman, who need to have cases like the Mullendore case exposed and solved. I believe if this case were actually solved, a whole lot more would come bubbling to the top of this deep barrel in Osage County that contains a lot of information that is pointing to a handful of people who have gotten away with murder in Osage County. This has been going on long enough. It needs to be exposed. Do a little investigation on your own and find out what you can about Osage County. If you talk to people in the County (and I have, lots of them), you will get a whole new perspective on these unsolved murders. SOMEONE GOT AWAY WITH MURDER. Was it someone that people should be able to trust? Was it someone who is still over there? Is it someone who has passed their secrets and "poisons" on to other people who are currently in positions of authority there? How can anyone who has knowledge of these things just let them go and let innocent people suffer for something they didn't do because a few corrupt people are power hungry and greedy? Check into what I have said. You will find it to be true. Billy Mitchell caused so much grief and terror when he was a deputy sheriff in Osage County, he needs to be exposed, even if he isn't there anymore.(I believe he lives in Broken Arrow now.) He was connected to the Mullendore case. There were young girls who disappeared and were never heard from again, young girls who were molested and raped during the time he was in law enforcement. This was common knowledge among the people. Ask anyone older than 40 and most of them know about it. Why wasn't he stopped? Does anyone care? I do. Too much has gone on over there for me (and perhaps Carolyn and some others) to just "stick it where the sun doesn't shine". Maybe the Mullendores know who did it and are satisfied with that information. Maybe they aren't able to tell for some reason, and are content to just wait and see if someone else can come up with the answer. Who knows? But the situation involves a whole lot more people than just the Mullendore family. I love those people,and wouldn't hurt them for the world, but some of us need answers to multiple questions that somehow began when EC Mullendore was killed and the circumstances surrounding his death were certainly suspect of GROSS mishandling by the Osage Sheriff's department. Doesn't that seem a little odd to you? The case of Cary Dale Herrin was grossly mishandled also and he is still paying for it. Obviously, at one point in time, the Mullendores were not too concerned about nosey people poking around in their business, they allowed a book to be written about it.
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#89 Feb 23, 2009
Amen!
Justin

Alva, OK

#90 Feb 24, 2009
Liberal democrats like yourselves obviously dont understand the good ol boy system.Many small communities will protect their own, even if they know things they should tell. Strangers such as yourselves will never solve this case. Carolyn, my father is still alive, if he were murdered, I would probably handle the matter myself.There is more than one way to skin a cat. Sometimes the law is not the answer. It would really upset me and my family to have an out of town city slicker poking around in my business. Mystery fan, I have ties to Osage County and many people will tell you that Osage county has always been a ruthless place. People really dont care about what happened in the past. I know many ranchers with theories about the case; many of them do not match your theories. Here is a thought Mystery fan, dont live in such a crime ridden place if it scares you so much. I am sure none of that goes on in and around Broken Arrow. Your time would be better spent lobbying for laws that would totally wrap civilization in a plastic bubble,to protect everyone from everything.Let me know how that turns out.
mystery fan

Claremore, OK

#91 Feb 24, 2009
As soon as I get all of the innocent people out of prison who have been sent there by good ol boys like you, I will start on that project. I don't live in a crime ridden place, i just happen to know a lot about Pawhuska. And if I were scared, I certainly wouldn't be poking around in something that involves Osage Coumty. Get your head out of the sand and realize that until the God-fearing, law-abiding citizens work together on these types of situations, they will continue to happen. I know these things haven't happened in Alva, since there hasn't ever been a major crime committed there but the rest of the State hasn't been so blessed. Horrific murders have take place and innocent people paid for them. They need to be solved. Osage County has an inordinately large number of these types of cases, and that makes me wonder why. Probably because it operates under the good ol boy system of law enforcement, too. Just because Osage County has always been a ruthless place doesn't mean it should continue to be that way. If you don't have anything to hide, then someone else poking around in your business doesn't matter much, does it? You said if your father were murdered, you would probably take care of the matter yourself. How do you handle that when you don't know who did it? Just go out and "take care of it" on someone who had nothing to do with the situation in the first place? Good ol boy system, huh? Does that make it better? Doesn't that just compound the "sin" of the first crime? This happens every day. Don't believe me, Justin? Read such books as The Innocent Man. That book is NOT fiction. Try reading Kerry Max Cook's book, Searching for Justice, written by a man who spent 22 years on DEATH ROW for a murder he didn't commit. Try reading The Exonerated about eight other people who were subjected to the "good ol boy" system of law and spent 20+ years of their lives in hell because of some corrupt judge or district attorney. This stuff happens. Ever been to prison, Justin? Ever been to prison with no hope of ever getting out? Ever been to prison with no hope of ever getting out for something you didn't do? AFTER you have read these books, you come back and tell me where I should start lobbying for those laws you mentioned. By the way, the "liberal democrats" are the ones who have taken God out of government, out of school, out of community life, and have condoned the "good ol boy" system. No more posts will come from me in reply to your comments. I have better things to do with my time than wallow around in this stuff. I have to get an innocent man out of prison. Anyone want to help? Anyone want to help expose the real murderer of EC Mullendore?
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#92 Feb 24, 2009
Justin, Please do not refer to me as a liberal Democrat! I am as far from that as you can get, free loading is NOT my thing, freedom of speech is , even from you, with the exception of what my political affilation is, you would not know that about me. Now you do. The books mystery fan refered to are good ones! The Innocent Man, was written by John Grishom. Perhaps you have heard of him?
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#93 Feb 24, 2009
By the way Justin, Jonathan Kwitny came all the way from New York City to write a book on the Mullendore Murder Case. He was a reporter for the Wall Steet Journal. He spent months in Oklahoma writing this book and interviewing people. He also had been scheduled to talk to Chub ,it was Chub who offered an interview with Jonathan. Sadly Chub's father was killed in a work related accident, therefore the interview never took place.
Questionable

Independence, KS

#94 Feb 25, 2009
Justin wrote:
Liberal democrats like yourselves obviously dont understand the good ol boy system.Many small communities will protect their own, even if they know things they should tell. Strangers such as yourselves will never solve this case. Carolyn, my father is still alive, if he were murdered, I would probably handle the matter myself.There is more than one way to skin a cat. Sometimes the law is not the answer. It would really upset me and my family to have an out of town city slicker poking around in my business. Mystery fan, I have ties to Osage County and many people will tell you that Osage county has always been a ruthless place. People really dont care about what happened in the past. I know many ranchers with theories about the case; many of them do not match your theories. Here is a thought Mystery fan, dont live in such a crime ridden place if it scares you so much. I am sure none of that goes on in and around Broken Arrow. Your time would be better spent lobbying for laws that would totally wrap civilization in a plastic bubble,to protect everyone from everything.Let me know how that turns out.
Well justin back about the mid 80's there was a mexican named rodriguez or something like that that was killed up in caney. To this date i dont think they have ever solved that crime or recovered his body.
Rumor had it though they found his car about a year or two later at the bottom of a lake in osage county i think it was. There was no body with the car though.
Dont know the particulars, but since you seem to think along the lines of the good ole boys way, you think some good ole boys done it?
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#95 Feb 26, 2009
Mystery fan, I was looking up another website, June 28-2007. You and I were both on it along with Investigative girl. She was a reporter and mentioned under the FOIA she had done some research.She said the case files had mysteriously disappeared. Do you remember that? I just feel sure there is a link somewhere,like a needle in a hay stack, huh? Wish Chub would just tell what happened. If he did not do the crime I will always believe he knows who did. I would beg him to help if he would.To think time removes the crime and all is well is ludicrous!
Justin

Alva, OK

#96 Feb 27, 2009
I have never heard about that murder. Anything is possible.
Flat bed Fred

Alva, OK

#97 Feb 27, 2009
Damn this is one hell of a conversation. Sounds like there are a bunch of eastern slicks on here who dont understand how things work in this portion of the U.S.
I was wondering, where did you buy your crime fighting kit? I need to get one of those.
YEEE Haaaaaa
Give'm hell chub. Red Necks are great
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#98 Feb 27, 2009
Flat Bed Fred, I am getting out my crime fighting kit. I deduce you are a Red Neck and you have a pickup truck.You usually have at least one six pack of beer with you at all times. Remember it is against the law to drink and drive. Be safe and think of others as well.
Flatbed Fred

Norman, OK

#99 Mar 3, 2009
Yes, I am what you would consider a red neck. I'm no crime fighter; in fact, I dont like the police or anyone else who sticks there nose where it doesn't belong. Not pointing fingers, but why do you want to know what happened in this so called murder case. I guess what I mean is why dont you let it rest, the family has accepted it. It is what it is!
Carolyn Phillips

Dalhart, TX

#100 Mar 3, 2009
It is a Cold Case and has NOT been written off the books.

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