What's so bad about Obamacare?

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sick and tired

United States

#2 Jun 21, 2012
Holy cow. Have you been under a rock?
sick and tired

United States

#3 Jun 21, 2012
Lady, over 650 people lost there jobs today. The last thing on minds tonight is drugs. Or how you get them handed to you.
sick and tired

United States

#4 Jun 21, 2012
With our economy going down like it is.
We all may quit our jobs and have that welfare and them handouts to us too.
Wtf am I doing working? Obama will hand it to me.
TOAST

Middlesboro, KY

#5 Jun 21, 2012
Poor old Obama got blamed for stuff the day he was sworn in for President! People never gave him a chance, most people in this area wear blinders!
sick and tired

United States

#6 Jun 21, 2012
TOAST wrote:
Poor old Obama got blamed for stuff the day he was sworn in for President! People never gave him a chance, most people in this area wear blinders!
You must be one that Obama is handing the freebies too. That's all that's for him now.
TOAST

Middlesboro, KY

#7 Jun 21, 2012
sick and tired wrote:
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You must be one that Obama is handing the freebies too. That's all that's for him now.
We shall see, that's why they have elections and count the votes! I would be willing to make a wager with you if your so confident, if you don't mind taking a EBT debit card! HaHa!!!
TOAST

Middlesboro, KY

#9 Jun 21, 2012
I guess if you worked for a company, and you got real sick, any health insurance is better than none at all! I bet most companies would have you replaced and out the door before they would supply you with health insurance, but they can buy land, houses,etc.!!
BHO Sux

Barbourville, KY

#10 Jun 21, 2012
TOAST wrote:
<quoted text>We shall see, that's why they have elections and count the votes! I would be willing to make a wager with you if your so confident, if you don't mind taking a EBT debit card! HaHa!!!
Please, tell us what wonderful things Osama has done for this country. Well, besides tax and spend us into debt greater than the debt accumulated by the 43 previous presidents combined. I guess if you're a bottom-feeding, parasitic, cradle-to-grave welfare/food stamp recipient then tax and spend doesn't mean much to you.
mike

Bellevue, WA

#11 Jun 21, 2012
welcome to the start of the nwo
TOAST

Middlesboro, KY

#12 Jun 21, 2012
When gas drops below 3 dollars, you can take that extra dollar that bush the oil president charged to keep gas around 4 dollars and give it back to the government! Mitt with no witt will help the rich and take from the middle class and poor to help support major corporations! Last time I looked around here we are pretty low income with Wally world being one of our biggest business leaders, very sad!
BHO Sux

Barbourville, KY

#13 Jun 21, 2012
TOAST wrote:
When gas drops below 3 dollars, you can take that extra dollar that bush the oil president charged to keep gas around 4 dollars and give it back to the government! Mitt with no witt will help the rich and take from the middle class and poor to help support major corporations! Last time I looked around here we are pretty low income with Wally world being one of our biggest business leaders, very sad!
The president has very little to do with gas prices, whether he is a democrat or Republican. While it's true that Romney is a very wealthy businessman, please give me an example of where a poor man, totally dependent on the government for food, housing and medical care, has created jobs for others or put a single dime back into the economy (other than spending his ebt benefits that are funded primarily by the top earning 1%). Do you honestly think our country is in a better place than it was the day Osama was elected?
ITP

Somerset, KY

#14 Jun 21, 2012
Well as I see it we are forced to buy automobile insureance and tags and forced to have a number on our homes and a SS# and all kinds of forced things, everyone gets sick and I just cant understand allowing someone to suffer even with a rotting tooth in pain , You have NO dental covarage so just hurt, if a kid was riding a bike and fell off and broke his leg and taken to the hospital do we turn them away? at the er? and say well its looks like your childs leg is broken but do you have any medical insurance? cause if you dont its just to bad we cant treat it even if the leg is swelling and turning blue go home and put him in bed and pack it in mud or something if he gets better good if he dont Oh well things just happen , we only treat the rich people kids that hurt them self sorry...so sorry , Next!!!! move on out the hospital before we call the guards and take you to jail for tresspassing on hospital property now go on the Dr can not see your child you have no money to pay....what kind of Logic is this? and the same goes for all people that is sick that needs treatment I was told once that %90 of my medicine at the pharmacy goes to research? so 9 dollers out of every $10 for medicine goes to research? what a deal that is for the researchers yes buddy.
ITP

Somerset, KY

#15 Jun 21, 2012
How much research does asprin need?

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#16 Jun 21, 2012
sick and tired wrote:
Lady, over 650 people lost there jobs today. The last thing on minds tonight is drugs. Or how you get them handed to you.
Well, I'm assuming that all of those people who lost their jobs today may also not have health coverage. Or maybe they are working one or two part time jobs which are not required to provide health insurance. In which case, this whole health insurance thing is probably something worthy of having on my mind tonight, don't you think?

(Also, just so you know, I don't get anything "handed to me". I am currently uninsured with no prospects of getting medical insurance until after I graduate from college.)
BHO Sux

Chicago, IL

#17 Jun 21, 2012
Capatia wrote:
<quoted text>Well, I'm assuming that all of those people who lost their jobs today may also not have health coverage. Or maybe they are working one or two part time jobs which are not required to provide health insurance. In which case, this whole health insurance thing is probably something worthy of having on my mind tonight, don't you think?

(Also, just so you know, I don't get anything "handed to me". I am currently uninsured with no prospects of getting medical insurance until after I graduate from college.)
Why is it my responsibility to pay for medical coverage for others outside my immediate dependents/family? This is an honest question. I'm not trying to argue. "It's the right thing to do" rhetoric that is so often spewed from the mouths of liberals is not a valid argument, btw. What I consider "right", and what a liberal considers "right", is going to be on opposing ends of the spectrum. I've yet to get a good answer from anyone.
BLUE HAIRS

Barbourville, KY

#18 Jun 22, 2012
TOAST wrote:
Poor old Obama got blamed for stuff the day he was sworn in for President! People never gave him a chance, most people in this area wear blinders!
NO IT'S JUST THEM OLE DUMB ASS BLUE HAIRS! 99% OF THEM RECEIVE FOOD STAMPS, HUD, SSI AND DO YOU KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL GO STRAIGHT AND CUT THEIR OWN THROAT BY VOTING FOR MITT ROMNEY!! THAT'S WHY I HATE THIS DAMN PLACE! I'M LEAVING HERE TODAY!
ITP

Somerset, KY

#19 Jun 22, 2012
BHO Sux wrote:
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Why is it my responsibility to pay for medical coverage for others outside my immediate dependents/family? This is an honest question. I'm not trying to argue. "It's the right thing to do" rhetoric that is so often spewed from the mouths of liberals is not a valid argument, btw. What I consider "right", and what a liberal considers "right", is going to be on opposing ends of the spectrum. I've yet to get a good answer from anyone.
Well here comes your good answer, Ok yours and you as long as yours and you are ok that is just fine, No as humans we cant stand by while others suffer in pain children with no health care sick people no matter the age when sickness strikes its not good , and sick man is not much more then a dead man and how can one human stand by and say well as long as my children and my family and my self is all well , I dont care about if others die or not if a child is suffering with rotting teeth and crying with a ear ach its self to sleep as long as its cries is not to Loud to wake my sleeping children what does it matter? and that father that cant find a job because of illness and that mother that works hard to take best care she can of her family but still dont have health care , so you can ignore the horrid sufferings of other humans as long as you and yours is in good shape? what kind of humans would we be to cover our eyes and ears to see the sickness and hear the cries of others that we can help and choose not to.
ITP

Somerset, KY

#20 Jun 22, 2012
BLUE HAIRS wrote:
<quoted text>NO IT'S JUST THEM OLE DUMB ASS BLUE HAIRS! 99% OF THEM RECEIVE FOOD STAMPS, HUD, SSI AND DO YOU KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL GO STRAIGHT AND CUT THEIR OWN THROAT BY VOTING FOR MITT ROMNEY!! THAT'S WHY I HATE THIS DAMN PLACE! I'M LEAVING HERE TODAY!
I think your got a good point if they would drop drug cost and make Doctors take smaller pay cause Doctors dont work hard most the hard work is done by nurces anyway and a nurce gets a great deal less pay then a Dr , Doctors in America is Grossley overpaid for pretty much nothing we need to send more young people to medical school and teach more about good health more health care workers preventiatve health care make sure people take precautions to be made aware of healthy living each fifth grader should know how to take vital sighns and more health classes should be in grade schools and highschools not all the stupid stuff that is in the class rooms the Beans and taters and corn bread basics of good common sence healthy living...a unhealthy person makes a unhelathy nation.

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#21 Jun 22, 2012
BHO Sux wrote:
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Why is it my responsibility to pay for medical coverage for others outside my immediate dependents/family? This is an honest question. I'm not trying to argue. "It's the right thing to do" rhetoric that is so often spewed from the mouths of liberals is not a valid argument, btw. What I consider "right", and what a liberal considers "right", is going to be on opposing ends of the spectrum. I've yet to get a good answer from anyone.
I believe that health care should be a human right, but without even taking what I believe as a right into consideration, let's look at how the system works right now:

Let's say there's a man, we'll call him Joe, and he works a couple minimum wage jobs to make ends meet. With low wages, Joe has a hard time making the bills, paying rent, and etc., doesn't have health coverage, and makes a little too much money to be covered by Medicaid. So Joe just goes about his business and tries to build a life for himself by working so that he does not have to rely on government assistance. However, let's say that Joe gets sick and finds out that he has cancer. Cancer treatments are expensive, and now it is nearly impossible for Joe to find affordable health insurance due to his pre-existing condition. His only option is to quit his job so that Medicaid-your tax money-will cover his medical expenses. See what I'm saying? Whether it is the current system or Obamacare, our tax dollars are going to cover these medical costs. The only difference is that with Obamacare, Joe can keep working and HIS tax dollars will be going toward the system as well, benefiting you and everyone else. Also, since Joe can keep his job, he is not receiving unemployment benefits or food stamps.

Are there lazy bums who have no plans to get a job but would benefit from your tax dollars anyway?--Yes; but they already DO benefit from them with the current programs.

Thanks for the response!:) I hope that this qualifies as somewhat of a good answer.

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#22 Jun 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Simple... It gives the Federal Government complete and total Power over ever aspect of your life without limits... Then allows a bureaucrat or board to control or limit what medical care you will get dependent on cost across the board for all people... When you can show me a efficient government agency I'll consider getting with the program... If the Federal Government can force you to buy a product (health Care) they set the precedent to force you to buy Any Product they see fit...
There may not be many efficient government agencies in the US, but they do exist in other countries. Take socialized democracies such as Canada or Sweden as an example. Tuition is cheap and healthcare is free. There is less poverty which in turn means significantly less crime. Does government get out of control? No; because when Canada's government tried to raise tuition fees, everyone said no and took to the streets in protest. Government can and does work if the people are well-informed and involved.

I agree that the health insurance mandate as it is is unconstitutional, but I don't think that a mandate in general is bad. The government requires that you pay taxes, so I don't think it is illogical to require everyone to have health coverage since most people need to see a doctor at least once in their lives, and if they are uninsured tax dollars usually end up covering the costs anyway. What is unconstitutional about the mandate is that it requires everyone to buy from private insurance companies. This is Obama's attempt at compromise with the GOP, and it just seems like a big mess. I would rather we just have a single-payer healthcare system with the option to stick with a private insurance company if you want to.

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