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Police: Officer kills Pittsburgh man after police dog shot

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First of all: the "kid" in question is a 19 year old adult with a long wrap sheet including aggravated assault, assault with a deadly weapon, & assault with intent. The police gave him the opportunity to cooperate, not once, but several times during the confrontation. They released the dog in attempt to subdue the perp (who had already drawn his weapon) without using deadly force. He then responds by firing it at police officers- not once but TWICE. They actually had the right to fire at him for having the weapon drawn and aimed in their direction. They were giving the "kid" one more chance by letting the dog loose. They were absolutely justified in firing back. There was nothing overzealous about the shooting. Trust me-- the last thing a police office ever wants to have to do is fire his weapon. This incident is unfortunate.. but could have been avoided had the young man been smart enough to -1-- not steal a gun in the first place, and 2- cooperate with the police, instead he chose to fire his weapon at police officers. His death was brought on himself by his own foolishness. If the police wouldn't have fired back who knows who else this punk would have shot! He gave them no other choice.

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Sorry but this is just another example of overzealous policing in Allegheny County. While I do realize that officers have extremely difficult positions in that they have to use "snap judgements" in situations like this, this is over the top. Imagine if you saw this big german shepherd running at you, of course you would do something if you had the means.
During my time in Pittsburgh, I also saw the police use these dogs to clear the nightclub crowd off the street on the weekends- something I have never seen in any other city. I never saw so many marine type guys with shaved heads in my life. Once I left Pittsburgh, I realized just how socially conservative the city is. If the police tried to pull these tactics in any other city, there would be serious repurcussions and even riots- can you imagine a police officer shooting a kid over a dog, or the consistent use of dogs to move people off the street (which is a violation of one's civil liberties?). Truly an ass backwards city.
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Thank you Mt. Oliver Resident x2. Amen to everything you said. It is a shame that there is so much crime and violence due to obnoxious jerks with guns and dealing drugs. I say...clean the streets of Pittsburgh of this kind of trash. Sadly, it is a menace to society all over the country.
Anyone who criticizes the police, should walk in their shoes from day to day and have to deal with thugs with guns and be in life threatening situations on a daily basis to see what it's truly like. I commend police officers and their partners for all that they do. They have a very dangerous and difficult task. Their partner police dogs do a wonderful job. These beings are so intelligent and well trained.
I just know that Aulf is watching down on the police officers now. He is where nobody can ever harm him again.
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I know. People who walk around under police protection and then say that the hate police should be ashamed of themselves. The people who say that are usually involved in something illegal anyway. They hate the police who catch them breaking the law. They hate the government that makes the laws. They hate the nurses and doctors that take care of them when they are sick. They hate the teachers that tried to give them an education but had to fail them because they either didn't study or just didn't come to class. They hate the boss that fired them for being lazy. They hate and rob their neighbors that work hard to be successful. They then expect society to pay for them and their choices. Part of the problem with these thugs is their sense of entitlement- like the world owes them. So suddenly the criminal becomes the victim of an unjust/unequal society. Mr Jackson was no victim-- except from himself and his own choices. He chose to commit violent crimes, he chose to steal. He chose to ignore the police when warned to stop. He made choices that now unfortunately the rest of us have to live with. I am sure that his parents are heartbroken, as would anyone be who lost a child. They are pionting the blame at the police officers who were forced to protect themselves and the community from their violent son when they should be looking at their son's actions and at themselves. I have three sons and would be devestated.. and deeply ashamed if one of my boys grew up to behave as their son did. But like I said. It is about choices. He could have chosen to live a different life. He could have chosen to get a college education and a good job. (There are ways to pay for school without a full ride.) Just like I chose to work two jobs to get through school. Just like I choose to get up and go to work everyday and to teach my children that you have to work hard for what you have. I choose to teach them moral values and to respect authority,value life and God and to give freely to others- but that they cannot expect anyone to give them anything. I teach them to be grateful for what they have. And I pray I am teaching them to make the right choices. Life is about choices. That young man made the wrong choices in life and paid the ultimate price...it is tragic but he did have a choice.
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Why does anyone care he deserved it he was useless thank you for sweeping the trash city cops keep up the good work. I hope you aim more for the head more often we love you all here in Mt oliver you guys are the best this makes great television. Its reality tv at its best keep on shooting.
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rocket j squirrel wrote:
The dog's handler returned fire, hitting the man in the head and killing him.
GOOD! the k-9 was more valuable to society than this POS LOOSER.
i think the dog was less valuable and i think it was all a set up that man aint kill that dumd ass dog
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i think this is crazy, that dog was not more valuable than that mans life i say it was a set up and the man didnt fire a shot at all i think it was a racis act
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and for all u racis people this isnt right and you all should just feel stupid fa real who gives 2 craps about that dumb dog its a freekin dog people kill animals every day so just because that dog was trained it was extra special yeah right wake up and stop bein gay as hell
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shantell wrote:
and for all u racis people this isnt right and you all should just feel stupid fa real who gives 2 craps about that dumb dog its a freekin dog people kill animals every day so just because that dog was trained it was extra special yeah right wake up and stop bein gay as hell
Grow up shantell and get a life! Racist? Are you freaking kidding me? do everyone a favor and STFU! You live by the sword you DIE by the sword!
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shantell wrote:
and for all u racis people this isnt right and you all should just feel stupid fa real who gives 2 craps about that dumb dog its a freekin dog people kill animals every day so just because that dog was trained it was extra special yeah right wake up and stop bein gay as hell
Learn to spell you uneducated dip shit. Only micheal vick kills dogs everyday and its spelled racist and the only reason you say we're racist is because he was a black man. Obviously you're the racist here. Can you explain to me why a 19 yr old is carrying a 357 magnum pistol which your only allowed to carry with a permit and which you have to be 21 to have. If he would have just listened to the police in the first place like he was told and was not trying to be the next tupac he would still be alive the dumbass. News flash, he would've pulled a gun on me i'd have shot his dumb ass too. Real tough guys bully 13 yr old kids. Not
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In response to shantell's ridiculous, stupid a__ remarks! You're so ignorant it isn't funny.
First of all, this police dog is an officer of the law, and he is, indeed, much more valuable than this scum of the earth that had a criminal history a mile long, and he had no regard for human life. Jackson should have been behind bars for a long time for his previous offenses.
Furthermore, people of your mentality are crazy to think the police officers set him up. You are the racist here and you people only see things ___backwards where the police are concerned. You're in total denial about what really happened.
You're the one that should feel immensely stupid, these police dogs are much more intelligent than you.
People that kill animals everyday should be severely punished.
In my opinion, if the guy would have been white, I would feel the same way. That makes no difference with me.
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Don't waste your time responding to shantell; the overwhelming response of others who are glad to see what happened to this young thug punk should be enough to shut them up. Does anyone else remember that the Police were called to the scene of the crime because of the report of gunshots being fired in the area? Where was this waste of DNA PRIOR to the incident between the police and himself? Off shooting at others? What kind of moron pulls a gun on the cops? Guaranteed the Police are going to have better aim than you and it looks like they got him right where they needed to.
Supporters or mourners of Jackson, I'm sorry you lost a friend or family member; you should be relieved you won't have to deal with more of his BS and problems in the future. Residents of Mt. Oliver and Pittsburgh, thank God there is one less of these punk thugs on the streets.
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Oh boy, I am sure Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson will be in Pittsburgh for a protest soon!! Liberals always feel sorry for the criminal and always blame the victim.
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shantell wrote:
and for all u racis people this isnt right and you all should just feel stupid fa real who gives 2 craps about that dumb dog its a freekin dog people kill animals every day so just because that dog was trained it was extra special yeah right wake up and stop bein gay as hell
Not one person on this forum made on mention of black or white until you, so you are the only racist here sweetie. If this were a white, Asian, Middle Eastern person or female, I know for a fact it wouldn't have mattered. A bullet is going to kill no matter what the person firing it looks like. Also all these people saying "Why do the police have to shoot to kill" are really making me sick- do you work in law enforcement? Do you have any common sense? It's called fight or flight response- if I see someone with a gun and hear a gun shot- my amygdila (the part of the brain which triggers the danger response) is going to go off and naturally I'm going to defend myself. If you get jumped, are you going to go "Ok guys lets work this out?" Or try to do minimal damage? Heck no- you're going to beat the heck outta those people beating you up until they are incapacitated, or until you can't fight anymore. Same with the police because they have a common goal- to protect the bystanders, and GO HOME at the end of the night.
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I hear the parents and others are complaining about this shooting.
If the 19 year old kid had complied with officers' instructions instead of pulling a gun, he would be alive today.
The 19 year old brought this on himself. Just plain (dead) stupid.
____ this racist city and aulf too!!! These whities is crazy bout a dumb ___ dog!!____the police, racist M'fers...that boy aint desreve that..no human being does, black white otr otherwise..But wait till Obama get in..history will change..Believe that!
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All u rednecks suck! Who gives a hoot about a dam dog! Oh I forgot yall smell like wet dogs!! LMFAO!! Obama 08!!!!!
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F White People and NETA,
You should be very, very proud. Not only of your ever so proper english-speaking skills, but your ability to make this even more so of a race issue. If you think that putting a Black President in office is going to change the crime that you are supporting and polluting your streets with today is going to help, you are sadly wrong. I'm pretty sure Senator Obama respects those who protect him on a daily basis (and keeps our country clean of scum like you)a whole lot more than a few loudmouths like yourself.
You want something to laugh your effin' asses off about? Read back on some of the comments on this string.
More so, what makes you think I am white? You sound like more of a redneck than anyone I have heard in a long time. "Who gives a hoot about a darn dog?"
I for one am for Obama in '08 as well. Let's hope he doesn't get shot by some fools like yourself though while in office and has time time to clean your acts up.
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The scum deserved what he got. Too bad more of them don't end up with a bullet in their head. Just think thats one less welfare check out there, one less crackhead and one less piece of garbage living off my paycheck. They should all try to get jobs instead of place the blame and race game, but thats too easy. The DOG was more important, the dog was a productive part of society, even if he had four legs.
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F white people wrote:
All u rednecks suck! Who gives a hoot about a dam dog! Oh I forgot yall smell like wet dogs!! LMFAO!! Obama 08!!!!!
Must be another welfare recipient, who has 10 kids, and DONT know who their Mammy or daddies are. Go back to the motherland, africa, you people cant act civilized, you belong in the jungles, just like the monkies.
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NETA wrote:
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____ this racist city and aulf too!!! These whities is crazy bout a dumb ___ dog!!____the police, racist M'fers...that boy aint desreve that..no human being does, black white otr otherwise..But wait till Obama get in..history will change..Believe that!
Hopefully Oboma won't be as racist as you. Go back to school & learn how to spell. I say kill them all.Stupid -ss
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I give a hoot about a damn dog...I'd rather have that dog than the person who was a contributing factor to making Mt. Oliver a slum for honest people that lived there their whole lives. IT sucks that Jackson died, but if he was truly trying to reform his life maybe instead of walking Arlington Ave. with a .357 in his shirt he'd a been in church!
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