Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Judge Moniters wrote:

<quoted text>No, it was not done the right way. I know what you are saying. Most people do not know that New York was due to vote on an Initiative process in New York after the Nov. 2012 election and would have gone on the ballot in 2014.
They intentionally created a possible worse situation than in California. The legistature should have been forced to wait until 2014, and this would have happened possibly if Obama had not stuck his nose into the decision.

Some cheese with your whine dear?

Judge Moniters wrote:

<quoted text>Go screw a dog, punk. If you don't like an opinion, then deal with it. You want to shut up people, maybe we should vote to take the vote away from all gays and shut up you because we don't like your opinion. If you are not gay, then we will vote to take away the vote of all who support gays. If you think you have the majority, rolls the dice, punk.

Wow, this one's wound a little too tight. I think she's getting ready to blow. Stand back everyone!

Hey Jonah get your facts out of your ass: 73% of the psychiatrists in the American Psychiatric Association who responded to a survey by Harold I. Lief said that they thought that homosexual men are less happy than others. 70% percent said they believed that the homosexuals' problems were due more to personal conflicts than to social stigmatization. Study by Harold I. Lief, Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality 2 (1977), pp.110- 111 (Cited in Growing Up Straight by George A. Reker).........Many studies have shown that children of homosexual households are 2 to 4 times as likely to become homosexual themselves as compared to the general population..........In a national health care survey 75% of the nearly 2000 lesbian respondents reported they had pursued psychological counselling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness. J. Bradford et al., "National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for Mental Health Care," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 62 (1994): 239, cited in Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality, p. 81.

Homosexual men are 6 times more likely to have attempted suicide than are heterosexual men. Study by Bell and Weinberg,“Homosexualities…”, Table 21.12

Studies indicate that between 25 and 33% of homosexual men and women are alcoholics. Study by Robert J. Kus,“Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay American Men”, Journal of Homosexuality, Volume 14, No.2 (1987), p.254

Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners.Bell and Weinberg p 308

The same study revealed that homosexual men have to a great extent separated sexuality from relationship..........Lesbians are 3 times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviours. Joanne Hall, "Lesbians Recovering from Alcoholic Problems: An Ethnographic Study of Health Care Expectations," Nursing Research 43 (1994): 238–244

A study of homosexual twins found that they are more likely to have attempted suicide than there heterosexual twin. R. Herrell et al., "A Co-twin Study in Adult Men," Archives of General Psychiatry 56 (1999): 867–874

The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general. Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657.

“A disproportionate percentage — 29 percent — of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6 percent of adult children of heterosexual parents having reported sexual relations with their parent.… Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50.” P. Cameron and K. Cameron, "Homosexual Parents," Adolescence 31 (1996): 772

Anonymous wrote:

<quoted text>Such anger and such hate. 12, well of course since you age gay then you are looking for a date.
Yes, lets listen to the experts in the the fields of psychology and psychiatry, they say that pathology and psycho-sexual disorders are common among gays. They also said that it is YOU gays who commit SUICIDE and suffer from all kinds of diseases.
The list of diseases found with extraordinary frequency among male homosexual practitioners as a result of anal intercourse is alarming:
Anal Cancer
Chlamydia trachomatis
Cryptosporidium
Giardia lamblia
Herpes simplex virus
Human immunodeficiency virus
Human papilloma virus
Isospora belli
Microsporidia
Gonorrhea
Viral hepatitis types B & C
Syphilis
Sexual transmission of some of these diseases is so rare in the exclusively heterosexual population as to be virtually unknown.
A 1988 CDC survey identified 21 percent of all Hepatitis B cases as being homosexually transmitted while 18 percent were heterosexually transmitted. Since homosexuals comprise such a small percent of the population (only 1-3 percent), they have a significantly higher rate of infection than heterosexuals.
Anal intercourse also puts men at significant risk for anal cancer. Anal cancer is the result of infection with some subtypes of human papilloma virus (HPV), which are known viral carcinogens. Data as of 1989 showed the rates of anal cancer in male homosexual practitioners to be 10 times that of heterosexual males, and growing. Thus, the prevalence of anal cancer among gay men is of great concern. For those with AIDS, the rates are doubled.
YOU WERE SAYING, GAYTARD!!!!

I just love it when you people pull this nonsense out. Honestly R1, are you actually under the impression that anyone believes this utter bullshyt??!!! LOL!!!

You and your kind reek of desperation. Please, don't stop. We are begging you to continue. Your preposterous hatred and baseless repetition is one of the best assets we have in our fight for equality.

Judge Walker wrote:

<quoted text>No, foolish child, you only have 6 states and fool you have never won a vote.

Um, moron, could you point out where "states" were ever mentioned? Oh, that's right, they weren't. So I included Washington DC. And we have "won" nine. Don't forget to include Washington State and Maryland dipshyt. And the marriages performed in those nine areas are recognized in Rhode Island. Just fyi!

Judge Walker wrote:

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There are 41 states, 6 that don't have normal marriage laws and 3 who will add normal marriage laws. The unconstitutional of the 6 states will be declared soon enough. Then like North Carolina, state by state, domino effect, down will come tumbling all same sex civil unions. History will repeat itself for gays, and like Nazi Germany, you will be put in internment camps and experimented on so we can help you find that gay gene. It will be a 150 year project, guaranteed to be renewed for 10 consecutive 150 years periods or until we find away to completely cure your disease.
Newsflash: This has always been the UN plan for curing gays, we kept it a secret until now.

Yawn. What a retard.

RiccardoFire wrote:

Hey Jonah get your facts out of your ass: 73% of the psychiatrists in the American Psychiatric Association who responded to a survey by Harold I. Lief said that they thought that homosexual men are less happy than others. 70% percent said they believed that the homosexuals' problems were due more to personal conflicts than to social stigmatization. Study by Harold I. Lief, Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality 2 (1977), pp.110- 111 (Cited in Growing Up Straight by George A. Reker).........Many studies have shown that children of homosexual households are 2 to 4 times as likely to become homosexual themselves as compared to the general population..........In a national health care survey 75% of the nearly 2000 lesbian respondents reported they had pursued psychological counselling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness. J. Bradford et al., "National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for Mental Health Care," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 62 (1994): 239, cited in Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality, p. 81.
Homosexual men are 6 times more likely to have attempted suicide than are heterosexual men. Study by Bell and Weinberg,“Homosexualities…”, Table 21.12
Studies indicate that between 25 and 33% of homosexual men and women are alcoholics. Study by Robert J. Kus,“Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay American Men”, Journal of Homosexuality, Volume 14, No.2 (1987), p.254
Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners.Bell and Weinberg p 308
The same study revealed that homosexual men have to a great extent separated sexuality from relationship..........Lesbians are 3 times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviours. Joanne Hall, "Lesbians Recovering from Alcoholic Problems: An Ethnographic Study of Health Care Expectations," Nursing Research 43 (1994): 238–244
A study of homosexual twins found that they are more likely to have attempted suicide than there heterosexual twin. R. Herrell et al., "A Co-twin Study in Adult Men," Archives of General Psychiatry 56 (1999): 867–874
The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general. Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657.
“A disproportionate percentage — 29 percent — of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6 percent of adult children of heterosexual parents having reported sexual relations with their parent.… Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50.” P. Cameron and K. Cameron, "Homosexual Parents," Adolescence 31 (1996): 772

These have been disproven ad nauseum. I have no need to address them again. You can simply highlight a portion of this nonsense, put it in google, and find other strings where all this nonsense has been debunked.

Thank you though for proving my point about your kind. Please keep it up! The desperation and intentional deceit help us more and more every day! Thanks Ricky.

thisGuy wrote:

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LOL Not what I read. Apparently there are alot of gay activists pushing for porn in the classroom
http://www.wnd.com/2007/06/42193/
Face it gaytards, the crazies are YOU & your homosexual community. The government should have never taken you perverts out of the insane asylums

Oh puh-leez! World Nutjob Daily?????? hahahahahahaha

Two chicks together is HOT!

RiccardoFire wrote:

Hey Jonah get your facts out of your ass: 73% of the psychiatrists in the American Psychiatric Association who responded to a survey by Harold I. Lief said that they thought that homosexual men are less happy than others. 70% percent said they believed that the homosexuals' problems were due more to personal conflicts than to social stigmatization. Study by Harold I. Lief, Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality 2 (1977), pp.110- 111 (Cited in Growing Up Straight by George A. Reker).........Many studies have shown that children of homosexual households are 2 to 4 times as likely to become homosexual themselves as compared to the general population..........In a national health care survey 75% of the nearly 2000 lesbian respondents reported they had pursued psychological counselling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness. J. Bradford et al., "National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for Mental Health Care," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 62 (1994): 239, cited in Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality, p. 81.
Homosexual men are 6 times more likely to have attempted suicide than are heterosexual men. Study by Bell and Weinberg,“Homosexualities…”, Table 21.12
Studies indicate that between 25 and 33% of homosexual men and women are alcoholics. Study by Robert J. Kus,“Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay American Men”, Journal of Homosexuality, Volume 14, No.2 (1987), p.254
Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners.Bell and Weinberg p 308
The same study revealed that homosexual men have to a great extent separated sexuality from relationship..........Lesbians are 3 times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviours. Joanne Hall, "Lesbians Recovering from Alcoholic Problems: An Ethnographic Study of Health Care Expectations," Nursing Research 43 (1994): 238–244
A study of homosexual twins found that they are more likely to have attempted suicide than there heterosexual twin. R. Herrell et al., "A Co-twin Study in Adult Men," Archives of General Psychiatry 56 (1999): 867–874
The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general. Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657.
“A disproportionate percentage — 29 percent — of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6 percent of adult children of heterosexual parents having reported sexual relations with their parent.… Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50.” P. Cameron and K. Cameron, "Homosexual Parents," Adolescence 31 (1996): 772

Paul Cameron?

hahahahaahah
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ahahahahahahah
ahahahahahaha

His studies as so far removed from reality that even EXODUS INTERNATIONAL stopped using them.

And oh no you didn't mention George Reker.... Did you want to hire his "luggage handler?" Jesus tap-dancing Christ! You are a complete moron.

Jonah1 wrote:

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These have been disproven ad nauseum. I have no need to address them again. You can simply highlight a portion of this nonsense, put it in google, and find other strings where all this nonsense has been debunked.
Thank you though for proving my point about your kind. Please keep it up! The desperation and intentional deceit help us more and more every day! Thanks Ricky.

Can you believe he had the nerve to quote George Reker? OMFG!

Mona Lott wrote:

<quoted text> Can you believe he had the nerve to quote George Reker? OMFG!

My guess is he doesn't know who he's quoting. So I don't think nerves were involved at all! Seriously, I don't know which is more idiot, George or Paul!! Perhaps next he'll be quoting Frederic Wertham next!

My guess is he doesn't even understand half of what is alluded to in that clap trap of anti-gay propaganda.

Jonah1 wrote:

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These have been disproven ad nauseum. I have no need to address them again. You can simply highlight a portion of this nonsense, put it in google, and find other strings where all this nonsense has been debunked.
Thank you though for proving my point about your kind. Please keep it up! The desperation and intentional deceit help us more and more every day! Thanks Ricky.

most ppl don't really care about gays and marriage, the problem is you ignore the truth and paint a false picture of reality, maybe that is why you are gay. Thank you though for proving my point about your kind. Please keep it up!

Ninth circuit court of appeals will not hear the case! California will only have to wait 90 days still marriage equality is again the law of land in California! September 5, 2012 is the day! Woo hooo! Hoary for equality!

I love it. Prop 8 supporters spend tens of millions of dollars trying to deny LGBT equal right and they still lost in the end.

We only have to wait 90 day till marriage equality is the law of the land again in California.

Bill Of Rights wrote:

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Yeah,it's a real bitch when that pesky Constitution gets in the way of your bigotry! LOL,Sorry the Judge made the right decision,the only one he could and the higher court confirmed his verdict! Sorry for the sour grapes buddy,and sorry you don't like our Constitution!

...then answer the question, and show your biggotry, sir...

Wat the Tyler wrote:

Ninth circuit court of appeals will not hear the case! California will only have to wait 90 days still marriage equality is again the law of land in California! September 5, 2012 is the day! Woo hooo! Hoary for equality!
I love it. Prop 8 supporters spend tens of millions of dollars trying to deny LGBT equal right and they still lost in the end.
We only have to wait 90 day till marriage equality is the law of the land again in California.

....then you have choosen to extinguish you rights as an american....what next? one man to tell you if you live or die?

Jonah1 wrote:

<quoted text>
I've already changed the world.
Good to see you are still too stupid to actually contribute to a conversation and are here only to hurl personal, unfounded insults. Our side is so fortunate to have you as an opposer. Keep up the great work Penguin Boy!

You get back what you hand out !!!!

john wrote:

....then you have choosen to extinguish you rights as an american....what next? one man to tell you if you live or die?

Excuse me? How is giving EQUAL RIGHTS to lgbt couples in marriage equality extinguishing America? I thought this was the land of the free? Oh right you Republicans only believe it's land of the free for white male Christians.

RiccardoFire wrote:

(post plagiarized from: http://www.exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosex... )

Let's see, your source is an organization whose sole business is the alleged "curing" of homosexuality. A thinking person would question just how badly they might be torturing their "facts" into agreement with their preconceived notion that homosexuality has to be bad or this snake oil business would be out of business. You on the other hand cut and pasted it as if you were quoting from the Gospel. Very telling about you and not in a good way.

Let's take a look at least some of the torture going on here:

"Study by Harold I. Lief, Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality 2 (1977), pp.110- 111 (Cited in Growing Up Straight by George A. Reker)."

George (the rentboy was just there to lift my luggage) Reker. His career as an anti-Gay "expert", already in a tailspin after being ruled not credible in several court cases where he gave testimony and revelations about the disastrous consequences for some who had undergone therapy under his "care", absolutely tanked when his traveling companion on a European anti-Gay business trip was a Gay escort hired off the internet. His credibility is zero. As for his source, a 1977 study. A whole heck of a lot has changed for those of us who are Gay in the last 35 years, I know they have for me. Credibility, marginal at best.

"Many studies have shown that children of homosexual households are 2 to 4 times as likely to become homosexual themselves as compared to the general population."

No sources as to how many is many and as to just how credible these "studies" actually are. One of the studies that I know the anti-Gay crowd like to cite involved something on the order of only 22 children. A sample that small means if more than one shows up, the statistics are going to be out of whack.

" J. Bradford et al., "National Lesbian Health Care Survey: Implications for Mental Health Care," Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology 62 (1994): 239, cited in Health Implications Associated with Homosexuality, p. 81."

Again, we have an anti-Gay source citing another source with no substantiation that this site's source was correct, no substantiation of how many is many and nothing that tells us that they sought counseling because they were Lesbians.

"Study by Bell and Weinberg,“Homosexualities…”, Table 21.12"

A 1979 study with all sorts of sampling issues which are completely disregarded by your friends in the Gay "cure" business. Yes, suicide rates among LGBT youth are considerably than those who are not. Imagine growing up being lied to, told you are sick and/or worse for no other reason that you weren't born to be completely heterosexual and/or cisgendered. It takes a hell of a lot of inner strength and courage to grow up LGBT in this world and even more so to do so openly. People like you and your "friends" don't realize just how bad it is, because you're having too much fun and in the case of Exodus, hauling in too much money, to realize that you're part of that problem.

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"Study by Robert J. Kus,“Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay American Men”, Journal of Homosexuality, Volume 14, No.2 (1987), p.254"

The figure cited is merely an estimate an the author's part, the study is not to quantify the number of alcoholic Gay men, but to explore the experiences of those who are involved in the program. Yes, the incidence of alcohol (and drug) abuse and addiction are higher for LGBT people, having to live with this kind of anti-Gay propaganda and disdain, if not outright hate is enough to drive anyone to drink. There is no evidence that LGBT are more likely to have this problem because they are LGBT.

"Bell and Weinberg"

Another flashback from 1979. Remember that rather serious sampling problem I mentioned before? Well this is one of them. Representational of Gay and Lesbians, even in the years before AIDS, it ain't. Bell and Weinberg were operating from a convenience sampling of individuals, they are representative of no one but the participants in it. Bell and Weinberg even admit it, it's why it was published only in book form.

"Joanne Hall, "Lesbians Recovering from Alcoholic Problems: An Ethnographic Study of Health Care Expectations," Nursing Research 43 (1994): 238–244"

Another estimate used by a study not attempting to quantify a problem but to examine the experiences of Lesbians who happen to be alcoholic. I know having to respond to this crap for the umpteenth time is making a drink sound real good and I rarely drink.

"R. Herrell et al., "A Co-twin Study in Adult Men," Archives of General Psychiatry 56 (1999): 867–874"

I'll bet you didn't know that if you Google the title listed for this study, the ONLY results are sites which are quoting from the article you ripped off. Hmmmm.

"Robert S. Hogg et al., "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidemiology 26 (1997): 657."

While such a discrepancy could be said to exist at the height of the deaths from AIDS in Canada in the late 80's and early 90's, advances in treatments for HIV and AIDS has all but wiped out any such difference. Hogg has said so himself, look it up.

"P. Cameron and K. Cameron, "Homosexual Parents," Adolescence 31 (1996): 772"

I guess if you run out of actual science you can torture to fit your argument, there's always Dr Paul Cameron who is always good for a really scary "fact". Too bad he is possibly the single most discredited "expert" in any field of science. He's been expelled from every professional association he was ever affiliated with for falsifying data and misrepresenting the research of others and has been prohibited from providing "expert" testimony in federal courts for doing pretty much the same thing. I kinda don't blame Exodus from having to admit that they had to stoop that low for their so called facts.

Thanks for playing, but you and your friends you ripped off are dismissed as not only as completely not credible, you lied to us.

RiccardoFire wrote:

<quoted text>most ppl don't really care about gays and marriage,

Really? And yet here you are day in and day out. LOL! Idiot much?

Oh, and you seem to think that the cares of the people have something to do with civil equality. They aren't related.

RiccardoFire wrote:

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the problem is you ignore the truth and paint a false picture of reality,

Specifics. Examples of this "false picture". Examples of where I have "ignored truth". Sorry dipshyt, but you have proven yourself to be a huge liar. No one just accepts your posts and your statements without support. Provide examples to support your statements.

Waiting....

Waiting....

Waiting....

LOL! What a tool you are.

RiccardoFire wrote:

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maybe that is why you are gay.

I see, imaginary ignorance of non-existent truths is what makes one gay in your opinion. Got it.

Good luck with that one. You might want to share your "philosophy" with George Rikers and with Paul Cameron!!!

RiccardoFire wrote:

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Thank you though for proving my point about your kind. Please keep it up!

You made no point. And copying my previous statements only shows how desperate and stupid you are. But then, we've all known that since you arrived.