'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

Oct 1, 2010 | Posted by: Top Mod2 | Full story: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Again, it's amazing how you can identify something so clearly....but then you just miss the important part of it by a mile...
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Actually, taxes and other uncertainty (such as how implementing Obamacare will affect my costs, or the income and discretionary spending of my customers will effect demand for my product/service) is a HUGE factor in whether a business owner decides to RISK more of his money to expand his business, whether with hiring or other capital expenditures (such as building a larger facility)
How can I hire an employee if I don't even know what that employee will costs me? So what if hiring that employee will produce $40,000 worth of product if the costs of that employee is $40,000 or more? It's not worth hiring them.
Not to mention the uncertainty surrounding all the government regulations is one of the largest factors in the decisions businesses make.
Oh fur chrissake man, I would advice you to stay away from running your own biz, producing a product without profit is, well, not good for business. If your product is running such a small margin that you have to worry about taxes and healthcare, again, it's not good for business -- go work for a paycheck and keep your wife happy!
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WakeUp---Thank you--a good explanation well put.My wording could not do as well!!

Don`t put much faith in Frank being impressed--he will probably just deny or ignore.It is difficult to understand why the truth is so difficult for them to comprehend.
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Oh fur chrissake man, I would advice you to stay away from running your own biz, producing a product without profit is, well, not good for business. If your product is running such a small margin that you have to worry about taxes and healthcare, again, it's not good for business -- go work for a paycheck and keep your wife happy!
Douglas W. Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, warned that the uncertainty could stifle gross domestic product growth by as much as 0.5 percent this year.

“By reaching into virtually every sector of economic life, government is injecting uncertainty into the marketplace and making it harder to raise capital and create new businesses,” said Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg at a speech in Washington in late June.
But what does Seidenberg know? He only employs roughly 85,000 people.

As the price of electricity rises in Kentucky due to the EPA's GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS, we will lose a competitive advantage with not only other states, but other countries around the world.

You sir, know nothing about what it takes to run a business, especially a small business. ESPECIALLY in this disastrous economy (remember how you failed to respond to the 1.4% GDP growth, the 19% faster growth in disability than employment, and the last two or three months of employment not even keeping up with population growth, etc etc?)

This past Christmas stores had record breaking sales! Sears had the highest sales ever...and closed 100 stores immediately after. B/c we're ALL operating on the thinnest profit margin we can in order to retain employees, keep up with inflation (that reported and the 9%-10% actual) and hang on to market share.

Government regulations, increased taxes, obamacare and the costs and time wasted in trying to comply with all the red tape is STAGGERING.

Your ignorance is palpable. And scary.
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Funny no one ever heard Sam Walton bitch about taxes when he started making his first million and then billions. He was at his start in the 75% Tax Bracket. Funny how so many Billionaires were made in the 50s and 60s when taxes were MORE than double the rate they are now..

As for today I never heard one of the richest person in America, Bill Gates, bitch about taxes. Never heard him say he wasn't going to make another million per day because taxes are too high.
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Douglas W. Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, warned that the uncertainty could stifle gross domestic product growth by as much as 0.5 percent this year.
“By reaching into virtually every sector of economic life, government is injecting uncertainty into the marketplace and making it harder to raise capital and create new businesses,” said Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg at a speech in Washington in late June.
But what does Seidenberg know? He only employs roughly 85,000 people.
As the price of electricity rises in Kentucky due to the EPA's GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS, we will lose a competitive advantage with not only other states, but other countries around the world.
You sir, know nothing about what it takes to run a business, especially a small business. ESPECIALLY in this disastrous economy (remember how you failed to respond to the 1.4% GDP growth, the 19% faster growth in disability than employment, and the last two or three months of employment not even keeping up with population growth, etc etc?)
This past Christmas stores had record breaking sales! Sears had the highest sales ever...and closed 100 stores immediately after. B/c we're ALL operating on the thinnest profit margin we can in order to retain employees, keep up with inflation (that reported and the 9%-10% actual) and hang on to market share.
Government regulations, increased taxes, obamacare and the costs and time wasted in trying to comply with all the red tape is STAGGERING.
Your ignorance is palpable. And scary.
LOL ... probably not the smartest thing you ever said! Do you at least manage to return your library books on time?
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Funny no one ever heard Sam Walton bitch about taxes when he started making his first million and then billions. He was at his start in the 75% Tax Bracket. Funny how so many Billionaires were made in the 50s and 60s when taxes were MORE than double the rate they are now..
As for today I never heard one of the richest person in America, Bill Gates, bitch about taxes. Never heard him say he wasn't going to make another million per day because taxes are too high.
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I never heard Sam Walton say anything. And I haven't talked to Bill Gates in ages.
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LOL ... probably not the smartest thing you ever said! Do you at least manage to return your library books on time?
I'm disappointed in you fwankie! Is that the best reply you could come up with? Really? No, seriously? Poor guy, evidently you scraped the last drip-drop from the bottom of your barrel. You do know that we noticed you couldn't reply with even one small fact to dispute anything in WakeUp's post, right? Just a silly kiddie reply. No facts. No debate. Just your typical fwankie "I know you are but what am I, neener, neener, neener, library books, blah, blah, blah, boring attempt at distracting from the issues and facts. Does your obvious ignorance ever embarrass you at all? Don't you get tired of getting spanked on here day after day? Are you some kind of beat-freak and enjoy getting your old ass spanked every day? Oh well, wittle fwankie, whatever gets you through the nite. LMMFAO!
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The whole GOPer idea that there are some magic beings called the “Job Creators” is complete bunk and nothing more than a (tiresome) talking point. Anyone who has ever run a business, as owner or manager, knows that hiring employees is very expensive and is done as a last resort when the demand for your product or service is pushing productivity to a tipping point. A business only grows with increased demand and you, as the manager, care very little about taxes or uncertainty, once that demand is there you jump on the opportunity, after all, that’s why you started the business!
of couarse demand!! but if my overhead go up, there wont be new employees, new demand. obama has done a good job creating jobs! the destroyer, the foodstamp king, master of diaster etc.
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Funny no one ever heard Sam Walton bitch about taxes when he started making his first million and then billions. He was at his start in the 75% Tax Bracket. Funny how so many Billionaires were made in the 50s and 60s when taxes were MORE than double the rate they are now..
As for today I never heard one of the richest person in America, Bill Gates, bitch about taxes. Never heard him say he wasn't going to make another million per day because taxes are too high.
Perhaps because even when the top tier tax bracket was 90% or even 75% it applies to earned income, not invested income? The reality is that the effective tax rate has rarely been over 40% on the Federal level.

Or that the big corporations, along with big money individuals and families (think John Kerry NOT registering his boat in Massachusetts) can afford the pricey lawyers, and the multiple corporations and trusts required to be able to shield their assets and income from taxes?

If you want a more effective comparison, look at taxes as a % of GDP. the U.S usually averages around 19.5% of GDP to taxes. Whether the tax rate is 90% or 35% we rarely collect more than 20%-21% of GDP in taxes.

We're on target for Government spending to hit 23.4% of GDP in 2012.

Average tax revenue: 19.5%(see Hauser's Law.)
Highest tax revenue: 20.6%(2000)

We are unable to pay for what we're spending.
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Perhaps because even when the top tier tax bracket was 90% or even 75% it applies to earned income, not invested income? The reality is that the effective tax rate has rarely been over 40% on the Federal level.
Or that the big corporations, along with big money individuals and families (think John Kerry NOT registering his boat in Massachusetts) can afford the pricey lawyers, and the multiple corporations and trusts required to be able to shield their assets and income from taxes?
If you want a more effective comparison, look at taxes as a % of GDP. the U.S usually averages around 19.5% of GDP to taxes. Whether the tax rate is 90% or 35% we rarely collect more than 20%-21% of GDP in taxes.
We're on target for Government spending to hit 23.4% of GDP in 2012.
Average tax revenue: 19.5%(see Hauser's Law.)
Highest tax revenue: 20.6%(2000)
We are unable to pay for what we're spending.
All you Repubs need is to convince the 53% of American Obama voters how lower taxes on the rich will create jobs for everyone. Since you have NO historic proof of it, I don't know how you'll be able to however. The major problem is Democrats remember longer than Repubs do. We remember Reagan telling us if we just let the rich have more things will be better when it Trickles Down. Were they? Trickle was the right word for the middle class. Since Reagan middle class earnings have increased 18%. The top has increased 287%. We remember Bush and McConnell telling us we must lower taxes on the rich to create jobs. What happened with that? In the decade of Bush the US saw the worst job growth in the past 50 years.
So unless there is someway you Repubs can show you have a valid point about give to the rich and we'll all be better for it prepare for Obama's next 4 years.
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Simpleminds wrote:
<quoted text>All you Repubs need is to convince the 53% of American Obama voters how lower taxes on the rich will create jobs for everyone. Since you have NO historic proof of it, I don't know how you'll be able to however. The major problem is Democrats remember longer than Repubs do. We remember Reagan telling us if we just let the rich have more things will be better when it Trickles Down. Were they? Trickle was the right word for the middle class. Since Reagan middle class earnings have increased 18%. The top has increased 287%. We remember Bush and McConnell telling us we must lower taxes on the rich to create jobs. What happened with that? In the decade of Bush the US saw the worst job growth in the past 50 years.
So unless there is someway you Repubs can show you have a valid point about give to the rich and we'll all be better for it prepare for Obama's next 4 years.
I heard john kerry like to smell his own FARTS?
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I heard john kerry like to smell his own FARTS?
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YOU ALL MAKE ME SICK GET A LIFE.
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both bad
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Simpleminds wrote:
<quoted text>All you Repubs need is to convince the 53% of American Obama voters how lower taxes on the rich will create jobs for everyone. Since you have NO historic proof of it, I don't know how you'll be able to however.
Um...let's see: Kennedy's tax rate cuts were adopted in 1964, cutting the top tax rate from 91% to 70%, as well as reducing the lower rates. Over the next year, economic growth soared by 50%, and income tax revenues increased by 41%! By 1966, unemployment had fallen to its lowest peacetime level in almost 40 years.

Coolidge cut taxes: the U.S. economy to grow rapidly during the mid- and late-1920s. Between 1922 and 1929, real gross national product grew at an annual average rate of 4.7 percent and the unemployment rate fell from 6.7 percent to 3.2 percent. The tax cuts restored incentives to work, save, and invest, and discouraged the use of tax shelters.

Reagan:
1)when JimmyCarter's economic policies were in effect, family incomes plummeted by 9 percent, but that after Reagan's economic policies took effect (1982-89), family incomes rose by 11 percent.

2)The average annual growth rate of real gross domestic product (GDP) from 1981 to 1989 was3.2 percent per year, compared with 2.8 percent from 1974 to 1981 and 2.1 percent from 1989 to 1995. The 3.2percent growth rate for the Reagan years includes the recession of the early 1980s, which was a side effect of reversing Carter's high-inflation policies, and the seven expansion years, 1983-89. During the economicexpansion alone, the economy grew by a robust annual rate of 3.8 percent. By the end of the Reagan years, theAmerican economy was almost one-third larger than it was when they began.

3) employment rate went from 7.6% to the high of almost 10% when aggressively combating inflation, but dropped to 5.5% by the time he left office. Not to mention the record breaking numbers of new small business starts under Reagan thanks to his pro-business taxes, regulations and overall environment.
Simpleminds wrote:
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The major problem is Democrats remember longer than Repubs do. We remember Reagan telling us if we just let the rich have more things will be better when it Trickles Down. Were they? Trickle was the right word for the middle class. Since Reagan middle class earnings have increased 18%. The top has increased 287%.
You mean that since NAFTA was signed, and giving China "favored trade status" our middle class has been declining? How do you expect to grow wealth and the middle class when you have corporate cronyism and allowing our markets to be inundated with non-free market goods from China and other countries? We don't produce hardly anything in this country b/c the government makes it too damn expensive and the government doesn't call China out on their money manipulation b/c we owe them a trillion bucks...and we're manipulating our money even worse.
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We remember Bush and McConnell telling us we must lower taxes on the rich to create jobs. What happened with that? In the decade of Bush the US saw the worst job growth in the past 50 years.
GDP grew at an annual rate of just 1.7% in the six quarters before the 2003 tax cuts. In the six quarters following the tax cuts, the growth rate was 4.1%.

The S&P 500 dropped 18% in the six quarters before the 2003 tax cuts but increased by 32% over the next six quarters.

The economy lost 267,000 jobs in the six quarters before the 2003 tax cuts. In the next six quarters, it added 307,000 jobs, followed by 5 million jobs in the next seven quarters.
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So unless there is someway you Repubs can show you have a valid point about give to the rich and we'll all be better for it prepare for Obama's next 4 years.
Have you noticed how Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, have become tax cuts for the Middle Class as referred to by Obama? lol As for the rest, see above
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Um...let's see: Kennedy's tax rate cuts were adopted in 1964, cutting the top tax rate from 91% to 70%, as well as reducing the lower rates. Over the next year, economic growth soared by 50%, and income tax revenues increased by 41%! By 1966, unemployment had fallen to its lowest peacetime level in almost 40 years.
Coolidge cut taxes: the U.S. economy to grow rapidly during the mid- and late-1920s. Between 1922 and 1929, real gross national product grew at an annual average rate of 4.7 percent and the unemployment rate fell from 6.7 percent to 3.2 percent. The tax cuts restored incentives to work, save, and invest, and discouraged the use of tax shelters.
Reagan:
1)when JimmyCarter's economic policies were in effect, family incomes plummeted by 9 percent, but that after Reagan's economic policies took effect (1982-89), family incomes rose by 11 percent.
2)The average annual growth rate of real gross domestic product (GDP) from 1981 to 1989 was3.2 percent per year, compared with 2.8 percent from 1974 to 1981 and 2.1 percent from 1989 to 1995. The 3.2percent growth rate for the Reagan years includes the recession of the early 1980s, which was a side effect of reversing Carter's high-inflation policies, and the seven expansion years, 1983-89. During the economicexpansion alone, the economy grew by a robust annual rate of 3.8 percent. By the end of the Reagan years, theAmerican economy was almost one-third larger than it was when they began.
3) employment rate went from 7.6% to the high of almost 10% when aggressively combating inflation, but dropped to 5.5% by the time he left office. Not to mention the record breaking numbers of new small business starts under Reagan thanks to his pro-business taxes, regulations and overall environment.
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You mean that since NAFTA was signed, and giving China "favored trade status" our middle class has been declining? How do you expect to grow wealth and the middle class when you have corporate cronyism and allowing our markets to be inundated with non-free market goods from China and other countries? We don't produce hardly anything in this country b/c the government makes it too damn expensive and the government doesn't call China out on their money manipulation b/c we owe them a trillion bucks...and we're manipulating our money even worse.
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GDP grew at an annual rate of just 1.7% in the six quarters before the 2003 tax cuts. In the six quarters following the tax cuts, the growth rate was 4.1%.
The S&P 500 dropped 18% in the six quarters before the 2003 tax cuts but increased by 32% over the next six quarters.
The economy lost 267,000 jobs in the six quarters before the 2003 tax cuts. In the next six quarters, it added 307,000 jobs, followed by 5 million jobs in the next seven quarters.
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Have you noticed how Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, have become tax cuts for the Middle Class as referred to by Obama? lol As for the rest, see above
Have you notices how the Bush tax cuts have added $3 trillion in red ink, yet the party wants to double down on its failed policy. I don’t suppose you could document your rant of inflated figures and misleading numbers?
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I can not imagine anyone that is a true 3rd, 4th, or 5th generation American and loves America could vote for Hussein Obama. He has three Muslim names. His father is a Muslim, his grandparents are Muslims as well as his aunt and uncles. He is very proud of his Muslim heritage.

See this; http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...
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I love America wrote:
I can not imagine anyone that is a true 3rd, 4th, or 5th generation American and loves America could vote for Hussein Obama. He has three Muslim names. His father is a Muslim, his grandparents are Muslims as well as his aunt and uncles. He is very proud of his Muslim heritage.
See this; http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...
Obama is the Devil incarnate :-)
You are suffering from xenophobia as well as theophobia -- go get help before you totally freak out! Barack Obama is actually a Hebrew name with African origins, meaning “lighting from a high place”. The name Barack Obama is also found in the Hebrew Bible.

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hey you u want info on ur iphone like how long ur warranty covers ur fone just click this link right here http://www.iphoneadmin.com its really easy to do just follow the instructions
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Just when you think Obama can't do anything more arrogant than the many arrogant things he has already done in the last 4 years...surprise! Is he trying to help Romney get elected? lol

His biggest regret is his "storytelling"? He doesn't regret record numbers of citizens unemployed on his watch and remain unemployed on his watch, he doesn't regret his failed policies that have caused a record number of American citizens living at or below the poverty level on his watch, he doesn't regret a record number of American citizens receiving some type of government assistance on his watch, he doesn't regret his puppet politicians forcing a law onto every man, woman and child in the United States of America and affecting one sixth of Obama's already horrible economy, he doesn't regret that he and his partners in crime never bothered to read what was in the biggest piece of (crap) "not a tax" tax legislation in our history, he doesn't regret the bullying and lying and stealing and cheating and deceiving and shady behind closed door deals it took to pass his legacy into law. He regrets that he couldn't convince more dumb asses to believe his storytelling attempts.

Wow. Simply wow!

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