Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Mona Lott wrote:

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Yeah, sure..... Just like when I pass out your posts in Times Square. I get them all to sign my petition to have you committed.

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If you read some of the voluminous amoun t of nonsense he posted over the years you will find the:

He fancies himself to be a businessman running a multinational conglomerate, he also claims he retired in his 30's, traveled around the world for 10 years and now he has got nothing better to do with his life then post nonsense on TOPIX from sun up to sun down 7 days a week...

Once he told us how he can pay someone $10K per year to sell gum balls for $1million bucks a piece...blah...blah... He calls that R & D.

He says President OBAMA destroyed the economy before he even became President...blah...blah.

Last night he told me on another thread that he gets his news from the comics section of the newspapers....

I think he is already committed and posting from some Mexican loonie farm...

Dr Everybody wrote:

<quoted text>That is conservative. The bigger the number the bigger the error.
When they postulated that the earth was 13.5 billion years old, they were off by 13.499,990 billion years and could only account for around 10,000 years scientifically.

Correct......
I agree it is a conservative number but it is enough to prove him wrong.....

Here Is One wrote:

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You really don't think that a christian reading some of the rose how post would take offense from them???
You really don't think that a parent reading that the rose ho said the parents should not have had their children in public if they don't want them to see two guys having sex would not be offended??
In reality many people that are ignorant about the gay community have no idea that people like him are out there defending these two perverts.....
And a parent gets very upset when told it is no big deal if two grown man expose themselves to their children....
And christians get very upset when they read that the rose ho says that anyone that believes in God is a moron....
And for you to think they would not be upset about things like this shows that you either feel the same way as he does or you just have your head in the sand....
Once again we thank the rose ho and his supporters....

Do you really think anyone believes ANYTHING you write, especially when they can see that you have intentionally misrepresented Rose's posts?

Dr Everybody wrote:

<quoted text>Oh no, we are wrong, the children with the neg judgits are the proof.
If we were right, then the children would give us neg judgits. I love it when there are 40 negative judgits but not one opposition poster. Makes you say, HA.

Yeah, especially since one can only "Judge" a post once.

Thought I would pour a little water on the flamers in this discussion. Gays are an extreme minority i the USA. They are just extremely vocal.

Contemporary research in a less homophobic environment has counterintuitively resulted in lower estimates rather than higher ones. The Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law, a gay and lesbian think tank, released a study in April 2011 estimating based on its research that just 1.7 percent of Americans between 18 and 44 identify as gay or lesbian, while another 1.8 percent -- predominantly women -- identify as bisexual. Far from underestimating the ranks of gay people because of homophobia, these figures included a substantial number of people who remained deeply closeted, such as a quarter of the bisexuals. A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey of women between 22 and 44 that questioned more than 13,500 respondents between 2006 and 2008 found very similar numbers: Only 1 percent of the women identified themselves as gay, while 4 percent identified as bisexual.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...

Muaaaaaahhh!!!!!

Dr Everybody wrote:

<quoted text>PLeazzzz. if one of your group of gaybots were to post that if a gay says that they were born gay, that is all the evidence needed, even if it contradicts the science evidence which proves that there is NO gay gene, you would agree with that poster.
Wait, stupid RoseHo has said this often and regularly to an asperger's degree.
If a person misrepresents on of Rose's posts, it is only because we only have the English language to go by in deciphering her obvious mental psychosis that stems from her male tranny gay issues.
So, everybody does believe her posts are just as she presents, stupid, dumb and clueless.

There is "science evidence that PROVES there is no gay gene?" Really? That may be true. But what makes you think that a "gay gene" is the ONLY thing that could make a person be born gay?

Since neuroscientist Simon LeVay reported a difference in the brain structure between gay and straight men in 1991, an entire scientific discipline has sprung up around the quest for a biological explanation of sexual orientation. And now LeVay, author of "Gay, Straight, and the Reason Why," explains where the science stands today. Although many details remain unresolved, he says, the general conclusion is quite clear: A person's sexual orientation arises in large part from biological processes that are already under way before birth.

May 31, 2011
Sexual orientation is not a matter of choice, it is primarily neurobiological at birth", Dr. Jerome Goldstein, Director of the San Francisco Clinical Research Center (USA) stressed today at the 21st Meeting of the European Neurological Society (ENS) in Lisbon. "There are undeniable links. We want to make them visible to the eye". At the congress he showed how the brains of people of different sexual orientations - gay, straight, bisexual - work in different ways, applying volumetric Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), functional fMRI scanning, and PET scanning.

http://genetics.thetech.org/original_news/new...
Human behavior is way too complex for a single gene to determine sexual behavior. But this isn't to suggest that there is nothing biological about human sexual behavior. There obviously is. And there is definitely something biological about human sexual orientation since most people are born with theirs. This is different than what a lot of people think. Many people incorrectly think that culture or how someone is raised has a significant impact on sexual orientation. These factors don't. Most research suggests that social factors like these have at best a very small effect on orientation.

Here Is One wrote:

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You have never read that radio carbon dating has been shown to be off as much as 150 million years on testing the same item?
/www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaur s/carbondating.html

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This is what happens when simpletons gain access to method for spreading their ill conceived ideas.

Radio carbon dating is only good for a little over 50,000 years. Having a margin of erro of 150 million years for carbon dating is like having a yard stick with an error of 2 miles. Other isotopes with much longer half lives (U238, U235, & K40) are studied from the rock surrounding the fossils to give age estimates. I'm quite certain you won't be very accepting of this though, so fire away with more of your lunacy.

Dr Everybody wrote:

<quoted text>PLeazzzz. if one of your group of gaybots were to post that if a gay says that they were born gay, that is all the evidence needed, even if it contradicts the science evidence which proves that there is NO gay gene, you would agree with that poster.

PLeazzzz. If one of your group of godbots were to post that if a christian says that god is real, that is all the evidence needed, even if it contradicts science, you would agree with that poster.

See how that works?

Justa me wrote:

Thought I would pour a little water on the flamers in this discussion. Gays are an extreme minority i the USA. They are just extremely vocal.
Contemporary research in a less homophobic environment has counterintuitively resulted in lower estimates rather than higher ones. The Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law
Muaaaaaahhh!!!!!

Too bad you didn't read the REAL report.
Key findings from the research brief are as follows: An estimated 3.5% of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual

Identify as LGB.

What does that mean in light of this finding: The two US surveys and the Australian survey all suggest that adults are two to three times more likely to say that they are attracted to individuals of the same-sex or have had same-sex sexual experiences than they are to self-identify as LGB.

Hmmmmm.... 2 to 3 times more. I guess that means the REAL number is closer to 10%, and isn't that what Kinsey found in 1948????

Dr Everybody wrote:

<quoted text>That is conservative. The bigger the number the bigger the error.
When they postulated that the earth was 13.5 billion years old, they were off by 13.499,990 billion years and could only account for around 10,000 years scientifically.

Thats a complete untruth. it is 4.54 billion to be more exact. Since the Big bang 13.7 milion tears =/- 1% the UNIVERSE has existed. You cannot keep simple timeline going in your opening statement. How can I go through the whole process if you cant keep the time straight.

naturalwonder wrote:

<quoted text>Thats a complete untruth. it is 4.54 billion to be more exact. Since the Big bang 13.7 milion tears =/- 1% the UNIVERSE has existed. You cannot keep simple timeline going in your opening statement. How can I go through the whole process if you cant keep the time straight.

You'll have better luck picking up manhole covers with a dust buster than you will trying to make someone like this understand anything based in science.

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>How would RnL diagnose infertility? Why?
We all understand gender segregation marriage is qualitatively different from gender diversity marriage. Vive le difference.
Keep marriage between husband and wife because the US Supreme Court has precedent that is right.

Hey Dumbazz Brian....how else ANYONE diagnose infertility? With a test!!!

NY Court Rules Calling Someone Gay Isn't Slander
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/05/31/us...

DOMA's Big Court Walloping

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/na...

Winston Smith wrote:

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You'll have better luck picking up manhole covers with a dust buster than you will trying to make someone like this understand anything based in science.

So what you're saying is that the world is only 6,000 years old? Right? LOL,WoW,who knew! Please tell me how any sane,logical critically thinking person could ever believe such balderdash? Don't tell me now,let me take a guess,Fundie's? Poor little misguided freaks! LOL

California Senate Passes Bill Affirming Clergy's Religious Freedoms

http://lezgetreal.com/2012/05/california-sena...

The California legislature is gearing up for the day when same-sex marriage is legal again in that state.

Very soon. You lost bigots. You spend millions of dollars but gay marriage is still the law of the land in California.

Mona Lott wrote:

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Do you really think anyone believes ANYTHING you write, especially when they can see that you have intentionally misrepresented Rose's posts?

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That is exactly what HERE IS ONE DOES

He misrepresents, obfuscates, spreads disinformation, he lies, put's words into people's mouths and when caught he just he plays dumb...

Moan a Lott wrote:

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Too bad you didn't read the REAL report.
Key findings from the research brief are as follows: An estimated 3.5% of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual
Identify as LGB.
What does that mean in light of this finding: The two US surveys and the Australian survey all suggest that adults are two to three times more likely to say that they are attracted to individuals of the same-sex or have had same-sex sexual experiences than they are to self-identify as LGB.
Hmmmmm.... 2 to 3 times more. I guess that means the REAL number is closer to 10%, and isn't that what Kinsey found in 1948????

I did read the entire report. That is why I inserted the link.
Your cut,edit & paste job left out the LGBS portion. Reread it girl-guy.
Thought I would pour a little water on the flamers in this discussion. Gays are an extreme minority i the USA. They are just extremely vocal.

Contemporary research in a less homophobic environment has counterintuitively resulted in lower estimates rather than higher ones. The Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law, a gay and lesbian think tank, released a study in April 2011 estimating based on its research that just 1.7 percent of Americans between 18 and 44 identify as gay or lesbian, while another 1.8 percent -- predominantly women -- identify as bisexual. Far from underestimating the ranks of gay people because of homophobia, these figures included a substantial number of people who remained deeply closeted, such as a quarter of the bisexuals. A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey of women between 22 and 44 that questioned more than 13,500 respondents between 2006 and 2008 found very similar numbers: Only 1 percent of the women identified themselves as gay, while 4 percent identified as bisexual.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2 ...

4 out of 100 such tremendous force to be reckoned with. Muaaaaaahhh!!!!!

RiccardoFire wrote:

<quoted text>Will you be satisfied with justice? Since he has been arrested and since you only know what he media accounts for, why can't we let the court decide? The problem is if Z is found not guilty of murder, you will be crying..Unfair. Next time a cute black punk beats your head in and breaks your nose, don't cry, just take it.

A 'cute black punk".

Friend...I grew up in rough neighborhoods and I can tell you dead on you're pretty dangerous to yourself.

I hope you don't this shit in public because you may not come home one night in one piece.

Just some advice.

Justa me wrote:

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I did read the entire report. That is why I inserted the link.
Your cut,edit & paste job left out the LGBS portion. Reread it girl-guy.
Thought I would pour a little water on the flamers in this discussion. Gays are an extreme minority i the USA. They are just extremely vocal.
Contemporary research in a less homophobic environment has counterintuitively resulted in lower estimates rather than higher ones. The Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law, a gay and lesbian think tank, released a study in April 2011 estimating based on its research that just 1.7 percent of Americans between 18 and 44 identify as gay or lesbian, while another 1.8 percent -- predominantly women -- identify as bisexual. Far from underestimating the ranks of gay people because of homophobia, these figures included a substantial number of people who remained deeply closeted, such as a quarter of the bisexuals. A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey of women between 22 and 44 that questioned more than 13,500 respondents between 2006 and 2008 found very similar numbers: Only 1 percent of the women identified themselves as gay, while 4 percent identified as bisexual.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2 ...
4 out of 100 such tremendous force to be reckoned with. Muaaaaaahhh!!!!!

Yes..... we're laughing all the way home from Court.

Funny that you can't see a difference between SELF identified LGB, and the actual total of all LGB. It's why the CDC uses "MSM" instead of "homosexuals" when they talk about AIDS. A large percentage of men who have sex with men do not self identify as gay.

Key findings from the research brief are as follows: An estimated 3.5% of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual
Identify as LGB.
What does that mean in light of this finding: The two US surveys and the Australian survey all suggest that adults are two to three times more likely to say that they are attracted to individuals of the same-sex or have had same-sex sexual experiences than they are to self-identify as LGB.
Hmmmmm.... 2 to 3 times more. I guess that means the REAL number is closer to 10%, and isn't that what Kinsey found in 1948????