D.A.R.E. cut back statewide

Full story: Columbus Dispatch

Two deputies who taught anti-drug lessons in Knox County schools are absent this academic year because they've moved from the classroom to the road.

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DARE should be ended

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Years ago I watched William Coulson speak on television about the reasons programs like D.A.R.E. are not a good thing. He had worked with Carl Rogers to develop such programs. Most people do not know this fact and continue to believe such programs actually discourage drug use. Much tax money has been spent using such programs and many have been enriched through such programs but ask yourself if they have fixed the problem. Coulson explained why they do not. However as long as the masses believe they work they will clamor to fund them.
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A political feel good program that could be made part of what teachers work with kids about. Using police resources is an expensive waste of monies better used someplace else.

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yeah because god knows we are winning the war on drugs.so this is definately not needed
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Just another example of government thinking about the immediate necessicatieis of the budget.Never thinking about the future of our children. Why teach them about not taking drugs? Why give them a chance to be sucessful in life? Government priorties are in the garbage. Want to read more bo to brianhankins.org .
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Would you hire a lawn care company to spray for weeds year after year if it was ineffective?

And when you told them that their treatment was ineffective they would reply... but the benefits of me stopping by, spraying and putting a little sign in your yard is well worth it...

Maybe some people would, but don't spend taxpayers money on it, spend your own.
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This program may keep 5th graders off drugs, but kids seem to forget the significance of what they learned in this program by the time they are 15. Then they start making fun of it. I wish it did work, but clearly it does not. The money can be better used in many other areas.
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Well, considering repeated studies have shown that DARE (and other programs like it) actually make young people MORE likely to try drugs, I can't say I'm crushed...

We need more effective ways of keeping teenagers off of drugs. For marijuana, I think it's simple: put it behind the counter with alcohol and cigarettes - which teens regularly report they have more trouble getting their hands on due to just such legal restrictions. For harder drugs, with real social consequences? I'm not sure I know the answer to that. But I know that DARE is having the exact opposite effect of what we want.

http://www.fcda.org/dare.html
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So it takes a severe economic downturn to finally make a dent in D.A.R.E., a program that long ago was proven to be ineffective and even counterproductive. Talk about wasteful spending.

D.A.R.E. rountinely presents misinformation about drug abuse (to them all use is abuse). For example, they dismiss any notion of "medical" marijuana (the quotation marks are D.A.R.E.'s). As kids get older, they realize some things they were "taught" simply don't square with reality.

The main problem, of course, is that drug abuse fundamentally is a health issue, not a law enforcement one.

We don't have plumbers teaching poetry in our schools although an occasional one might make a decent poetry teacher. But that's not what plumbers normally do. Likewise, a uniformed police officer sends a strange message to kids about the real problem of drug abuse.

Sure, an officer may establish good rapport with some of his students. Great, but not good enough.

On evidence-based criteria, D.A.R.E. simply receives a failing grade. It's time to sober-up and accept that fact.
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This may be a novel idea, but parents are the responsible entity for the proper education of their children - not police, or schools in general.

In the instance of D.A.R.E propaganda, I had my child removed from attending the classes.

Incidentally, the police "instructor" was a smoker, drinker and was found to be using his “badge power” to coerce young women - great role model.

See School Choice: http://www.friedmanfoundation.org/



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DARE is just a fun program. Drug prevention should be included in the school curriculum, taught by teachers, along with health and physical fitness. The real benefit is interaction with law enforcement officers at a young age. Find a way to have an officer visit a school once or twice a month, for an hour or so, and encourage children to take advantage of the visit to learn more about the role of a peace officer or seek guidance on problems they may be facing that pose a potential risk to the student. I wouldn't think this amount of time would negatively impact anyone's budget.
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Is when you see a crackhead stumbling around the eastside of Columbus wearing a DARE T Shirt.
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US American wrote:
Would you hire a lawn care company to spray for weeds year after year if it was ineffective?
And when you told them that their treatment was ineffective they would reply... but the benefits of me stopping by, spraying and putting a little sign in your yard is well worth it...
Maybe some people would, but don't spend taxpayers money on it, spend your own.
AGREED- Much like the War on Drugs, D.A.R.E. is a colossal waste of tax dollars. Ask any criminology expert at the university level, and they will flat out tell you that D.A.R.E. doesn't work.

Whenever we discuss cutting funding for D.A.R.E., someone comes out and cries "oh but what about the kids !!!???" My answer to that argument is that the kids are all stoned because D.A.R.E. much less the War on Drugs doesn't work.
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Looney Lizzy wrote:
This program may keep 5th graders off drugs, but kids seem to forget the significance of what they learned in this program by the time they are 15. Then they start making fun of it. I wish it did work, but clearly it does not. The money can be better used in many other areas.
The War on Drugs is really just "Welfare for Law Enforcement." We pay BILLIONS IN TAXES so that a bunch of cops can "play military games" with $200M blackhawk helicopters,$50K professionally trained German Shepherds, etc etc.
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Too much moeny spent on something that does not work! Just like all the stupid commercials ran on T.V.!

Concentrate on getting rid of the illegals, and the gang bangers! As long as there is money involved your not going to stop it. Just like prohibition!! How many years ago has it been and they still have not learned a thing. As long as there is demand, and there is, people will be involved in dealing, and pushing!
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Good idea, cut it out. When evidence has shown that while the "War on Drugs" and D.A.R.E. were simply set up to line someone's pockets & extremely ineffective.

Our own C.I.A. was responsible for much of the cocaine distribution in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_...

If memory serves me, this Just Say No, was started under Pres. Ronald Reagan.
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I think that one reason for its popularity is that it provided teachers with some extra (and always much needed) "planning" time. There may be other totally unrelated benefits, but it has long been disproven as an effective deterrent to drug use.
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Unemployment is up so drug testing companies are clamoring to sell more kits- it's a business and they don't do it because they care. I've already read several articles stating their businesses are taking a beating.

Watch them come after your children, "to protect them" and to encourage good, wholesome, collectivism and to get them used to giving up a few rights for perceived safety. Or to help horrible parents sleep better. Whichever way you look at it.

Oh and to fill in the bottom line by seeling their quota of kits, of course. There is always that.

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This is a phony program that does nothing to keep anyone off drugs.
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The children that take the D.A.R.E. program realize when they get older that they were being lied to.When they see a friend that smoked pot and didn't freak out like in the movie "Reefer Madness" upon smoking,they wonder what else the "government" was lying to them about,with regards to drugs.Most realize this "misinformation" leads to experimentation with more serious drugs.A good "anti drug" might be for (older kids)to see what a heroin addict does to get his drug for the day and how he looks while doing it!
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I personally do not think that the D.A.R.E programs works by itsself. My high school had a resource officer. I never once saw him do anything that remotely related to keeping the students informed and educated about staying off of drugs. I realize that not all resourse officers who are employed through the system are this worthless, but I do feel as though the people who are hired to do this job should be capable and willing to do so. I'm sure there are other resources officers that do care about the student's well being, as for what I have seen, that is not the case. The entire time I was in public schools (K5-12th grade) the only time I ever saw anyone that relates to this topic was at my high school, where he didn't care. It takes more than a warm body to prevent kids from doing drugs and doing the wrong thing.

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