Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

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Tink wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new s/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6 521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texa s-army-killer-linked-to-Septem ber-11-terrorists.html
<snip>Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.
Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen".
story at link

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>Well now, how could the Bush administration have missed this about Hasan for 7 years? Didn't they thouroughly investigate associates of the 9/11 attackers, especially the people where they worshiped? Could it have been that they were too obsessed with trying to connect Saddam to 9/11 and trying to sell an invasion of Iraq for other reasons? Heck, Bush even appointed him to a Homeland Security panel in 2008 because of his work at Walter Reed and his "muslimism"! Guess Bush was "fooled twice"?

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>Well now, how could the Bush administration have missed this about Hasan for 7 years? Didn't they thouroughly investigate associates of the 9/11 attackers, especially the people where they worshiped? Could it have been that they were too obsessed with trying to connect Saddam to 9/11 and trying to sell an invasion of Iraq for other reasons? Heck, Bush even appointed him to a Homeland Security panel in 2008 because of his work at Walter Reed and his "muslimism"! Guess Bush was "fooled twice"?

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BIBROC wrote:

<quoted text> Exactly who talked about Saddam and Iraq and the threat of weapons of mass destruction for years?

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Tink wrote:

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Probably because the man hadn't done anything yet you DA. Or are you suggesting Bush should have viewed all muslims as terrorists?

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>People that never said we should invade but that the Iraqis should replace their dictator who Reagan made more powerful and ruthless through his support. Why was Don Rumsfeld a "special envoy" to Saddam?

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>Oh! Well, the 9/11 terrorists "hadn't done anything" until they hijacked the planes! Nidal was talking trash, expressing his anti-Iraq war views for several years while working at Walter Reed and even tried to pay back the government for his education and resign from the Army but the Bush Admin wouldn't let him, why didn't they recognize and deal with his problems, they had 6-7 years of him complaining about the Iraq war and killing muslims while he was an officer in the Army, guess they were just too clueless and focused on invading Iraq and killing Iraqis.

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>Oh! Well, the 9/11 terrorists "hadn't done anything" until they hijacked the planes! Nidal was talking trash, expressing his anti-Iraq war views for several years while working at Walter Reed and even tried to pay back the government for his education and resign from the Army but the Bush Admin wouldn't let him, why didn't they recognize and deal with his problems, they had 6-7 years of him complaining about the Iraq war and killing muslims while he was an officer in the Army, guess they were just too clueless and focused on invading Iraq and killing Iraqis.

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Tink wrote:

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Can't exactly comment without some kind of information other than your rant. Got a link or two?

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Tink wrote:

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Besides I do believe the whole premise of the article is that there were warning signs that were not looked at seriously. Perhaps in an effort to appear PC. How would it look to discharge a muslim who willingly signed on to the US Military for voicing opposition to a war? There are probably lots of people who sign on for the education but balk at doing the duties they agreed to do in return. You don't get a ticket out of the service for not wanting to go to war. You're hatred of Bush is such a burden to you dude. He's been gone for a year now.... time for you to put on your big boy drawers and move on.
I'm all for removing all muslims from the military. Really wouldn't have a problem with returning every last one of them back to their sandbox. As you've noted many times today, they are ticking time bombs that we have no reason to suspect agree with the American way of life and freedom...you know because of that crusade thing.

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Tink wrote:

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Besides I do believe the whole premise of the article is that there were warning signs that were not looked at seriously. Perhaps in an effort to appear PC. How would it look to discharge a muslim who willingly signed on to the US Military for voicing opposition to a war? There are probably lots of people who sign on for the education but balk at doing the duties they agreed to do in return. You don't get a ticket out of the service for not wanting to go to war. You're hatred of Bush is such a burden to you dude. He's been gone for a year now.... time for you to put on your big boy drawers and move on.
I'm all for removing all muslims from the military. Really wouldn't have a problem with returning every last one of them back to their sandbox. As you've noted many times today, they are ticking time bombs that we have no reason to suspect agree with the American way of life and freedom...you know because of that crusade thing.

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>"Big Boy Drawers", that's funny! I'll quit bringing up Bush when you Repuglicans quit blaming Obama for what Bush did or did not do that caused the messes Obama has to fix! Hasan, fyi, was born in Virginia, USA, he was a "native born American" citizen! Spent his entire life living in VA until he went to DC to get his medical training via the US Army, not his fault "W" allowed 9/11 and then invaded Iraq under false pretences!

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bobette wrote:

There are probably lots of people who sign on for the education but balk at doing the duties they agreed to do in return. You don't get a ticket out of the service for not wanting to go to war.
Hit the nail on the head there!!

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Alberto Gonzo wrote:

<quoted text>Don't you read what you post? In one of your other posts, it referred to a fellow Doctor filing a complain about his "anti-American" rants and unprofessional behavior as well as others talking about his comments about killing of muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq by American soldiers. Unbelieveable, you don't even read what you post!

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BIBROC wrote:

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http://larrykelley.com/pages/print/B-05-12-22...

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thinker monkey wrote:

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oh boy! A link to BLOG (from 2005)! So, instead of your baseless opinion, you gave us some other guys. Great job!
From said blog: "To believe that the White House concocted a fable about WMD in Iraq, you would have to believe in a massive conspiracy involving not only the Bush people, but both Bill Clinton’s and George Bush’s CIA director, George Tenet; Bush’s first term secretary of state, Colin Powell; Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright; Clinton’s key NSC Persian Gulf adviser, Kenneth Pollack; and numerous WMD experts at the United Nations."
Yes, this has been proven to be true. Just read Tennet's book, read interviews with Powell, etc etc etc.
Great link, buddy.

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BIBROC wrote:

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http://larrykelley.com/pages/print/B-05-12-22...