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#41
Apr 6, 2009
 
Southern B wrote:
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How many people have lost their lives in areas affected by the proposed ordnance? The peaks creek folks lived in a flat area. The slide was not caused by development on slopes. These houses were constructed on an historic debris flow deposit. Debris builds up over hundreds of years and is mobilized by a heavy rain event. There was someone killed in Maggie Valley a couple of years ago. I am not as familiar with that site, but I do know that Maggie Valley has a much higher percentage of land slide deposited soils. My point is (likely beyond your grasp) poorly written ordnance such as this one will not save lives. They may make you feel better but they will not accomplish the desired goals. In my 20 years living in this area there have been the above mentioned incidents and no other ones that I know of. So counting the Maggie Valley death then there is one. I wonder if the Haywood County inspected that foundation during construction. Likely they did. So Big Brother did not catch this.
How many people died in car accidents around Asheville in the last 20 years? Should we then not ban driving? I feel bad for anyone who loses their home by landslide or by fire (much more common). But emotional responses to engineering problems always miss the mark. Why not come up with ordnance based on standard practices in both engineering and construction. If less than 0.1% of the homes constructed in steep areas are constructed outside of the normal standard of care, should we assume all are. That’s what you and many politicians are doing on this issue.
Very well said, Thank You
Joe Blow

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#42
Apr 6, 2009
 
Hey Kim,

F U
Dionysis

Asheville, NC

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#43
Apr 6, 2009
 
"With proper engineering you can build nearly anywhere."

That doesn't mean it should be done, only that it could.
Southern B

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#44
Apr 6, 2009
 
Dionysis wrote:
"With proper engineering you can build nearly anywhere."
That doesn't mean it should be done, only that it could.
Yes, I would agree. Usually the bad areas are weeded out by economics. It cost a lot money to build where you should not. But most areas that have been developed are OK. There are a few that should have never been developed. These are the exception and not the rule.
Pro Nature

Hendersonville, NC

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#45
Apr 6, 2009
 
On behalf of the mountain slopes where homes are being built, anyone with half a brain knows you don't build on a slope or at the top of a slope.
Until the demand for a "view" at the top of a hill came about,people built their homes at the bottom of a hill. By chopping down trees and removing rocks on a slope, you are inviting Mother Nature to cause massive landslides after heavy rains because there is nothing to hold the dirt back. Not only are you destroying hills and slopes with slope housing development practice, you are destroying precious wildlife habitat and muddying mountain streams which many depend on for their well water supply. Slope development is a totally destructive practice and against Mother Nature! Need I remind you that Mother Nature ALWAYS wins! Lawmakers should legislate reasonable slope development legislation to make homes safer and to lessen the negative impact on the surrounding environment.

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Since: Nov 08

Murphy, NC

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#46
Apr 6, 2009
 
Not sure why everyone seems to be getting bent out of shape by this editorial. The person is (self-admitted) a Realtor. It goes without saying that they are going to say things that advocate the sale of land/houses, no matter whether there is common-sense arguments behind the sales.

It's like blasting a priest for preaching, or a teacher for educating.

So, let's all just relax, understand this this person has a strong personal bias on the matter (ie: they make their career bucks off of it), and appropriately discount their position on the matter in favor or more impartial opinions.

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Since: Nov 08

Murphy, NC

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#47
Apr 6, 2009
 
Correction: "or" should read "of"
Sell That

Hendersonville, NC

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#48
Apr 6, 2009
 
squidlyman wrote:
Not sure why everyone seems to be getting bent out of shape by this editorial. The person is (self-admitted) a Realtor. It goes without saying that they are going to say things that advocate the sale of land/houses, no matter whether there is common-sense arguments behind the sales.
It's like blasting a priest for preaching, or a teacher for educating.
So, let's all just relax, understand this this person has a strong personal bias on the matter (ie: they make their career bucks off of it), and appropriately discount their position on the matter in favor or more impartial opinions.
Because a realtor states the obvious that it is OK to build on a slope with all the proper engineering reports and disclosures what is your problem?
Why blame the realtor? Maybe one day they will have to sell your little mobile home next to the creek in that little MH park you must live in.

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Since: Mar 07

Texas & WNC

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#49
Apr 6, 2009
 
squidlyman wrote:
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As we look up and regard the now populated ridges and hills as "ugly" with the mega-homes, let us not forget to also look down and see the mess we've below. While I certainly do not support the silly "summer homes" being built in irresponsible areas like the ridge-lines, I find it tough to believe that anyone who has spent their outrageous sums of money on those homes is the kind that would then follow-up their investments by launching their Bud Light cans (or pick your favorite beer flavor) out the car window and onto the road.
Side note to this story, and moral of my rant is: the finger points both ways! We can't accuse others of "uglifying" our area while we ourselves do the same... just in a different spot.
Excellent post!

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#50
Apr 6, 2009
 
why are people upset? Because it is home. Not just homes...but home.

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Since: Nov 08

Franklin, NC

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#51
Apr 7, 2009
 
Sell That wrote:
Because a realtor states the obvious that it is OK to build on a slope with all the proper engineering reports and disclosures what is your problem? Why blame the realtor? Maybe one day they will have to sell your little mobile home next to the creek in that little MH park you must live in.
Clearly, you failed to absorb my meaning properly, and then over-react with a poor and misguided attempt to insult. How pitiful and sad...
Bubba

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#52
Apr 7, 2009
 
Pro Nature wrote:
On behalf of the mountain slopes where homes are being built, anyone with half a brain knows you don't build on a slope or at the top of a slope.
Until the demand for a "view" at the top of a hill came about,people built their homes at the bottom of a hill. By chopping down trees and removing rocks on a slope, you are inviting Mother Nature to cause massive landslides after heavy rains because there is nothing to hold the dirt back. Not only are you destroying hills and slopes with slope housing development practice, you are destroying precious wildlife habitat and muddying mountain streams which many depend on for their well water supply. Slope development is a totally destructive practice and against Mother Nature! Need I remind you that Mother Nature ALWAYS wins! Lawmakers should legislate reasonable slope development legislation to make homes safer and to lessen the negative impact on the surrounding environment.
Who says you don't build on a slope or top of a slope? Where is that written? Years ago when people built at the bottom of a hill, it was because they didn't have things like CARS to take them to the top; they had to walk. And they didn't have equipment capable of drilling a 500' well. They also had to chop wood to heat with, watched their children die for lack of medicine, and had no electricity. Are you also suggesting we go back to those days too?
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#53
Apr 7, 2009
 
Jim wrote:
Sound like Kim Evans is more worried about her commission on the sale than the lives she may place at risk. It typical Realtor though, there only in it to make a sale and get there cut. There all a bunch of snakes in the grass.
Kim Evans does not have to worry about her commissions. She is an astute business woman who probably makes a hell of a lot more than YOU. Doubtful you have EVER EARNED any commissions, have you?
Did you attend or graduate from government screwls?
call me Loco

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#54
Apr 7, 2009
 
what's new, only thing Realtors want is money. They cause bank failures by over pricing property.

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#55
Apr 7, 2009
 
call me Loco wrote:
what's new, only thing Realtors want is money. They cause bank failures by over pricing property.
Hey Loco Realtors dont price the properites. Owners do.

Since: Feb 08

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#56
Apr 7, 2009
 
call me Loco wrote:
what's new, only thing Realtors want is money. They cause bank failures by over pricing property.
Banks get appraisals on property that they finance. People can also get appraisals of property they wish to purchase.
Bank failures happen when people do not make the payments. If you can not afford the payments, it would be better to not purchase a home that you can not afford. The city/county gets more tax money based on higher appraisals.
Home prices go down when people stop purchasing over priced homes.
darla

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#57
Apr 7, 2009
 
Ravenz Moon wrote:
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Hey Loco Realtors dont price the properites. Owners do.
True. And reasonable owners will base the listing price on an appraisal -- which can only be conducted by a licensed appraiser, not a realtor.

Since: Jul 07

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#58
Apr 16, 2009
 
JUST WONDERING WHY MS EVANS IS SPEAKING FOR ME? I'M A REALTOR AND I AM FOR STEEP SLOPE LEGISLATION.

MS. EVANS, CLEAN UP THE MESS YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE IN THE ABR AND STOP RUNNING FOR MAYOR. LOL

"Realtors share those concerns and are worried about adversely affecting the affordability of housing, especially during this economic decline."

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