Guns in restaurants draw stares but little outcry

HG Robinson wrote:

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Typo, I mean to write "shotgun", not "shutgun".
Why you calling me a pedophilla? I don't lust for children, never have - what is this some kind of new racist attack to discredit me?
Why don't you find me some news stories in Hampton Roads where people carring guns in resturants have saved lives? Carring guns is all about 'what if' stuff. I don't carry a gun and I have never had a problem. My workplace, my church, and my home are all Gun Free Zones and we have never had any problems with violence.

"Thus the peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned, while they neglect the means of self defence. The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves."

- Thomas Paine, Thoughts On Defensive War. Pennsylvania Magazine, July, 1775.
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HG, I don't know about Newport News, but across the water down in Chesapeake the average police response time to a 911 call for help is 9.5 MINUTES. Pickup your cell phone and a watch and see how many times you can yell help help help in 9.5 minutes.
In my world there's only 4 words: STOP, DROP THAT WEAPON, and maybe not even that many.
The difference is in reality you'll be stopped
by word 5 or 6 and never speak again, while I'll be alive to then call 911 and go home to my family that night.

HG,
You ought to ask Gov. Kaine why he veto'd concealed carry carry in restaurants, that mandated no alcohol consumption, yet Commonweatlth Attorney's, with no requirement for training that we CHL holders must certify, to carry and consume at the same time. I don't know about you Sir, but I'd be more wary of a Lawyer with a Drink and an Automobile (see Sen. Kennedy, Rep. Kennedy, et al) and a Firearm, than I would a thousand law abiding Virginia CHL holders. When armed, we tend to be more polite and much more law abiding that the average citizen, as we have much more to lose, wouldn't you say?

HG Robinson wrote:

Sounds like a bunch of cowboys too me. There is no reason for them to need a gun. These are probably middle aged white men who have brought into the Republican fear that the Black man is going to get them. Better get strap on your guns boys.
I'm glad the restuarant managers are asking them to leave! I wouldn't want to eat with a bunch of crazy gun nuts. What happens when these people start drinking. They were lucky there were no accidential shootings.

"The gun owners bristle at that stereotype. Nearly 100 people attended the various lunches and dinners, including many retired military personnel. Others were white-collar professionals. While most were white men, the group included blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women."

Did you miss the above paragraph of the article that stated more than just whites were involved in this?

Chances are you have dined in restaurants with concealed carry folks, that were in fact armed, and you never knew it.

HG Robinson wrote:

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Because I write educated I get asked a lot if I am white... No, I am a Black male. I am above 50. And no I did not vote for Nixon! McGovern in '72 and I'm voting for Obama in '08.

Voted for McGovern in '72,,,, There you have it folks. This is what's refered to as a "yellow dog Democrat", they would vote for a yellow dog if it was a Democrat,,, instead of using reason to pick a candidate. The majority of black people have been in the back pocket of Democrats since the liberal give away programs have made them "entitlement junkies". Don't let the facts get in the way, just pull the lever for the Democrat. After all, that's what I was paid to do.

Luuccy wrote:

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"The gun owners bristle at that stereotype. Nearly 100 people attended the various lunches and dinners, including many retired military personnel. Others were white-collar professionals. While most were white men, the group included blacks, Hispanics, Asians and women."
Did you miss the above paragraph of the article that stated more than just whites were involved in this?
Chances are you have dined in restaurants with concealed carry folks, that were in fact armed, and you never knew it.

Of course HG missed that. He has his own racist views and is not about to let them be clouded by reality.

You Cant Fix Stupid wrote:

Was anyone shot? Was a pistol removed from holster and brandished? Saslaw, Gabba and Pip need to grow up and stop pouting.

I believe in the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

I attended a wedding in Virginia a couple of years ago. One of the guests at the wedding was carrying his pistol openly. I noticed (because I tend to notice such things) but made no comment. Neither did anyone else at the wedding or reception.

It was just no big deal.

I know the mother of the groom is somewhat anti-gun...not vehemently so, but a little. I know she never let her children have even toy guns. She didn't say a word the the armed gentleman, though I'm sure she saw the pistol.

The bride is a competition 3 gun shooter, so I know it didn't bother her. I think the gentleman was a member of her shooting club.

I was also carrying, but concealed as is my wont. I'm pretty sure that everyone there that knew me, knew that. No one commented to me either.

No one seemed to think carrying a gun at a wedding or reception was unusual.

The groom's grandmother, a vehement Democrat, didn't seem to mind at all.

Of course she still has that Taurus .22 magnum revolver I gave her for a present.....

HG Robinson wrote:

Sounds like a bunch of cowboys too me.

Cowboys ...

Is that the best one liner you could manage to muster?

And, why 'cowboys?' Why not 'da boyz in da hood?'

HG Robinson wrote:

There is no reason for them to need a gun.

How would >YOU< know?

Have >YOU< lived their lives?

And according to >YOU<, why a woman found face-down in an ally, raped, stabbed, and bleeding to death is morally superior to a woman found standing over her attacker, with a smoking gun in her hand, right?

Right?

HG Robinson wrote:

These are probably middle aged white men who have brought into the Republican fear that the Black man is going to get them.

So then, it's all a matter of 'black and white,' right?
No Mexicans, or Asians, or Indians? Just black and white?

HG Robinson wrote:

Better get strap on your guns boys.

You should ~seriously~ consider popping some anti-bigot pills. You know, so that you don't come off so bigoted ...

HG Robinson wrote:

I'm glad the restuarant managers are asking them to leave! I wouldn't want to eat with a bunch of crazy gun nuts.

What gives you to believe that >YOU< have the right to tell others how to live their lives?

HG Robinson wrote:

What happens when these people start drinking. They were lucky there were no accidential shootings.

If you had a gun, would >YOU< start shooting people?

If not, then how do >YOU< figure others will? Or, is it just white boys who do that sort of thing, in >YOUR< world? And blacks ~never~ do anything bad?

So, let's see if I understand your particular mindset. You don't like firearms, and so you would demand that other people not like them either? Did I get that correctly?

Gammler wrote:

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I believe in the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

Based on what?

Gammler wrote:

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I believe in the Second Amendment.

You start out okay, but then you squirt this out:

Gammler wrote:

Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

Why would that be, according to yourself?

Gammler wrote:

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I believe in the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

Why, I carry guns into restaurants that serve alcohol all the time.

I just don't drink.

I think you'll find, if you bother to ask, that most of those who carry a gun know better than to mix alcohol and guns.

Yes, I know there will be exceptions, but 20 years of CCW history in Florida shows we gun-toters are really, really law abiding.

Gammler wrote:

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I believe in the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

Happens all the time in states that don't prohibit it now. And go ahead, point out how many "OK Corral" shootouts have occurred in those establishments. We will wait for you to post them for us.

HG Robinson wrote:

Sounds like a bunch of cowboys too me. There is no reason for them to need a gun. These are probably middle aged white men who have brought into the Republican fear that the Black man is going to get them. Better get strap on your guns boys.
I'm glad the restuarant managers are asking them to leave! I wouldn't want to eat with a bunch of crazy gun nuts. What happens when these people start drinking. They were lucky there were no accidential shootings.

Have you always been an idiot, I carry and I have the right to carry and protect myself and my family, I could careless about your black man comment, the thugs, be it they are black, white purple it don't matter they will always have thiers you can not take them away, So as a lawful citizen I should have the right to LAWFULLY carry mine for protection

HG Robinson wrote:

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You know I'm right Bubba. Maybe you having a shutgun for hunting is okay, but there is no reason for people to be going out to eat in a fancy place dressed like cowboys.
Now I'm sure having a gun makes them feel like big men and all, but please give me a break.

Stay in your own little world, People like you are more dangerous then the gun carrying person..

Gammler wrote:

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I believe in the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

Conversely, because of the fact that imbibing alcohol makes some people incredibly violent and stupid. Bringing a firearm when you are going to have a few might be a very wise idea.

"The humiliation of our country is great, but let this emergency be rightly met, and our glory will also be greater. Old feudal laws, when men wore swords, forbade their use in palaces and other consecrated places. In this country the greatness of the emergency has consecrated even bar-rooms. Men used to brawl, abstain from blood. All are armed, but no man so vile that he does not feel the awful curse that will fall upon him who first takes a brother's life. Every day that men abstain renders a breach less probable. Still the responsibility of our rulers is great, and their consciences should be kept fully alive by the people they represent to the burthen that rests on them."

- For the North American and U. S. Gazette, "A. Countryman", Feb. 4, 1861.
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a bunch of paranoid beer drinking rednecks at a restaurant showing off their guns infront of children. that says it all.

mike wrote:

a bunch of paranoid beer drinking rednecks at a restaurant showing off their guns infront of children. that says it all.

An ignorant pompous fool slithers in for a post-n-run.

That says it all.

Don't let the door hit your head on the way out, mike.

Gammler wrote:

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I believe in the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, to bring a firearm into a place where alcohol is served is asking for trouble.

NO asking for trouble is if you the gun carrier, consumes alcohol..

mike wrote:

a bunch of paranoid beer drinking rednecks at a restaurant showing off their guns infront of children. that says it all.

You and HG should go wrap your your selves up like sourdough pretzels and make sweet love, you both sound like idiots