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cripin bitch AGGTOWN UP NAWF SIDE UP AND WE GONE RIDE UNTIL WE SLIDE EVERY HATERA FROM LEFT 2 RIGHT MEXICANZ RUN THIZ BITCH
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#241
Sep 2, 2009
 
NORTH SIDE wrote:
cripin bitch AGGTOWN UP NAWF SIDE UP AND WE GONE RIDE UNTIL WE SLIDE EVERY HATERA FROM LEFT 2 RIGHT MEXICANZ RUN THIZ BITCH
I do apologize but I did not understand what you were trying to convey. Can you please clarify it for me without the slang? A direct statement would be pleasant. This way your statement is clear for everyone. Not everyone understands that type of lingo. I don't think everyone "hates" that has written on this site. Sure a few have been rude but not all. Trying to help understand why gangs even exist and how to prevent it from happenning. What is AGG and NAWF?
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#244
Sep 4, 2009
 
NORTH SIDE wrote:
cripin bitch AGGTOWN UP NAWF SIDE UP AND WE GONE RIDE UNTIL WE SLIDE EVERY HATERA FROM LEFT 2 RIGHT MEXICANZ RUN THIZ BITCH
What language are you speaking? How old are you anyways? You don't sound very educated.
Boomer Sooner 2012

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#245
Sep 6, 2009
 
Cowtown Rebel wrote:
I've been talking about this for a long time. It seems that many, otherwise decent, people are either unaware or afraid to take a stand. As long as we allow these criminals to intimidate us, they will continue to be belligerent. The only answer is to meet force with force. To organize our neighborhoods and form alliances with like minded individuals. I would also recommend home schooling to prevent your children from being indoctrinated with the socialist propaganda that seems to be the only thing that, so called, "schools" are capable of teaching these days.
A great deal of the responsibility for the delinquent behavior of minorities, juveniles and adults, is the misguided sense of mistreatment and entitlement that they harbor. Poverty is not the reason for it. West Texas is among the poorest regions in the State, yet, it has the lowest crime rates. That is because hard working, Christian, White people inhabit that area. I don't know how many times I've seen some Black person talking on their cell phone at the grocery store, paying with a Lone Star Card and then putting their groceries into a Cadillac S.U.V.
Yes, the White race certainly has its share of ne'er do wells, dope addicts, punk rockers, people that look like they fell face first into a tackle box, etc.....but, by way of comparison, the number of crimes committed by minorities is far greater.
Additionally, there is a segment of the African - American population that rallies to the defense of every violent Negro that murders a Police Officer or group of Negroes that viciously assault a White person six against one. I recommend the approach that Pasadena took when Quanell X brought his odious horde there and tried to cause trouble.
Yes, statistically it is so that minorities commit higher amounts of crime BUT it's not because of race, it's because of culture, social and monetary issues. They are NOT given the same educational facilities or same resources as most affluent people are. There's a huge difference between schools that are primarily affluent and schools that are poorer. Minorities that tend to succeed attend schools in nicer areas because their parents have more money. There are poor White kids that go to schools that aren't as nice and fail. It has nothing to do with race but social roles.
Things are getting better but it's still a culture thing. Higher crimes in more dense areas. I'm not saying what you're saying is completely wrong. I personally think you have a really valid point. What I'm trying to say is that it cannot be blamed on race. That shoots us short of the real problem. People are poor and there will always be poor people. Again, it is fact that race percentage is leaning one way but there's more to it than just being a race. More Blacks are poor so you would expect that they'd turn to crime easier.
Boomer Sooner 2012

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#246
Sep 6, 2009
 
Are you for real wrote:
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I just didn't see everyone blaming Sam Houston....where did that come from? I do believe we were discussing gangs in Arlington. Where you on this site reading "everyone blames Sam". Hello, did they teach you to read or use crital thinking at Sam Houston? Can you please add to the site by voicing an opinion on gangs in Arlington in general and the topic at hand rather than taking items out of context? There are around 260 posts on this site on "gangs in Arlington" and "tons" about Sam houston is just, silly. Tons huh?
Not trying to be a smartass but you can see on the first two pages of this topic that Sam Houston did get stereotyped. Also, you shouldn't make fun of someone's education when you, yourself, don't even use correct grammar or spelling. It's "critical", not "crital". He has that right to put his opinion in and his was that the attention should be focused on more than just one area. Arlington, as a whole has problems. Not just Sam, not just east Arlington but EVERYWHERE there are problems.
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#247
Sep 6, 2009
 
Boomer Sooner 2012 wrote:
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Not trying to be a smartass but you can see on the first two pages of this topic that Sam Houston did get stereotyped. Also, you shouldn't make fun of someone's education when you, yourself, don't even use correct grammar or spelling. It's "critical", not "crital". He has that right to put his opinion in and his was that the attention should be focused on more than just one area. Arlington, as a whole has problems. Not just Sam, not just east Arlington but EVERYWHERE there are problems.
Little girl, I think you should return to Sam Houston to take a Fund. of Math class, I think you can not add, you saw "tons" of posts about Sam Houston? By the way, typo's do take place, but math is math. I think I did pretty well on typing as forI am on a 3 inch screen. Oh, not to be a "smartass".
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#248
Sep 6, 2009
 
Boomer Sooner 2012 wrote:
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Not trying to be a smartass but you can see on the first two pages of this topic that Sam Houston did get stereotyped. Also, you shouldn't make fun of someone's education when you, yourself, don't even use correct grammar or spelling. It's "critical", not "crital". He has that right to put his opinion in and his was that the attention should be focused on more than just one area. Arlington, as a whole has problems. Not just Sam, not just east Arlington but EVERYWHERE there are problems.
As far as your previous post, ever heard of reverse discrimination? They have been afforded the same education and the same jobs, look at the most recent Supreme Court Ruling! If Obama can make it, that shows that it can be accomplished. Can't play that card any longer. Members of my family can't get a job because the other races come before them even though they have beeter qualifactions. Everyone has choices, you can be poor and not be a gang banger or a thug no matter the race. The race card is so old.....
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#249
Sep 7, 2009
 
Are you for real wrote:
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As far as your previous post, ever heard of reverse discrimination? They have been afforded the same education and the same jobs, look at the most recent Supreme Court Ruling! If Obama can make it, that shows that it can be accomplished. Can't play that card any longer. Members of my family can't get a job because the other races come before them even though they have beeter qualifactions. Everyone has choices, you can be poor and not be a gang banger or a thug no matter the race. The race card is so old.....
you are correct.. I mean, it might make a little difference (difference meaning the environment) if you live in a poorer area and attend schools in that area but it all depends on if you really want to succeed in life or be a gangsta. I attended Sam Houston High School along with a lot of my friends and I can say that I think we are all doing pretty good in life. We went to the same high school as the gang bangers and thugs but we decided we wanted an education. That's the difference between us and them.
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#250
Sep 14, 2009
 
The illiterate idiocy so prevalent in today's society is clearly demonstrated by those who "support" gangs and a life of crime.

Reading posts here and elsewhere, one finds it impossible to believe that anyone under the age of 30 has spent any worthwhile time in school or in the study of proper English grammar.

Get out of the streets, grab some books, and LEARN something valuable! Work toward becoming productive members of society, because it is an undeniable fact that this species is dominated by imbecilic, wasted minds.
mobbTX

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#252
Sep 30, 2009
 
tulsa oklahoma wrote:
its u.t.g. noy lynch snitch mob and da mob is weak and i bet if all da utg get out jail dey can run threw da mob and we run da aggtown and 2100blk keep it pimpn bra but its bhd utg yg
yall aint fina run through shit yall weak as hell 2100 zone1 in this bitch we run the agg
Arlington Citizen

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#253
Sep 30, 2009
 
You don't run anything. You wanna be's are out numbered by law abiding citizens and will protect themselves, family and property. Maybe one day you can "run" your own prison cell while your taking it up the behind!
SBIG

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#254
Oct 8, 2009
 
I've lived in Arlington for 22 years, first on the East side near Browning and Park Row, then on the West side near Pantego and now on the North side. I'm white, and I've walked at night hundreds of times through appartment communities of mixed race Arlington neighborhoods since I've been here, sometimes walking my dog and sometimes jogging. I jogged for three years in the late '90's at Sam Houston High School, sometimes both before dawn and after dark and sometimes in the afternoon with a black woman I ran with. I've jogged in my neighborhood off Lamar and Collins late at night. I was also married to an African American woman while living here.

The only crime I've ever been victimized by in Arlington was when a white lady from Dallas wrote me a hot check years ago for some photography equipment I sold her. I frequently hear stories of gang activity and I know it exists in some spots, but the same is true almost eveywhere. Arlington is no worse than any other city of 300,000 people. Short of a corrupt city administration and schools that tend to try to run roughshod over parents and kids, I've had few problems here.

People making a racial issue out of this are morons. Crime exists in higher concentrations where people live in poverty. There are deeply rooted societal reasons why poverty exists in high proportions in the black community, and it's got nothing to do with people being lazy or an of the other nonsensical stuff I've read here.
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#255
Oct 8, 2009
 
Maybe you have horse blinders on, or jogging with a black woman you were left alone??? Have you not kept up with the Arlington Gang force? Tell them there is not a problem. why was more added and they upped their tactical weapons to deal with the problem? Maybe you should tell them their stats are waaaaaay off. By the way, I am not a moron. I am just informed and can see open recordes.
SBIG

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#256
Oct 8, 2009
 
I am listening wrote:
Maybe you have horse blinders on, or jogging with a black woman you were left alone??? Have you not kept up with the Arlington Gang force? Tell them there is not a problem. why was more added and they upped their tactical weapons to deal with the problem? Maybe you should tell them their stats are waaaaaay off. By the way, I am not a moron. I am just informed and can see open recordes.
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm not sure what "open records" you are referencing, but juvenile records are sealed. I do research for a living and this area is one I am not only acquainted with, but I work in it.
Procurement patterns do not correlate with frequency of the problem. You need empirical data. Expenditures often result from federal grants, and LE departments access funds whether they need to or not like all public agencies. Federal drug seizure and forfeiture laws allow police to confiscate property and profit from the proceeds on its resale.

I included information about jogging with a black woman for the same reason I told you I was married to one; because being white and mixing in public with a black female makes you MORE not less of a target in a racially charged environment. My wife also had three teenagers from a previous marriage, so I've benefitted from a first hand view of black youth social circles most whites are not privy to.

The majority of what appears to be gang activity is merely kids trying to act cool by copying what they see in music videos. In my generation it was pot, beer bashes and hanging out at the game room playing foosball, now it's throwing symbols and talking ghetto, which many white kids also do. But most of these kids are not gangsters, they're just kids. It's the media driven hysteria surrounding teenage behavior that's the genesis for internet discussions like this one.

If you want some true facts, Google "mike males" AND guns AND youth...and read what a premier expert has found based on years of empirical research instead of supposition.

I speak as I do from knowledge on this issue. I've spent 20 years in both the mental health and the juvenile justice system in Texas and Tennessee. I've designed youth intervention programs and consulted with gang intervention specialists, including the Fort Worth Gang Intervention Task Force. At this moment I'm consulting with people starting a new gang intervention program here in Arlington, which is why I bumped into this thread to begin with. Locally, I've been intimately involved in the AISD's disciplinary discussions since 1997 when I was part of the court ordered task force designed to study so called zero tolerance policies. I've been a mediation & consulting specialist in Dallas and Tarrant County public schools in dozens of cases involving gang activity and other discipline issues.

I'm not saying no problem exists, but that it's significantly less than you imagine based on media reports. The Internet age has created a great deal of sensationalism out of wack with truth. Statistically, you are highly unlikely to EVER be victimized by a gang. You are FAR more likely to be the victim of violence in your own home. As I stated, 22 years living throughout this city, freely mixing with people of all races, even walking or running at night, plus I've traveled into places like Oak Cliff and South Dallas for work related reasons on a regular basis...and I've never received so much as a cross look, let alone an attack.
Obviously it could happen, especially if I were foolish enough to deliberately hang out in the Washington Street or East Park Row neighborhoods or frequent drug houses, but for the most part real gang activity is more limited in scope than you would guess from reading this discussion. I'm not saying it's not a problem...only that it's less than it's being made out to be in here.
1TimerLivinginSA rl-NMans

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#257
Oct 11, 2009
 
So whats the scoop? I see everyone has their own opinion on the Gang related subject line. If it never gets as bad as LA-Cali, then it is not bad. I have family in Dallas AO, but have not visited them since moving back here a yr ago, because of my job abroad. So someone tell me, because Live in the Sublett and Matlock area and I dont see any sprayed fences, and constant drive-bys, or even helicopter lights shining on the homes in my neighborhoods. So how bad is it, really???
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#258
Oct 11, 2009
 
1TimerLivinginSArl-NMans wrote:
So whats the scoop? I see everyone has their own opinion on the Gang related subject line. If it never gets as bad as LA-Cali, then it is not bad. I have family in Dallas AO, but have not visited them since moving back here a yr ago, because of my job abroad. So someone tell me, because Live in the Sublett and Matlock area and I dont see any sprayed fences, and constant drive-bys, or even helicopter lights shining on the homes in my neighborhoods. So how bad is it, really???
Honey, you are right there. It's all moving west down Sublet. The city gives the propery owners 24 hours to get markings off their property. Arlington does not have copters!
as far as the whilte man married to a black woman, if you do research, such as I do you a living. Why in the hell don't you know what open records are. The Freedom of Information Act, otherwise knoown as the Open Records Act.
You also don't live in a gang infested area. IF they are minors, personal info will be marked out.
Not all of these ganger are under age.
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#259
Oct 11, 2009
 
SBIG wrote:
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You couldn't be more wrong. I'm not sure what "open records" you are referencing, but juvenile records are sealed. I do research for a living and this area is one I am not only acquainted with, but I work in it.
Procurement patterns do not correlate with frequency of the problem. You need empirical data. Expenditures often result from federal grants, and LE departments access funds whether they need to or not like all public agencies. Federal drug seizure and forfeiture laws allow police to confiscate property and profit from the proceeds on its resale.
I included information about jogging with a black woman for the same reason I told you I was married to one; because being white and mixing in public with a black female makes you MORE not less of a target in a racially charged environment. My wife also had three teenagers from a previous marriage, so I've benefitted from a first hand view of black youth social circles most whites are not privy to.
The majority of what appears to be gang activity is merely kids trying to act cool by copying what they see in music videos. In my generation it was pot, beer bashes and hanging out at the game room playing foosball, now it's throwing symbols and talking ghetto, which many white kids also do. But most of these kids are not gangsters, they're just kids. It's the media driven hysteria surrounding teenage behavior that's the genesis for internet discussions like this one.
If you want some true facts, Google "mike males" AND guns AND youth...and read what a premier expert has found based on years of empirical research instead of supposition.
I speak as I do from knowledge on this issue. I've spent 20 years in both the mental health and the juvenile justice system in Texas and Tennessee. I've designed youth intervention programs and consulted with gang intervention specialists, including the Fort Worth Gang Intervention Task Force. At this moment I'm consulting with people starting a new gang intervention program here in Arlington, which is why I bumped into this thread to begin with. Locally, I've been intimately involved in the AISD's disciplinary discussions since 1997 when I was part of the court ordered task force designed to study so called zero tolerance policies. I've been a mediation & consulting specialist in Dallas and Tarrant County public schools in dozens of cases involving gang activity and other discipline issues.
I'm not saying no problem exists, but that it's significantly less than you imagine based on media reports. The Internet age has created a great deal of sensationalism out of wack with truth. Statistically, you are highly unlikely to EVER be victimized by a gang. You are FAR more likely to be the victim of violence in your own home. As I stated, 22 years living throughout this city, freely mixing with people of all races, even walking or running at night, plus I've traveled into places like Oak Cliff and South Dallas for work related reasons on a regular basis...and I've never received so much as a cross look, let alone an attack.
Obviously it could happen, especially if I were foolish enough to deliberately hang out in the Washington Street or East Park Row neighborhoods or frequent drug houses, but for the most part real gang activity is more limited in scope than you would guess from reading this discussion. I'm not saying it's not a problem...only that it's less than it's being made out to be in here.
Honey, you are right there. It's all moving west down Sublet. The city gives the propery owners 24 hours to get markings off their property.
as far as the whilte man married to a black woman, if you do research, such as I do you a living. Why in the hell don't you know what open records are. The Freedom of Information Act, otherwise knoown as the Open Records Act.
You also don't live in a gang infested area. IF they are minors, personal info will be marked out.
Not all of these ganger are under age.
SBIG

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#260
Oct 14, 2009
 
I am listening wrote:
<quoted text>as far as the whilte man married to a black woman, if you do research, such as I do you a living. Why in the hell don't you know what open records are. The Freedom of Information Act, otherwise knoown as the Open Records Act.
You also don't live in a gang infested area. IF they are minors, personal info will be marked out.
Not all of these ganger are under age.
I didn't say I didn't know what the Open Records Act/FOIA was. I asked you what records you are talking about. Court records for minors are sealed, so I was asking what you were referring to since those records are not subject to the FOIA. If you're going to reference statistics you need something tangible to point to instead of a vague reference to "open records".
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Oct 14, 2009
 
SBIG wrote:
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I didn't say I didn't know what the Open Records Act/FOIA was. I asked you what records you are talking about. Court records for minors are sealed, so I was asking what you were referring to since those records are not subject to the FOIA. If you're going to reference statistics you need something tangible to point to instead of a vague reference to "open records".
Then you know that minor info is "blackened out" Mr. know it all! You can still see the crimes and incident reports.
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Oct 15, 2009
 
I am listening wrote:
<quoted text> Then you know that minor info is "blackened out" Mr. know it all! You can still see the crimes and incident reports.
So because you know that police reports are filed for criminal activity that might be classified as "gang" related, in your mind this tells you how significant the problem is? Apparently you're not understanding what I'm saying. If you want to disucss the prevalence of this problem you need some sort of baseline statistical data and research that examines it. Show me statistical studies that cite police or FBI crime statistics showing that "gang" crime in Arlington is increasing in frequency or that compares the number of reported incidents, arrests or convictions with cities of similar size over time. Simply making some kind of vague reference to "open records" tells us nothing. Your posts seem to indicate you have exhaustively studied the "open records" (actually I don't think you need to do a FOIA request for this) related to this so I'm sure you have that information...right?
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