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Global warming lawsuit settled

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A federal lawsuit involving the city of Arcata that sought to force two U.S. agencies to address the global warming implications of their overseas financing activities was settled last week after more than six ...

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domino 21

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Now, since their is no solid science behind this man-made global warming religion we are going to get lawyers involved. Greenpeace et al get your nutty religion out of my business. Are we in a climate change cycle? Probably. Is it man made? Highly unlikely. When were the hottest years on record? The 1930's, think dustbowl, Al Gore's movie used data from NASA that later proven to be incorrect. The largest methane producers are swamps amd marshes. Some trees produce excess carbon dioxide. Please seek counseling if you really believe in the myth of man-made global warming.
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Sun spots cause Global Warming. The sun spots have recently gone away. Using fossil fuels and burning coal causes Air Pollution, not warming. There is a difference between the two.
Jimmys Crack Corn

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We got the most snow ever for Deceber. What do you think they will say now?"
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hotest period in Quaternary was about 7000 years ago. Not too many suv's then.
its cold here

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Thought it funny when the inventor if the Internet, Al Gore, went to DC a couple of weeks ago to peddle his global warming hysteria smack dab in the middle of an ice storm. He uses more energy in his Tenn. home a month that six normal households do. Hypocrite!
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It's funny how the top elite in the new push to tax carbon output care about Global Warming but forget to mention that genetically modified crops and organisms are polluting and mutating Nature's gene pools of naturally evolved crops and organisms.

“Fred's Humboldt Blog”

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George Will had a fun read on global warming and other alarmisms in today's Sacramento Bee:
http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/story/1627708.h...
Jeff

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What will Californians do when they discover there's no longer enough electricity to go around? What will they do when the price of their electricity skyrockets? What will they do when they see businesses relocating to other states, where there IS enough electricity to run their factories? What will Californians do when their tax base shrinks?

What will Californians do when they realize they've been lied to about man made global warming? What will they do when they realize how much it cost them to make nary a dent in reducing global warming?
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So where does Octomom and the 14 kids fit into all this silliness??????????
global cooling

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wow. common sense ruling the times standard comments section. where's jason for a good laugh?

Mark Andre reall needs to get his head examined. I hope the taxpayers of Arcata didn't foot a cent in the cost of this litigation.

And just goes to prove once again that courts are not about truth or justice.
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Jimmys Crack Corn wrote:
We got the most snow ever for Deceber. What do you think they will say now?"
they will say "climate change" instead of "global warming". That way, no matter what happens, they MUST be right!
jason

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I am here, reading the failures of our education system exhaust all the tired old argument for keeping thier head in the sand.

Boy do I yearn for a day of reason, understanding, and science based investigation.

I would even love to be proven wrong on ANY issue that I take a stand on.

But mental dribble like what is being bantered about here is not going to do it. None of your show that you even understand the issue in it's full context. The limp 'snowy december' comment is great proof of that! And Al gore's heating bill being somehow relevant to science!?! How did they give you a passing science grade in JR HIGH???

Enjoy it while you can. Enough people care to understand and are will to make the difficult changes that you people are too selfish and afraid to make. We will make a better future with or without you.

Your stale thinking will be gone with your generation.
The Emperor of Climate

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I judge this thread a candidate for a game of Global Warming Skeptic Bingo. Splot the same old tired skeptic arguments.

"When were the hottest years on record? The 1930's"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/1934-hottest-...

"Sun spots cause Global Warming"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activit...

"We got the most snow ever for Deceber"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warmin...

"hotest period in Quaternary was about 7000 years ago. Not too many suv's then."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-chang...
Barbara Samardich

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Boy, what a bunch of crap! There has been no debate on the issue of CO2 being a prime motivator in Al Gore's supposed "Global Warming" issue put forth in an "Inconvenient Truth," yet the city of Arcata is willing to waste its energy and tax dollars pursuing this. Another scientific meeting of climatologists, and physicists will take place in early March. Al Gore, James Hansen and other IPCC scientists have been invited to speak and make their case. Guess what - not a single one has accepted. And we all know why - they cannot make a scientifically backed case in front of their peers. More government waste and you expect the average citizen to just keep bending over.
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I believe any "failure" of the above posters, in relation to the education system, is that they probably did get passing grades in science when science was still being taught in school. Now the "science" being taught is the "science" of "feeling good about the <insert cause of the day>". My son brought up some of the problems with the current global warming beliefs with his science teacher. Her only comment, without looking at his supporting documentation, was "that is what a lot on the right believe". Then she continued on ignoring him. How is that teaching science? When I was in school science was about investigating and experimenting with nature and the world around us so we could hopefully better understand it. Have the Global Warming crowd suddenly solved EVERY possible variable in the equation and have a perfect understanding of the processes involved? They believe they have moved Global Warming Theory into the realm of Global Warming Fact. Anyone disbeliving their new Fact must be spouting dribbel and are obviously incabable of understanding the superior intellects of those in the know.

I have to ask how Global Warming believers be so self-centered and egotistical to think that the amount of carbon-dioxide people create compares to the amounts of carbon-dioxide put into the system from such sources as volcanoes and other naturally phenomenon. Termites produce tremendous amounts of methane but because they aren't something that we control the global warming extremists never mention those.
The Emperor of Climate

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anonymous wrote:
I believe any "failure" of the above posters, in relation to the education system, is that they probably did get passing grades in science when science was still being taught in school. Now the "science" being taught is the "science" of "feeling good about the <insert cause of the day>". My son brought up some of the problems with the current global warming beliefs with his science teacher. Her only comment, without looking at his supporting documentation, was "that is what a lot on the right believe". Then she continued on ignoring him. How is that teaching science? When I was in school science was about investigating and experimenting with nature and the world around us so we could hopefully better understand it. Have the Global Warming crowd suddenly solved EVERY possible variable in the equation and have a perfect understanding of the processes involved? They believe they have moved Global Warming Theory into the realm of Global Warming Fact. Anyone disbeliving their new Fact must be spouting dribbel and are obviously incabable of understanding the superior intellects of those in the know.
I have to ask how Global Warming believers be so self-centered and egotistical to think that the amount of carbon-dioxide people create compares to the amounts of carbon-dioxide put into the system from such sources as volcanoes and other naturally phenomenon. Termites produce tremendous amounts of methane but because they aren't something that we control the global warming extremists never mention those.
You could fact check your own arguments first before assuming your Amazing Arguments are being ignored.

For a start volcanoes emit far less co2 than humans.

Perhaps what you humerously suggested here:
"Anyone disbeliving their new Fact must be spouting dribbel and are obviously incabable of understanding the superior intellects of those in the know."

Is actually quite close to the mark. It's not that they *must* be spouting dribble, but that they usually are. You can't expect to come ignorance of the subject and find some Amazing Argument against manmade global warming that all the experts have somehow missed.
Chicken Little

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The Emperor of Climate wrote:
I judge this thread a candidate for a game of Global Warming Skeptic Bingo. Splot the same old tired skeptic arguments.
"When were the hottest years on record? The 1930's"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/1934-hottest-...
"Sun spots cause Global Warming"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activit...
"We got the most snow ever for Deceber"
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warmin...
"hotest period in Quaternary was about 7000 years ago. Not too many suv's then."
http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-chang...
Concensus??? Why of course there is concensus within the scientific community for global warming and we have lawyers to prove it.
"Green" will become the new "Organic" as clever hucksters get every-one to fork out the $ "green" for their products. Plus it helps if the government is involved to make sure you have no choice. The Socialist "Green" business people will reap their newly crafted profits. Democrat politicians will get their "kickbacks", "pork" and "earmarks". Poor people will find themselves unable to pay the higher costs because it's "Green" - just like "Organic" - making a mockery of "Social Justice". Skeptics will be beat with phrases like "Why Wouldn't You Do
Something To Save The World?" Arcata still won't be able to fix their roads and the "Nimbys" that make up the populace of Arcata will finally run the Endeavor" out of town.
Chicken Little

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The Emperor of Climate wrote:
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You could fact check your own arguments first before assuming your Amazing Arguments are being ignored.
For a start volcanoes emit far less co2 than humans.
Perhaps what you humerously suggested here:
"Anyone disbeliving their new Fact must be spouting dribbel and are obviously incabable of understanding the superior intellects of those in the know."
Is actually quite close to the mark. It's not that they *must* be spouting dribble, but that they usually are. You can't expect to come ignorance of the subject and find some Amazing Argument against manmade global warming that all the experts have somehow missed.
"...all the experts have somehow missed." What B.S. Another indefensible "premise". Try to prove that statement! A "primer" on how to self-destruct your argument
global cooling

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jason wrote:
I am here, reading the failures of our education system exhaust all the tired old argument for keeping thier head in the sand.
Boy do I yearn for a day of reason, understanding, and science based investigation.
I would even love to be proven wrong on ANY issue that I take a stand on.
But mental dribble like what is being bantered about here is not going to do it. None of your show that you even understand the issue in it's full context. The limp 'snowy december' comment is great proof of that! And Al gore's heating bill being somehow relevant to science!?! How did they give you a passing science grade in JR HIGH???
Enjoy it while you can. Enough people care to understand and are will to make the difficult changes that you people are too selfish and afraid to make. We will make a better future with or without you.
Your stale thinking will be gone with your generation.
Jason,

Have you ever taken a high school college prep chemistry or physics class? Have you taken a college level course in either chemistry or physics?

You have no idea the idiocy of the attempt to single out an infitismal increase in carbon dioxide levels to a direct relationship to the recent warming phenomena that is now beginning to dimminsh with time.

No Jason, you are ignorant of the facts. You as well as the rest of the lemmings have been lied to (notice I didn't say "liberal"?). And in your ignorance and fear that accompaines your ignorance, have resulted in your chicken little proclomations.

One of the earlier postes got it correct Jason. The sunspot activity that creats a solar wind of radioactive particles that affects the magnetosphere around the earth that reduces the earth's ability to repel ultraviolet radiation has subsided. The result is Alaska just experienced the coldest summer on record.

You have already shown your ignorance of Obama's so-called stimulus plan. So why I suppose should we expect anything less with your opinion on the golbal warming scam?
global cooling

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NASA Solar Physics solar sunspot monitoring at the Marshall Space Flight Center:

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycl...

If you refuse to see the correlation between the lowered sunspot activity since 2005 and the recent reversal in the climate, particularly there in Humboldt County since December 2007 was the 8th coldest December on record since 1886, then you are in serious denial.
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