"[I] Pray For Barack Obama To Die And Go To Hell" : The Story The Media Missed

"Many of the party’s early leaders were Christian Reconstructionists, or heavily influenced by Reconstructionism, including party founder and three-time presidential candidate Howard Phillips. Reconstructionism is a theocratic systematic theology whose seminal thinker, the late R.J. Rushdoony, spoke at the Constitution Party’s founding convention and was a longtime advisor to Phillips. Reconstructionism was one of the significant theological catalysts for the modern Religious Right—a movement, like other social and political movements throughout history, that has transcended party identification."

rushdoony wrote the book for the Dominionists movement. The Institutes of Biblical Law (73) he calls for a xtian society, that is unforgiving and violent. very calvin in its roots. xtians are the new chosen peoples - the world is to be subdued and ruled by a xtian US. he dismisses the holocaust as inflated, he believes in the basic premise of eugenics, hates the fed govt, education and social welfare should be handed to the churches (that he accepts a right teachers).

Robertson and his ilk are big fans. and this alleged small group of fringe xtians - are not so small and they are very well funded, politcally connected and organized.

their ideology doesnt have any notion of universal human rights - but rather the protection and promotion of bible believing xtians. they want to remove whole segments of society from the moral landscape...

anyone not with them is against them and is therefore subject to dismissal and death. sounds familiar, huh?

Yikes.

How do these freaks possibly think that they're good Christians/Americans?

Sick.

There will always be those who preach hate on both sides of the aisle.

Worrying? Perhaps. But we should all have less worry and concern about these people than we do about the current President of the United States, who for 20 years attended services by just such a radical hate-monger...without raising a single objection.

JRobert wrote:

There will always be those who preach hate on both sides of the aisle.
Worrying? Perhaps. But we should all have less worry and concern about these people than we do about the current President of the United States, who for 20 years attended services by just such a radical hate-monger...without raising a single objection.

and none of the sitting senators. past presidents didnt/doesnt attend whites only racist churches...? I do believe that we could dig up many a racist senator and president...

maybe obama was asleep like most church goers...and couldnt remember a damn thing being said for the front of the church...except "this session is over."

buts its ridiculous to isolate obama...one black man in 200+ years of racism is hardly a worry...you/others like you are the ones we should all be worried about.

Chicago Guy wrote:

Yikes.
How do these freaks possibly think that they're good Christians/Americans?
Sick.

And the very same people who think liberals are "traitors."

Let's see some of them get tried for ACTUAL treason. That should ruffle some feathers at GOP headquarters.

JRobert wrote:

There will always be those who preach hate on both sides of the aisle.
Worrying? Perhaps. But we should all have less worry and concern about these people than we do about the current President of the United States, who for 20 years attended services by just such a radical hate-monger...without raising a single objection.

Show me one sermon from Jeremiah Wright where he prayed for a white man to die. Just one.

That you would excuse the inexcusable speaks volumes about you.

Light Sensitive wrote:

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and none of the sitting senators. past presidents didnt/doesnt attend whites only racist churches...? I do believe that we could dig up many a racist senator and president...
maybe obama was asleep like most church goers...and couldnt remember a damn thing being said for the front of the church...except "this session is over."
buts its ridiculous to isolate obama...one black man in 200+ years of racism is hardly a worry...you/others like you are the ones we should all be worried about.

The hate mongering sermons of his 20 year pastor don't count because Obama probably slept through them? How ludicrous.

Since you claim he's "not the only one", go ahead and find a President, other than our current President, in the entire history of the country who sat through 20 years of sermons full of open hate like "God damn America!" without objecting.

Obama's racist and anti-American agenda is the one we should worry about. He's the one with the power to make it happen.

Chicago Guy wrote:

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Show me one sermon from Jeremiah Wright where he prayed for a white man to die. Just one.
That you would excuse the inexcusable speaks volumes about you.

What passes for rational argument among the left is disquieting.

I excused no one. My clearly stated point was that since Obama is the current President; since he's the one who listened, unobjecting, to 20 years of hate speech; and since he's the one with the power to make his agenda happen, we should be worrying far more about him than a preacher.

JRobert wrote:

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The hate mongering sermons of his 20 year pastor don't count because Obama probably slept through them? How ludicrous.
Since you claim he's "not the only one", go ahead and find a President, other than our current President, in the entire history of the country who sat through 20 years of sermons full of open hate like "God damn America!" without objecting.
Obama's racist and anti-American agenda is the one we should worry about. He's the one with the power to make it happen.

Grow up and get a clue. Rev. Wright was referring to slavery, the Vietnam War, the Iraq war, etc.
Rev. Wright served in Vietnam, as a Marine.
Everyone knows that black ministers use extreme rhetoric in their sermons. The news took what he said out of context and racist people, such as yourself ate it up. I happen to agree that the U.S. has committed many crimes. I could understand what Rev. Wright was saying, and I'm white.

As far as Obama, you're also clueless. Ponder this: THERE IS NO MORE LEFT/RIGHT PARADIGM. IT'S all a SHOW. CORPORATIONS have taken over the U.S., along with the INTERNATIONAL BANKS.
OBAMA IS A PUPPET, BUSH WAS A PUPPET, as have ALL presidents been, for ages. Most of our CONGRESS are corporate puppets. WE ARE MOVING TO A GLOBAL society, brought to us by the CORPORATIONS. Each successive president has moved us closer to it.

Ted Kennedy needs someone with him...........send bush also........

Tickedoffchick wrote:

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Grow up and get a clue. Rev. Wright was referring to slavery, the Vietnam War, the Iraq war, etc.
Rev. Wright served in Vietnam, as a Marine.
Everyone knows that black ministers use extreme rhetoric in their sermons. The news took what he said out of context and racist people, such as yourself ate it up. I happen to agree that the U.S. has committed many crimes. I could understand what Rev. Wright was saying, and I'm white.
As far as Obama, you're also clueless. Ponder this: THERE IS NO MORE LEFT/RIGHT PARADIGM. IT'S all a SHOW. CORPORATIONS have taken over the U.S., along with the INTERNATIONAL BANKS.
OBAMA IS A PUPPET, BUSH WAS A PUPPET, as have ALL presidents been, for ages. Most of our CONGRESS are corporate puppets. WE ARE MOVING TO A GLOBAL society, brought to us by the CORPORATIONS. Each successive president has moved us closer to it.

Black minster use extreme rhetoric in their sermons you know else uses extreme rhetoric terrorist.And appearantly Wright and the terrorist share the same view of this country.

JRobert wrote:

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What passes for rational argument among the left is disquieting.
I excused no one. My clearly stated point was that since Obama is the current President; since he's the one who listened, unobjecting, to 20 years of hate speech; and since he's the one with the power to make his agenda happen, we should be worrying far more about him than a preacher.

Fascinating.

Now do you care to comment on the topic of this thread?

son of Liberty wrote:

Ted Kennedy needs someone with him..........send bush also........

A bipartisan deathwish. I like your style. LOL

JRobert wrote:

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The hate mongering sermons of his 20 year pastor don't count because Obama probably slept through them? How ludicrous.
Since you claim he's "not the only one", go ahead and find a President, other than our current President, in the entire history of the country who sat through 20 years of sermons full of open hate like "God damn America!" without objecting.
Obama's racist and anti-American agenda is the one we should worry about. He's the one with the power to make it happen.

it was a joke dumbass...I dont think most pew-sitters pay much attention, period.

lets look to FDR, lets look to anyone in government in the early 1900's where anti-semitism and racism against (Jim Crow!) blacks was off the charts...ets look to the civil rights of the 60's...wallace...

puh-lease...lets operate in reality and stop pretending that racism was not institutional in public and private in the US.

and lets look at the current crop of xtians - Religious right reconstructionists (dominionists) who say that we need to dismantle the civil system and put a biblical one in its place...

that my head-in-the-sand friend doesnt favor America, it is a sneaky means to Damn it!

get thy head out of the GOP racist, anti-democratic sound and image chamber...its ruining your hearing and sight...

everybody knows wrote:

<quoted text>Black minster use extreme rhetoric in their sermons you know else uses extreme rhetoric terrorist.And appearantly Wright and the terrorist share the same view of this country.

yeah we have a govt that cares not one micron for the common people. a govt that sends our boys and girls t o war for nothing but corporate interests and hides in the rhetoric of a war on terrorism.
(a tactic not a group)

yeah goddamn the america that the racists and industrialists and religious right whack-jobs and their puppets in the GOP are helping to create...helping to turn back the tide on a middle class they pretend to support...that had abrief moment in the sun, but are slowly being eradicated (almost 100% complete now) by the GOP

yeah, god damn that america...!(now if there was only a god...)

JRobert wrote:

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The hate mongering sermons of his 20 year pastor don't count because Obama probably slept through them? How ludicrous.
Since you claim he's "not the only one", go ahead and find a President, other than our current President, in the entire history of the country who sat through 20 years of sermons full of open hate like "God damn America!" without objecting.
Obama's racist and anti-American agenda is the one we should worry about. He's the one with the power to make it happen.

What hate-mongering sermons are you talking about??

My understanding is that EVERY one of Wright's sermons was on sale in the church gift shop.

They found exactly TWO snippets from two sermons, taken out of context, and made it a loop of the "scary black preacher" that they played over and over and over again.

If there were more "hateful" sermons than those two, we would most certainly have seen/heard them. Again, all were available for purchase in the church gift shop for months after the story broke.

Regarding those two sermons, Obama was NOT there for either one. This has been corroborated.

So beat this dead horse all you want to.

But ignoring the REAL issue-- that a Preacher prayed for Obama's DEATH-- is a tacit endorsement of it. Especially when you say the "real problem" is Obama.

JRobert wrote:

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The hate mongering sermons of his 20 year pastor don't count because Obama probably slept through them? How ludicrous.
Since you claim he's "not the only one", go ahead and find a President, other than our current President, in the entire history of the country who sat through 20 years of sermons full of open hate like "God damn America!" without objecting.
Obama's racist and anti-American agenda is the one we should worry about. He's the one with the power to make it happen.

sort of stupid request sicne we'd have to shift thru mountains of mostly hand-written sermons for over 200 years. but Im sure we could locate a few racist sermons down south rather quickly that many elected offcials sat thru and embraced...probabaly not have to go past the 50's.

this notion that all our presidents were all moral and upstanding men who held no racist hatred is absurd...in fact its patently false. except if your reading the current crop of conservative historical revisionists who are erasing large tracts of their/others writings that exhibithtier true beliefs...like falwell tried to do...like robertson likes to do in his backpeddaling, and he had a direct phone line to he Oval Office for way too long...

Light Sensitive wrote:

"Many of the party’s early leaders were Christian Reconstructionists, or heavily influenced by Reconstructionism, including party founder and three-time presidential candidate Howard Phillips. Reconstructionism is a theocratic systematic theology whose seminal thinker, the late R.J. Rushdoony, spoke at the Constitution Party’s founding convention and was a longtime advisor to Phillips. Reconstructionism was one of the significant theological catalysts for the modern Religious Right—a movement, like other social and political movements throughout history, that has transcended party identification."
rushdoony wrote the book for the Dominionists movement. The Institutes of Biblical Law (73) he calls for a xtian society, that is unforgiving and violent. very calvin in its roots. xtians are the new chosen peoples - the world is to be subdued and ruled by a xtian US. he dismisses the holocaust as inflated, he believes in the basic premise of eugenics, hates the fed govt, education and social welfare should be handed to the churches (that he accepts a right teachers).
Robertson and his ilk are big fans. and this alleged small group of fringe xtians - are not so small and they are very well funded, politcally connected and organized.
their ideology doesnt have any notion of universal human rights - but rather the protection and promotion of bible believing xtians. they want to remove whole segments of society from the moral landscape...
anyone not with them is against them and is therefore subject to dismissal and death. sounds familiar, huh?

There is a book, titled "THE FAMILY, that speaks about the samething, the new chosen race of god, and they also believe, they are above the law...In fact, those two repiblican congressmen, who recently got caught cheating on their wives, are member of this family of the new chosen...PEACE..

Chicago Guy wrote:

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What hate-mongering sermons are you talking about??
My understanding is that EVERY one of Wright's sermons was on sale in the church gift shop.
They found exactly TWO snippets from two sermons, taken out of context, and made it a loop of the "scary black preacher" that they played over and over and over again.
If there were more "hateful" sermons than those two, we would most certainly have seen/heard them. Again, all were available for purchase in the church gift shop for months after the story broke.
Regarding those two sermons, Obama was NOT there for either one. This has been corroborated.
So beat this dead horse all you want to.
But ignoring the REAL issue-- that a Preacher prayed for Obama's DEATH-- is a tacit endorsement of it. Especially when you say the "real problem" is Obama.

Foxnews the station of misinformation, is the one stirring the racist hate and fears of the past, and Obama is their poster child that FOXNEWS uses to focus their hate on, they get away with hate speech, disguised as news, 24 hours a day..PEACE..

I guess the same way the anti-American freaks of the left use words like democracy and patroitism or support the troops to try to make us believe they are for America!!!HAHAHEHEHELOLOOO

Chicago Guy wrote:

Yikes.
How do these freaks possibly think that they're good Christians/Americans?
Sick.