Plans for Berino meat-processing plant raise concerns

Ahhh, there's nothing quite like a food processing plant that creates a stench making their products, bad enough that people nearby complain about it.

Funny, when I cook food it smells good, not "stenchy". Even raw meat grilling on a barbeque smells good as it cooks - WTF are they making there?

Operating a meat processing plant in a "converted house" (it's a doublewide, right?) without proper sewage disposal? Do they even have running water? And people buy this crap! What a cesspool that whole area is.

The stench of unemployment is horrible. Thank goodness somebody is supplying the state and county with tax revenue and making payroll so people can pay their bills. Maybe some of the laid off chicken plant workers can find work there before they go broke.

Facts Only wrote:

The stench of unemployment is horrible.

So is the stench of human overpopulation. Too many people to fill the need of production in the present economy. Bad now, getting worse.

The Anthony/Berino area probably has a double than average birthrate, but the employment challenges and decrepit living conditions seem to be no deterrent.

Didn't there used to be an ALPO processing plant
there some time ago? What little I know about
rendering and dead animal removal for processing, these animals (cattle, horses, sheep, fowl) came from various feed lots from NATURAL deaths. Coming from the horse farms, dairy cows, chickens, you name it. They became pet food.

Not at all the same as slaughtered animals.
Same end result, but not human food chain products.

As I recall, folks were unhappy when that facility
(ALPO) closed putting workers out of jobs.

This may not be relevant to the location of the
school a quarter mile away, and it may not be even as odoriferous as the red chile/spice processing plant such as the big one on Amador, near Burn Lake.

Very interesting responses to this thread.

Facts Only wrote:

The stench of unemployment is horrible. Thank goodness somebody is supplying the state and county with tax revenue and making payroll so people can pay their bills. Maybe some of the laid off chicken plant workers can find work there before they go broke.

The stench of illegal immigration and wage stagnation due to illegal immigration is also horrible. E-verify EVERYODY all the time.

Hey Anthony how about they move the plant to a county where people want to work and would welcome jobs with benefits.
As for the lady complaining about it's not good for their children. You live in Anthony..not New York City. How is it that children in New York, London and San Francisco can get on a bus and manage but children in this small town are incapable????
And I agree that is one of the areas that has the highest percentage unwed mothers in the country. Maybe they can get a job and get off the states payroll.

Border Native-American wrote:

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The stench of illegal immigration and wage stagnation due to illegal immigration is also horrible. E-verify EVERYODY all the time.

Falling wages in factories such as food processing plants have been caused more by the dismantling of unions and pro capitalist government than the presence of workers who are both undocumented and underpaid.

Also, the pro capilalist government does not enforce labor laws that already exist.

Unskilled labor does not compete with skilled labor. Although China has a large pool of unskilled workers, this does not lower the value of Chinese workers with skills or education.

The way to increase the salary for degreed workers is to decrease the number of workers with degrees. This is what has been done for years in the medical profession, where the number of medical students has been capped.

Large numbers of people going to college means a bachelor's often fetches $20K, a master's $30K and a PhD $45K.

The problem is your government and the capitalist enterprises that it caters to. That and your bigoted ideas.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

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Falling wages in factories such as food processing plants have been caused more by the dismantling of unions and pro capitalist government than the presence of workers who are both undocumented and underpaid.
Also, the pro capilalist government does not enforce labor laws that already exist.
Unskilled labor does not compete with skilled labor. Although China has a large pool of unskilled workers, this does not lower the value of Chinese workers with skills or education.
The way to increase the salary for degreed workers is to decrease the number of workers with degrees. This is what has been done for years in the medical profession, where the number of medical students has been capped.
Large numbers of people going to college means a bachelor's often fetches $20K, a master's $30K and a PhD $45K.
The problem is your government and the capitalist enterprises that it caters to. That and your bigoted ideas.

In correct. Wages have stagnated because of illegal immigration. Construction, service jobs,landscaping. Example. In Greeley Colorado they have a Monforts, a packing plant. American workers used to make $18.00 an hour in the late 80's. Now a quarter of a century later, the rate is half that. Why? Monfort's made an organized attempt to displace American workers with illegal aliens.

Must be nice to act self rightegous from Santa Fe with out actually dealing with reality.

Border Native-American wrote:

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Must be nice to act self rightegous from Santa Fe with out actually dealing with reality.

Yeah, I'm just living here on a trust fund doing whatever I feel like :-)

Chicago used to have a large meat packing industry on the south side that employed a large number of African Americans. Those were union jobs.

Colorado is a "right to work state" as are many states in the South where jobs have recently moved ot.

Like I said, wages for unskilled workers have fallen because those jobs have been transferred to non-union facilities. That there are people from Mexico working there is really an independent event.

yeah and I bet your parents made that trust fund,legally, or better yet morally. I'm sure greedy capitalism had nothing to do with it. It reeks of hypocrisy when a rich liberal scolds us about the greed of capitalism. Micheal Moore comes to mind. I'm sure his mutual funds and portfolio are absent of all the "greedy capitalistic companies". Santa fe guy just go away.
Having said that while I agree this processing plant will bring in jobs, why not re locate to an area like the Santa Teresa Industrial Complex? Or an area more open. I'm sure the County would be happy to help the recruitment of a new tax paying business. Or maybe the owners could ask MVEDA to help, that is if they can get their drunk president to respond. Answering or meeting with you is difficult when you can't drive for a year.

Everybody wants something better for jobs and the economy. But when it happens to be in their own backyards, they have a fit. Get over it. Either allow something for the betterment of the community or just dwell in the spot your at with no room for improvement. As for the kids, they'll survive. Just take a look at the over population as it is.

Whoa boy...wouldn't it be terrible for the neighborhood and the kids to have a new business come in, hiring local people and paying taxes.
Nobody in the article can actually come up with a reason for NOT locating the plant there, except the Einstein who is worried about a Semi and a kid running into the street. A mom driven mini-van can run over and kill a kid just as dead as a semi, but that apparently doesn't worry Brainiac.
I'm worried about a meteor or a comet crashing into the school and killing all those cute kids...there is real reason for "concern", isn't there? I mean...comets have hit the earth before..so we KNOW it could happen! LOL

stopTAGGING ourWALLS wrote:

Didn't there used to be an ALPO processing plant
there some time ago? What little I know about
rendering and dead animal removal for processing, these animals (cattle, horses, sheep, fowl) came from various feed lots from NATURAL deaths. Coming from the horse farms, dairy cows, chickens, you name it. They became pet food.
Not at all the same as slaughtered animals.
Same end result, but not human food chain products.
As I recall, folks were unhappy when that facility
(ALPO) closed putting workers out of jobs.
This may not be relevant to the location of the
school a quarter mile away, and it may not be even as odoriferous as the red chile/spice processing plant such as the big one on Amador, near Burn Lake.
Very interesting responses to this thread.

ALPO was in CHAMberino. Totally different area.

Don't take the bait "jobs" you will wind up with no jobs and a stench that will reach Las Cruces. If Ms. Dominguez has to justify her business then there is something wrong with her business. Call the people up in Vinton and get the 411 on these folks.

desertdawg wrote:

Nobody in the article can actually come up with a reason for NOT locating the plant there, except the Einstein who is worried about a Semi and a kid running into the street. A mom driven mini-van can run over and kill a kid just as dead as a semi, but that apparently doesn't worry Brainiac.
I'm worried about a meteor or a comet crashing into the school and killing all those cute kids...there is real reason for "concern", isn't there? I mean...comets have hit the earth before..so we KNOW it could happen! LOL

Yeah, I picked up on that, too. The sheer stupidity wasn't worth commenting on, but thanks for bringing it up. You know the Sun News has to throw the sentimental human-element into the story so its target readership can identify with the issue.

Dear Santa Fe hippie, here are some facts for you to toss around in that smokey little head of yours while you are enjoying whatever government service I am paying for...read on.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

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Falling wages in factories such as food processing plants have been caused more by the dismantling of unions and pro capitalist government than the presence of workers who are both undocumented and underpaid.

A. Unions are plenty powerful and there is no current focus on dismantling them. this is a left wing lie. Furthermore, lets assume they WERE being dismantled, the absence of unions would allow for a return of the real wage rate to a market clearing rate. Labor costs would return to equilibrium levels and the overall benefit to society would be greater. Why do you favor unions? So you can pay 40 bucks an hour to one assembly worker that performs one perfunctory task that a machine can often do-day in and day out? Please explain why unions are so valuable economically.

B. Falling real wage rate? The artificial price of labor is propped up by a higher price floor-your minimum wage. It is not falling at all, but increasing. This is basic economics.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

<quoted text>Also, the pro capilalist government does not enforce labor laws that already exist.

A. Um, you mean capitalist and yes they do. You cannot go get that great job at McDonalds when you are 12.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

<quoted text>Unskilled labor does not compete with skilled labor

A. The point you are trying to make assumes that a person would disappear into thin air after their work day is done only to materialize magically the next day. This logic does not account for the bleed on services such as medical, public housing etc. Unless you have found a way to put a worker into suspended animation after their shift, they are human and require food, shelter, medical etc. They are not the same as other capital resources. If the worker cannot pay for this, the taxpayer will end up doing so. You should read the communist manifesto by your friend Marx, your claims and ideology are based in his very flawed labor theories but you clearly haven't even read what your dear leader has to say about this.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

<quoted text>Large numbers of people going to college means a bachelor's often fetches $20K, a master's $30K and a PhD $45K.

A. Where in the WORLD are you getting your numbers? The SantaFe Communist party? Go to BLS.GOV (the Bureau of Labor Statistics (byoorow of laybor stuhtistiks) where you can easily obtain stats on actual salaries. Someone with a BA in Psychology could easily have both salary and employability issues but someone with a BS in Engineering will EASILY see 50+K a year right out of the gates. Broad statements like these are simply lies. The data is available, see for yourself.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

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The problem is your government and the capitalist enterprises that it caters to. That and your bigoted ideas.

Bigoted? Capitalism provides ALL of the services and freedoms you currently enjoy. You don't like it because it is a system that favors people who are not scared to work. The problem really is that we are much to tolerant of ingrates. I encourage you to try out the Ukraine. Farming is actually quite profitable over there right now..but oh wait, that would mean work.

some guy Santa Fe wrote:

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Like I said, wages for unskilled workers have fallen because those jobs have been transferred to non-union facilities. That there are people from Mexico working there is really an independent event.

that is not why at all...oh I get it, you're a chicago transplant that lost his job putting a knob on a car as it passed by so now youre mad.

Wages for unskilled workers will decrease over the long term because of something called technology (tek-nawl-uh-gee)technological progress influences the real wage as well and the real rental price of capital in most economic models.

please stop with your unfounded comments or provide some economic basis.

Chance wrote:

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ALPO was in CHAMberino. Totally different area.

There you go!
I knew it was down in that area.
Berino kinda scatters itself around.
It seems to cover a wide area.

thanks for correcting me.

The plant in Vinton was got throwing its unprocess water directly to the ground. Nieghbors around the plant say the tanks with grease are leaking and goats roam the facility. Plus the owner is not bringing any jobs into the area, they are bringing 30 workers already working in the Vinton Plant. With that lets put this same plant a quarter mile near a school in Las Cruces? Why not then near the golf coarse at Sonoma Ranch? Hell lets put it at Picacho Hills or next to your convention center. All you Las Crucens would sing another song then I bet.

meat plant in Las Cruces wrote:

The plant in Vinton was got throwing its unprocess water directly to the ground. Nieghbors around the plant say the tanks with grease are leaking and goats roam the facility. Plus the owner is not bringing any jobs into the area, they are bringing 30 workers already working in the Vinton Plant. With that lets put this same plant a quarter mile near a school in Las Cruces? Why not then near the golf coarse at Sonoma Ranch? Hell lets put it at Picacho Hills or next to your convention center. All you Las Crucens would sing another song then I bet.

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