Abortion foes take battle beyond Roe

Faithful wrote:

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Ah, well the bell curve was in reference to socio-economic status, as the poster had written about wealthy women flying to Europe while the poor resort to coat hangers.
I still don't see the issue of "multiple subject matter" or how that leads to, "shows clearly the adverse effects of control and manipulation."
I draw in whatever resources I can, but quite frankly, I also tend to wander a bit. If it's any consolation, I try to always use a spell-checker!

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Mike wrote:

Let's be clear, this issue is not about protecting life, that is just good propaganda and advertising. For conservative xtians it is about control, controlling women and removing their equal rights under law. Every xtian group against abortion is also lobbying hard against ALL birth control. They want women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. If they cared about "life" they would be pro free health care and anti war, they are not.
For the wealthy corporate elite this is a convenient wedge issue. It keeps the working masses divided and distracted as they wage economic class warfare against them. So your wages and standard of living continue to decline but you are to busy worrying about this non issue to notice and grab a gun and start killing ceo's like you should be.

Feminist wrote:

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Don't worry I won't be surpised! I also will not be surpised if someone turns a pumpkin into a coach and some mice into horses and a coachman!

Faithful wrote:

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I wanted to answer this more clearly; here is some of what the Bible says about that. You will find nothing to support your assertion that the ability to think and to reason is what defines mankind. It is the likeness and relationship to God that defines mankind.
One could argue by extension that in being separated from God (by a state of sin), a man or woman loses a significant part of their identity, and becomes closer to the beasts.
26 Then God said,“Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[a] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
(Genesis 1:26-27, NKJV)
4 What is man that You are mindful of him,
And the son of man that You visit him?
5 For You have made him a little lower than the angels,
And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
6 You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things under his feet,
7 All sheep and oxen—
Even the beasts of the field,
8 The birds of the air,
And the fish of the sea
That pass through the paths of the seas.
(Psalm 8:4-8, NKJV)

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Mike wrote:

Let's be clear, this issue is not about protecting life, that is just good propaganda and advertising. For conservative xtians it is about control, controlling women and removing their equal rights under law. Every xtian group against abortion is also lobbying hard against ALL birth control. They want women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. If they cared about "life" they would be pro free health care and anti war, they are not.
For the wealthy corporate elite this is a convenient wedge issue. It keeps the working masses divided and distracted as they wage economic class warfare against them. So your wages and standard of living continue to decline but you are to busy worrying about this non issue to notice and grab a gun and start killing ceo's like you should be.

David LeRoy wrote:

Talk, theory, and suppositions are one thing. Clumps of cells,am embryo, "just" a fetus, or a human being in its first stages of development - these are varied perspectives of the very same issue. The debate is about whether or not it is morally acceptable to cause the life process to suddenly cease. To take the discussion beyond the realm of words and opinions, let's go one step further and take a hard look at what we are really talking about.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/DEabortiongr...
http://www.silentscream.org/video1.htm
Take a hard look and tell me again it is all about a woman's rights and control of HER body. Life is life, a human being is a human being, and taking the life of a helpless, dependent human being is a despicable act of brutality which results in death.