tea parties

TLL116 wrote:

Has anyone organized a tea party in this area? I would love to participate. Is anyone else sick and tired of extreme taxation without representation,and of course the massive spending thats going on in Washington right now????Let's organize who's in?

Question Everyone wrote:

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"extreme taxation", are you really that ignorant? In Obama's plan, the highest tax bracket's total Federal responsibility is over 8% LESS than it was under the anti-christ's... er... George W.'s structure during his first term.
Not in any way saying that I agree with everything Obama wants or stands for, but for god's sake, educate yourself before opening your mouth.
EXTREME taxation occurred on the top 5% of earners in the decade following the Great Depression where the effective tax rate reached 96%. THAT'S the kind of taxation we need now to get us out of the last administration's mess. They were given a license to steal from mid and lower classes - it's time to give it back.
***, if we could just get the top 10% earners to actually pay what they owe and close the tax loopholes, we'd be in fine shape.
I will stop just short of guaranteeing that your personal tax burden is the same or less under Obama's tax plan than it was under the Bush Plan. I'll never get you to admit how much you actually and honestly earn annually to prove my point though, now will I?
If you actually are one of the top 1% earners and therefore do earn enough to see the paltry 3% MAXIMUM increase over the previous administration's plan, then I don't feel sorry for you as I have to go fight to keep my job and hope I can refill my 401K before I retire.
Stop the polarizing hate-mongering. Stop listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Riley, Beck, and the like and be a productive member of society.

Common Sense wrote:

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You say you don't agree with all of Obama's politics and you're obviously very passionate about money. How do you feel about the billions of dollars that was spent on stimulus packages and them discussing another? How do you feel about the defeceit reaching an all time high under Obama's clock, not Bush's? Do you personally believe that to avoid bankruptcy you have to spend your way out of a hole?

Common Sense wrote:

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You say you don't agree with all of Obama's politics and you're obviously very passionate about money. How do you feel about the billions of dollars that was spent on stimulus packages and them discussing another? How do you feel about the defeceit reaching an all time high under Obama's clock, not Bush's? Do you personally believe that to avoid bankruptcy you have to spend your way out of a hole?

Question Everyone wrote:

WOO HOO - I found it!
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First, I do disagree with the manner in which stimulus was doled out - Both Bush's and Obama's plans. Had they divvied up that money to the tax-paying citizens to pay off their debts, it would have given the banks the solvency and liquidity they claimed they needed by paying off/down the bad loans THEY made in addition to helping the citizens get their heads back above water. Those without debt would have had the opportunity to invest, save, or spend at their discretion. everyone wins. Problem is that he who controls the debt, controls the world. With the financial sector's tentacles so deeply intertwined in our government, there's no way they'll allow the government to do anything to actually help alleviate societies debt burden as that would represent a significant loss of their control.
We are seeing the same thing with health care reform. The insurance industry has the clout and they don't want to give it up. They have their tentacles in the pockets of both sides of the isle and this is why we never see any actual beneficial changes go for the citizens.
As far as deficit spending goes - it's a necessary evil. Taxes are a necessary evil. Remember the Clinton administration gave us 2 years of Budget surplus and handed it over to the Bush Tyranny Administration. That surplus, coupled with the tax rates and program cuts were SUPPOSED to have completely paid off the national debt by 2010. Do you remember? Then what happened. Bush decided that he wanted a war under his belt as a legacy. Don't believe me? Just search for the interview he gave the Houston Star back in 1999 - the one where he says that he believes a presidency is unsuccessful without a military victory. Next thing we know, we are invading sovereign nations trying to convert them. 9/11 was a terrible atrocity, but it was also allowed to happen knowing full well that the outrage would allow the Bush Administration to push their agenda forward smoothly and with minimal questioning. Couple that with the rich folks needing to pay less in taxes, and all the sudden we help sink the world economy.
Remember, the deficit reached "all time highs" SEVEN CONSECUTIVE YEARS on Bush's clock - don't EVER forget that.
^^^Do you personally believe that to avoid bankruptcy you have to spend your way out of a hole?^^^
Where was this line of thinking when Bush took us down that Bankruptcy Road? Now we are stuck trying to clean up his mess. I wish the Obama administration would grow the balls to tax the very rich appropriately - a 3% effective increase isn't going to cut it. Those very rich were given a license to steal from the bottom 95% through deregulation stemming from the Regan Administration - That money needs to be put back in place.