Did you vote today?

BARNEYII wrote:

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Till they come out of committee you will not find a vote, if then, if either party chooses to block the vote( as in the example above with McConnell, or to filibuster a debate, or just move to end debate.
You show me where Reed has tabled any of those bills. When it says, the Senate has taken no action on this bill, that means what it says. It does not say, Harry Reid has not taken any action.
Do you really think Mc Connell would not be on TV screaming every day if REED was to hold up a bill he truly wanted a vote on?

What do you think the phrase "senate has taken no action to date" means? If you will look into the bills that have passed you should notice that some were introduced in the house this year and rushed right through within a month or two. Yet some of these bills were introduced early in 2011 such as the The America Invents Act HR 1249 yet they sit with no action. Hmmm, how could that happen? Shouldn't the Senate deal with the bills as they get them? I'm sure there is some perfectly rational reason, I just can't think of it. Would you help me?

quest wrote:

The Journal’s “Is Chevy’s Cruze Dulling the Spark of its Volt?” runs the numbers on the Volt and the similarly sized Chevy Cruze. 
The Volts sells for some $20,000 more than the Cruze. According to EPA estimates (which has the Volt running on gas for part of its usage), the Volt consumes $1,508 gallons per year, while the Cruze burns $1.779. If the Volt is used only for short distance travel, its electricity costs $648 per year.
Thus a typical driver who mixes long distance and city driving would need more than sixty years to earn back the fuel saving. A Volt owner who drives only short distances in the city would require twenty years.
Even if our gas prices rose to European levels, it still would not make economic sense to buy the Volt.
And does anyone wonder why GM sold only 603 Volts in January? Another loss for Obama’s industrial policy.
http://paulgregorysblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/...

The Chevrolet Volt and its kissing cousin, the Opel Ampera, are Europe’s “Car of the Year,” beating compacts from Volkswagen and Ford to add another award to the car’s trophy shelf.

The award, announced today ahead of the Geneva auto show.

Reality Check wrote:

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What do you think the phrase "senate has taken no action to date" means? If you will look into the bills that have passed you should notice that some were introduced in the house this year and rushed right through within a month or two. Yet some of these bills were introduced early in 2011 such as the The America Invents Act HR 1249 yet they sit with no action. Hmmm, how could that happen? Shouldn't the Senate deal with the bills as they get them? I'm sure there is some perfectly rational reason, I just can't think of it. Would you help me?

As a non biased observer, I think he will think of a reason, maybe several and he might even throw in an excuse or two.

You know it doesn't make any cents(pardon the pun) to pay 40,000.00 to buy a car, that won't save you anything at all on money. When we have to pay an electriction to put in a special plug in your house. When our president's plan to force all our coal companys out of business and your electric bill quaduples. You will find that the gas in the long run is cheaper. Those electric cars are about as dumb as burning corn(our food supply)for fuel and using extra gas to make ethonial. The President just doesn't get it if we can't hardly afford gas how in the world are we suppose to buy a 40,000.00 car we can't afford. Some of us just can't pull it out of our butts. After all i will say again he come up with some stupid ideas. Maybe he can get one of barney light bulb and have a major light bulb moment.

BARNEYII wrote:

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The Chevrolet Volt and its kissing cousin, the Opel Ampera, are Europe’s “Car of the Year,” beating compacts from Volkswagen and Ford to add another award to the car’s trophy shelf.
The award, announced today ahead of the Geneva auto show.

And you have shown through your posts that you would fit in very well with the French and Greeks, you seem to admire their ways much more than the traditional American values. I have been to both countries and would be glad to write you a letter of recommendation if you were to choose to change nationalities.

BARNEYII wrote:

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"BTW, the twist bulbs actually are more dangerous because they have a high level of mercury" post #13542
"I happen to agree that the mercury levels in twist bulbs isn't enough to make even the slightest difference"
Do you really know what you think?

Twist bulbs are more dangerous than incandescent bulbs yet the mercury they contain still isn't enough to amount to a hill of beans. What is so hard to understand about that? It was a nice try at diversion though. Keep trying and maybe you will accomplish whatever it is you are supposed to accomplish by using that tactic.

Reality Check wrote:

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What do you think the phrase "senate has taken no action to date" means? If you will look into the bills that have passed you should notice that some were introduced in the house this year and rushed right through within a month or two. Yet some of these bills were introduced early in 2011 such as the The America Invents Act HR 1249 yet they sit with no action. Hmmm, how could that happen? Shouldn't the Senate deal with the bills as they get them? I'm sure there is some perfectly rational reason, I just can't think of it. Would you help me?

Sure, here is your answer;

The majority leader has also come to speak for the Senate as an institution. Working with the committee chairs and ranking members, the majority leader schedules business on the floor by calling bills from the calendar and keeps members of his party advised about the daily legislative program. In consultation with the minority leader, the majority leader fashions unanimous consent agreements by which the Senate limits the amount of time for debate and divides that time between the parties

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/c...

The Senate's Legislative Calendar is updated each day the Senate is in session. The calendar, composed of several sections, identifies bills and resolutions awaiting Senate floor actions. Most measures are placed on the calendar under the heading "General Orders" in the sequence in which they were added to the calendar. Other sections are provided to address special situations in which floor actions have been deferred and to show the status of bills in conference and of appropriations bills.

The sections of the calendar described below can be viewed individually from the GPO website.

Cover and Special Orders

•Date on which each session of the current Congress convened and adjourned sine die.
•Provides the number of days the Senate has met during each session.
•Displays time and date the Senate is next scheduled to convene.
•Lists any unfinished or pending business
•Lists any unanimous consent agreements that continue to apply to legislative business the Senate is considering.

Senate Membership

A list of senators and the year in which their term expires.

Committee Assignments

Other, Select and Special Committees

Joint Committees of Congress

Cross Index

Index of General Orders measures with corresponding order numbers.

This section provides all Senate and House measures placed on the Senate's Legislative Calendar under "General Orders" along with a cross index to the order number under which it is listed.

General Orders

This is a list of all Senate and House measures placed on the Senate's Legislative Calendar, pursuant to Senate Rule VIII, under "General Orders", sequenced by order number and eligible for Senate floor consideration. Most measures are placed under this heading.

Notice of Intent to Object

When following the objection to an unanimous consent to proceeding to, and, or passage of, a measure or matter on their behalf, a Senator has notified the appropriate leader, or their designee, in writing and submits such objection for inclusion in the Congressional Record and the Senate Calendar of Business, it shall be placed in the section of the Calendar entitled "Notice of Intent to Object to Proceeding".(Sec. 512, P.L. 110-81)

Subjects on the Table, Motions for Reconsideration

The section, subjects on the table, lists all "subjects on the table" that are still eligible for consideration. Motions for reconsideration lists all motions that senators have entered for later Senate consideration.

Bills in Conference

This document at GPO identifies and describes the current status of all bills and resolutions for which a joint House/Senate conference has been requested and conferees appointed.

For additional information about this topic, read the CRS report The Senate's Calendar of Business.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/...

he Senate’s Calendar of Business lists bills, resolutions, and other items of legislative
business that are eligible for floor consideration. When a Senate committee reports a bill, it
is said to be placed “on the calendar.” It is not in order for the majority leader or any other
Senator to move that the Senate proceed to the consideration of a measure that is not on the
calendar, though the majority leader could ask unanimous consent to do so. A Senate measure that
is not on the calendar either has been referred to a committee and is awaiting committee action, or
it is being “held at the desk” by unanimous consent. Being held at the desk means it is awaiting a
decision to refer it to committee, to place it on the calendar, or to bring it directly to the floor for
consideration by unanimous consent.
The Senate’s other calendar, the Executive Calendar, lists treaties and nominations—which
constitute the Senate’s executive business—that are available for floor action. Both of these
documents are published each day the Senate is in session and distributed to Senators’ personal
offices and to all committee and subcommittee offices. There are no cumulative issues of the
Calendar of Business; each issue documents the status of the Senate’s legislative business as of its
publication. The Calendar of Business is available on the Legislative Information System website
at http://www.congress.gov/schedules/slegis.html .
The following is a summary of the contents of the Calendar of Business.
General Orders
When Senators speak of the calendar, they usually are referring to a list printed in the Calendar of
Business called “General Orders, under Rule VIII.” This is a list made up of all measures that
committees have reported to the Senate and any bills and joint resolutions that, under the
provisions of Rule XIV, Senators have had placed directly on the calendar without having been
referred to committee. Each measure on this list is given an “order number” that reflects the
chronological order in which it was placed on the calendar during the two-year Congress.
Following the order number are columns displaying: the number of the measure (e.g., S. 1 or H.R.
2); its sponsor, if it is a Senate measure; its title; and the date and manner in which it was placed
on the calendar. This last column provides details on how the measure was placed on the calendar.
It shows whether the measure was placed directly on the calendar without being referred to
committee, whether the measure is an original bill drafted in committee, or whether the measure
was reported from committee with or without amendment. The column also shows whether the
measure is accompanied by a written committee report and whether that report contains
additional or minority views.
Other Contents
The front cover of the Calendar of Business gives the dates on which each session of the current
Congress convened and adjourned sine die and the number of days the Senate actually has met
during each session. It also shows the date and time at which the Senate is next scheduled to
convene. Also, the calendar lists any unfinished business or business that is pending before the
Senate and any unanimous consent agreements that continue to apply to legislative business that
the Senate is considering.

http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish....

Reality Check wrote:

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What do you think the phrase "senate has taken no action to date" means? If you will look into the bills that have passed you should notice that some were introduced in the house this year and rushed right through within a month or two. Yet some of these bills were introduced early in 2011 such as the The America Invents Act HR 1249 yet they sit with no action. Hmmm, how could that happen? Shouldn't the Senate deal with the bills as they get them? I'm sure there is some perfectly rational reason, I just can't think of it. Would you help me?

In brief:

A Senate measure that
is not on the calendar either has been referred to a committee and is awaiting committee action, or
it is being “held at the desk” by unanimous consent. Being held at the desk means it is awaiting a
decision to refer it to committee, to place it on the calendar, or to bring it directly to the floor for
consideration by unanimous consent.

Reality Check wrote:

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Twist bulbs are more dangerous than incandescent bulbs yet the mercury they contain still isn't enough to amount to a hill of beans. What is so hard to understand about that? It was a nice try at diversion though. Keep trying and maybe you will accomplish whatever it is you are supposed to accomplish by using that tactic.

Nothing, if you say it like this,

The twist bulbs actually are more dangerous because they have a LOW level of mercury.

LOW---HIGH Get it?

Reality Check wrote:

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What do you think the phrase "senate has taken no action to date" means? If you will look into the bills that have passed you should notice that some were introduced in the house this year and rushed right through within a month or two. Yet some of these bills were introduced early in 2011 such as the The America Invents Act HR 1249 yet they sit with no action. Hmmm, how could that happen? Shouldn't the Senate deal with the bills as they get them? I'm sure there is some perfectly rational reason, I just can't think of it. Would you help me?

That "The America Invents Act HR 1249" what the hell did they do with that, I know its around here some where, OH HELL, I forgot, that has been sent to the president,


America Invents Act of 2011
Background on H.R. 1249, the America Invents Act: On September 16, President Obama signed into law the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act (H.R. 1249), a bipartisan, bicameral bill that updates our patent system to encourage innovation, job creation and economic growth. Both Houses of Congress overwhelmingly supported the proposal, which was sponsored by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas). The House of Representatives passed H.R. 1249 by a vote of 304-117 earlier this year. The Senate passed the bill by a vote of 89-9. Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) partnered with Chairman Smith on the legislation. Congressman Smith led the House efforts on patent reform for more than six years.

http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/issues_pate...


You need to be more careful, people will start to think you are my Straw Man.

BARNEYII wrote:

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That "The America Invents Act HR 1249" what the hell did they do with that, I know its around here some where, OH HELL, I forgot, that has been sent to the president,
America Invents Act of 2011
Background on H.R. 1249, the America Invents Act: On September 16, President Obama signed into law the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act (H.R. 1249), a bipartisan, bicameral bill that updates our patent system to encourage innovation, job creation and economic growth. Both Houses of Congress overwhelmingly supported the proposal, which was sponsored by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas). The House of Representatives passed H.R. 1249 by a vote of 304-117 earlier this year. The Senate passed the bill by a vote of 89-9. Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) partnered with Chairman Smith on the legislation. Congressman Smith led the House efforts on patent reform for more than six years.
http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/issues_pate...
You need to be more careful, people will start to think you are my Straw Man.

No, we have respect for Reality Check, when he errs, it's honest. Now if the Democrats would allow more good legislation through, maybe Obama would sign it also.

quest wrote:

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No, we have respect for Reality Check, when he errs, it's honest. Now if the Democrats would allow more good legislation through, maybe Obama would sign it also.

He is the most "honest" person on Topix.

BARNEYII wrote:

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He is the most "honest" person on Topix.

He has been known to show both sides of an issue and generally avoids cut and paste, I would give him a 9.5

guest wrote:

You know it doesn't make any cents(pardon the pun) to pay 40,000.00 to buy a car, that won't save you anything at all on money. When we have to pay an electriction to put in a special plug in your house. When our president's plan to force all our coal companys out of business and your electric bill quaduples. You will find that the gas in the long run is cheaper. Those electric cars are about as dumb as burning corn(our food supply)for fuel and using extra gas to make ethonial. The President just doesn't get it if we can't hardly afford gas how in the world are we suppose to buy a 40,000.00 car we can't afford. Some of us just can't pull it out of our butts. After all i will say again he come up with some stupid ideas. Maybe he can get one of barney light bulb and have a major light bulb moment.

No body mandates that you buy a car, its just an option. Not a good option, cause at 40,000$ I start looking at BMW's not chevys. Another reason I cant consider a plugin car, which the Volt isnt just plug in, its an option. No one could quote me the expected electrical consumption, the dealer said my electrical bill might double. Thats about $435 per month. So I agree if you dont save money and its not the coolest car in the $40000 price range it doesnt make sense. But I am pretty Obama didnt built it. It was an automotive God named Rick waggoner, Mr Horsepower, the same guy who brought us 403HP Escalades 500HP cameros and 600HP Vettes. Not really sure you'd call the man an environmentalist. But he made American muscle stomp the sh!t out of the the fastest fourteen Cars. What Obama did to him is wrong.

SAC Warrior wrote:

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No body mandates that you buy a car, its just an option. Not a good option, cause at 40,000$ I start looking at BMW's not chevys. Another reason I cant consider a plugin car, which the Volt isnt just plug in, its an option. No one could quote me the expected electrical consumption, the dealer said my electrical bill might double. Thats about $435 per month. So I agree if you dont save money and its not the coolest car in the $40000 price range it doesnt make sense. But I am pretty Obama didnt built it. It was an automotive God named Rick waggoner, Mr Horsepower, the same guy who brought us 403HP Escalades 500HP cameros and 600HP Vettes. Not really sure you'd call the man an environmentalist. But he made American muscle stomp the sh!t out of the the fastest fourteen Cars. What Obama did to him is wrong.

In a way, Obama has made us all Rick Waggoner, he done us wrong.

quest wrote:

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In a way, Obama has made us all Rick Waggoner, he done us wrong.

The market valuation of GM went down by more than 90% and the company lost more than $82 billion under Waggoner.

Is there any wonder he was ask to resign, and he was named one of the worst CEOs of 2008.

BARNEYII wrote:

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The market valuation of GM went down by more than 90% and the company lost more than $82 billion under Waggoner.
Is there any wonder he was ask to resign, and he was named one of the worst CEOs of 2008.

You are so right, it is such a money maker now. If I was you I would buy as much of it as I could, no that would make you a capitalist.

BARNEYII wrote:

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In brief:
A Senate measure that
is not on the calendar either has been referred to a committee and is awaiting committee action, or
it is being “held at the desk” by unanimous consent. Being held at the desk means it is awaiting a
decision to refer it to committee, to place it on the calendar, or to bring it directly to the floor for
consideration by unanimous consent.

Wow, that was an unbelievably long post of hot air!
In brief:
Harry Reid is doing the same thing to the 32 bills sitting on his desk as he is doing with his chance to bring forth a budget..........NOTHING!!! His intentional inaction made all of that copy and paste you just did completely irrelevent and a waste of time.