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Aug 13, 2010
 
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#245
Aug 13, 2010
 
!! what kind of poeple are you to cin and talk bad about the skiba family and friends of there family... its a big big family, just because one of the hundreds that there is lost his mind at a point in his life, why would you hate on his family who had nothing to do with it or knew ne of it was going to happen. they did all the church and funeral because they tried making a tragic situatuation into a better one and tryed making it better for his family ... hateing on the family memebers because of his actions... is like hating on an african american just becuase there skin is black!! you gotta think about what his kids are going threw and his family...and you poeple are trying to talk about cinning!!.. you dont think hateing and disrespecting innicent family memebers for his doings is holy? i think not! very much a cin in catholic religon..com on poeple this isnt a private chat log!! his kids and family can read this too what some pieces of shit people some of you are... everyone can read what you low life scum bucket people, that have nothing better to do then write bad things about someone who is deceased on a computer and hate on innocent family memebers..its scientifically proven that the people who talk bad about one another, one of the reasons they do it is cuz there not happy with themselves! its not like this guy was a homeless bumb or had no family or nothing to live for.. i do kno the guy well enough that he woulda never sat on a computer and talked crap about someone who did a murder suicide like some of the people that hav on here!! this isnt the first murder suicide and more then likely wont be the last..the smartest and loyalist person in the world could loose there mind and do the same thing he did!! it happens !!! humans can loose there mind at some points in there life...just because of the ending of one anothers life ended up being like how this couples did doesnt mean they werent a good person at all in there life...remorce is the "holy" way to deal with things and hate/disrespect is the not the right way...
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#246
Aug 13, 2010
 
I do not feel all Skiba's should be lumped into the big pool of sinners. Every family has some sort of skeleton in their closet (you just may not know its there yet) and what Kelby did was of Kelby's choice and it left a great multitude of people realing from its after shock! Unfortunatel the people who are blaming the lot of Skibas are in total denial. They are above reproach and feel that a member of their family could never do something wrong. We are in control of our own moral compass, No one else's. Why are we slaughtering the chicken because it laid one bad egg? This is a horrific act and we will NEVER KNOW WHAT SNAPPED in Kelby's mind, but it was KELBY'S MIND that snapped not the Skibas.
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#247
Aug 13, 2010
 
hmmm wrote:
I do not feel all Skiba's should be lumped into the big pool of sinners. Every family has some sort of skeleton in their closet (you just may not know its there yet) and what Kelby did was of Kelby's choice and it left a great multitude of people realing from its after shock! Unfortunatel the people who are blaming the lot of Skibas are in total denial. They are above reproach and feel that a member of their family could never do something wrong. We are in control of our own moral compass, No one else's. Why are we slaughtering the chicken because it laid one bad egg? This is a horrific act and we will NEVER KNOW WHAT SNAPPED in Kelby's mind, but it was KELBY'S MIND that snapped not the Skibas.
Well said hmmm. There are MANY Skiba's that are successful business people. Many have college degrees and go to work everyday, unlike the low life people that have nothing else to do but bash other people. You people thrive on gossip and hearsay. There are a few of you that seem to have alot of information and have all the answers. Maybe some day, you too, will experience what all involved are going through.
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#248
Aug 13, 2010
 
My heart does go out to both families. For the record, someone else recently (the past couple days) has been posting more negative comments using the "Just a thought"screen name. That is not me! I have true compasion for both families.
Peace, and God speed
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#249
Aug 13, 2010
 
You people are so stupid.

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I didn't even want to weigh in on this whole thing, but...

I myself come from one of those big families, simialr to the one everyone is chastizing here and It would be a 2 full time jobs if I were to have to try to keep tabs on all my aunts and uncles,1st cousins, all 50+ of them,their spouses, children and 2nd, 3rd cousins etc. which proably is many hundred who all share the same last name or lineage as me. God forbid any of them or their kids do anything this horrible, or It looks like I'm going to get turned on for not stopping it.

I want to ask you this..You know that sibling,aunt, uncle or cousin etc. That is an alcoholic or drug addict?-YES you ALL have one. When they kill someone driving under the influence, then maybe you will see the horror that this family is going through. So if you are sitting her admonishing these people, please ride your high horses all over town smashing your uncles whisky bottles and dragging people in to rehab, because with the logic I'm reading here you and your extended family are going to have your livelyhood's threatened, and anyone who happens to work for you is just collateral damage.

And look, it's ok to not be a patron of someone's business or services because you don't like their family, because you feel they have done something wrong. It's the way Alpena has been for as long as their has been an Alpena. I even know some people who were Anti-Skiba long before this, just as there are some who wouldn't do business with my clan, or yours. Again, it's the Alpena way. But please don't demonize this whole family's name for the horrific actions of this killer. Because that is not right, there is a far better way to advocate for the memory and justice for Kecia Gauthier and other victims of horrible crimes than a witchunt on a 500+ polaks with the same name.
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YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN KELBIE "YOUGOGIRL" IDIOT!!!
I think Wake Up woke up in Kelby land and thats all she can think about. So rather than be constuctive and grieve her Idol she attacks someone who didn't think he was just the cat's meow.
Too bad Wake Up didn't have a chance to hook-up with Kelby (maybe he rejected her?) Too bad, they probably would have made a great pair. Then maybe Kecia could still be with us.
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Please stop all the ranting... everyone bears their own cross. If you all think for one second anyone knew what kelby was going to do then you are fooling yourselves. Stalking and murder are two very differnt things. He "stole" the gun no one handed it to him. And how do you know people didn't try to help this lost soul? You can lead a horse to water but cannot make them drink. So please stop with all the hurtful things both families are suffering enough. And be kinder than necessary everyone you meet is fighting some sort of battle in this world.
I agree everyone IS fighting their own battle in this world. And some have harder, more painfull battles than others. But the really important point is HOW they deal with the battle. The ppl that victimize other people (rape, murder, child abuse) because they are depressed or because they are mad at somebody are the lowest of lows. I wish God would stop them DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS RATHER THAN ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THEIR FREE WILL..only to take away the Free Will of someone else (their victim)!!!!!
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#253
Aug 13, 2010
 
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it's a way for people to express how they are feeling in a way that is not destructive. If you weren't internet trolling you wouldn't have found it in the 1st place. people loved kecia and are upset by what happened and need to vent. oh you who are so wise and forgiving yet are so quick to judge ppl who need to express feelings.
well than you should exspress your feelings. I feel so sad for both familiys, i couldnt even imagine how bad i would feel if it were my daughter or my son I exspress my feelings for both familys, how can you tell when someone is going to snap on such a manner to do such a terrible thing? do you realy think that if someone in kelbys family or freind of kelbys knew that he was capable or ever thaught he was capable of doing this that they would have just stood and watched this , just think about that for a mint, how would you look for that? do all you people out there that critisize peoples familys for someone else actions believe its there fault to? do you realy think that people can read others minds? im verry mad at what people can say to hurt so many people,do you think keicas fammily and kelbys fammily want this to carry on like a wild circus?? ir this site is for exspreesing your feelings without being destructive for both fanilys than please do, but as i read through there are some verry sad people in this topc, why dont most of you people try n help the people who where hurt from this rather than try and cause more harm, remember god created us ALL , he also works in mysterious ways, I think at a time like this the best healing to do and the best way for you all to evsprees your feelings would be to PRAY, my heart goes out to both familys and i will pray for both , also for all of you that qoute such terrible things about people that you dont even know , yes I will pray for you TO god bless you all
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<quoted text>yougogirl I agree with you I took it as he was pointing it twards you or anyone else that has made any comment about Kelby. If someone wanted to know what or when he became like this I would have to say well we grew up together and I would say from about the age of 12!
srry to say that we all know you n why did you yurn into this fat slimmy overweight pig that you are with a mouth that could n did swallow many when you were young and still fat!!
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PRAYING FOR ALL wrote:
<quoted text> well than you should exspress your feelings. I feel so sad for both familiys, i couldnt even imagine how bad i would feel if it were my daughter or my son I exspress my feelings for both familys, how can you tell when someone is going to snap on such a manner to do such a terrible thing? do you realy think that if someone in kelbys family or freind of kelbys knew that he was capable or ever thaught he was capable of doing this that they would have just stood and watched this , just think about that for a mint, how would you look for that? do all you people out there that critisize peoples familys for someone else actions believe its there fault to? do you realy think that people can read others minds? im verry mad at what people can say to hurt so many people,do you think keicas fammily and kelbys fammily want this to carry on like a wild circus?? ir this site is for exspreesing your feelings without being destructive for both fanilys than please do, but as i read through there are some verry sad people in this topc, why dont most of you people try n help the people who where hurt from this rather than try and cause more harm, remember god created us ALL , he also works in mysterious ways, I think at a time like this the best healing to do and the best way for you all to evsprees your feelings would be to PRAY, my heart goes out to both familys and i will pray for both , also for all of you that qoute such terrible things about people that you dont even know , yes I will pray for you TO god bless you all
Yes, I DO THINK there are Signs, YES, you CAN tell when a person is gearing up to do something horrible. Yes, I DO think his family basically just stood by and watched. As long as it didn't reflect on them or hurt them in any way. Then NO I don't think they cared what he did.
It's not just HIS family like that, I believe there are (unfortunately) a lot of families out there like this. They act like their sh** don't stink but the morals are somewhere so low that you can't find em'. But if anybody does anything to make em' look bad ..well forget it for that person.
YES THERE WERE SIGNS. YES HE COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED. NO HE DID NOT JUST SNAP. IT WAS PREMEDITATED.

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bog bog u fat slob wrote:
<quoted text> srry to say that we all know you n why did you yurn into this fat slimmy overweight pig that you are with a mouth that could n did swallow many when you were young and still fat!!
Well if you think you know me and everyone else on this site feel free to email me and show your face on who you think I am! As for being a "slimmy overweight pig" What exactly is SLIMMY and YURN if you mean I am a slender, as in girth or form I understand that word YURN I am guessing you ment to say TURN. I was never "FAT" in school or as a child not that I have to explain myself to you.I am a average build for my height and weight from what the BMI index shows. Then again by the way you spell you sound like your a carny in the circus or a back woods low life that has nothing better to do than slam people that they think they know. Funny you hide your profile and have no other comments on any other topic? Are you a mental case is Kelby one of your friends? If he is feel free to voice your thoughts on this forum! I am sure that your a coward and wont have the balls to respond! If you do it will be something negative or off topic!
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<quoted text>Well if you think you know me and everyone else on this site feel free to email me and show your face on who you think I am! As for being a "slimmy overweight pig" What exactly is SLIMMY and YURN if you mean I am a slender, as in girth or form I understand that word YURN I am guessing you ment to say TURN. I was never "FAT" in school or as a child not that I have to explain myself to you.I am a average build for my height and weight from what the BMI index shows. Then again by the way you spell you sound like your a carny in the circus or a back woods low life that has nothing better to do than slam people that they think they know. Funny you hide your profile and have no other comments on any other topic? Are you a mental case is Kelby one of your friends? If he is feel free to voice your thoughts on this forum! I am sure that your a coward and wont have the balls to respond! If you do it will be something negative or off topic!
That person is behaving the same way you are.....

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someone else wrote:
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That person is behaving the same way you are.....
Once again the reason for this forum is for what people want to vent about. If people feel that what is being said is wrong then they get corrected. As fas as the comment about me and my so called weight what does that have to do with this topic? Why dont you and that person make up your own forum about the things you dont like about the people that are venting on this one you have the right to you know!
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#259
Aug 14, 2010
 
Dear Aunt mim, Sorry but I have never met Kelby, and if I would have, believe me (He would not have rejected me!!) I am furious to see Kecia's friend's would post on here all the negative and nasty comments that they have. Kecia was a wonderful girl,I just wonder why she had such friends (with no class or brains) maybe she felt sorry for them!!! not sure, but I can tell you she would not have wanted this! Also I work with and know many AWESOME SKIBAS!!!! and I am praying for THEM every day! And NO I AM NOT A SKIBA!
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#260
Aug 14, 2010
 
hmmm wrote:
This is a horrific act and we will NEVER KNOW WHAT SNAPPED in Kelby's mind
What are the causes of domestic violence?

The single most influential factor of domestic violence in society is the continuation of a generational cycle of abuse and/or a history of abuse in the family of origin. Children who grow up in an environment where control is maintained through verbal threats and intimidation and conflicts escalate into physical violence, are more likely to resort to the same methods of abuse as adults. There are, however, a number of predictors that may lead to domestic violence.

An environment where violence is either taught, by example, or accepted as "normal" will imprint upon a child's psyche. A young boy may see his father come home from work drunk and angry, screaming at his mother. He watches his mother attempt to please and placate his father's drunken behavior. The young boy is being taught that violence gets results. He is developing his own ideas about what makes a man.

Domestic violence is often linked to poor self-esteem. A child growing up in a violent home is likely to have very little self-worth. He may be engaged in a pattern of negative self-talk.“If I were any good, my father wouldn’t beat me. I’ll never amount to anything.” As a young man, his frustration and isolation may grow and, along with it, a hidden anger due to his feelings of helplessness. Anger is a major source of fuel that will fan the flames of domestic violence.

Drug and/or alcohol abuse may be a precursor to domestic violence. Substance abuse leads to out-of-control behavior. The number one commonality within the dynamics of most alcoholic families is poor emotional health. This leads to secondary anger, which is an ineffective substitute for dealing honestly with emotions.

Domestic violence is more frequent where individuals experience loss of physical health and/or wage-earning power. It peaks during the Christmas season as husbands, fathers, and single parents face the pressures of paying bill collectors and buying Christmas gifts. The frustration of the inability to "make ends meet" increases conflicts in the home. Feelings of helpless mount. Anger flares. In the face of inadequate coping mechanisms, violence erupts in the home and everyone loses.

Simply put, domestic violence is the absence of what the Bible refers to as living peaceably with all men (Romans 12:18b, KJV). The first act of domestic violence recorded in the Bible is that of Cain, who killed his brother Abel, out of jealousy. The answer to this cycle of violence is found in a surrendered life to God, which results in a transformation of the heart and mind (Romans 12:1-2).
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#261
Aug 14, 2010
 
Alpena. 49707 BRAVO!!! VERY well put, I could not have said it any better.
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#262
Aug 14, 2010
 
I will take "what is a cinner" for $500, please?

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Aug 14, 2010
 
Its not me wrote:
Alpena. 49707 BRAVO!!! VERY well put, I could not have said it any better.
thanks, but I cant take credit for it. Should have put http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/causes-...

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