Hogar Crea, regional drug rehab group, ripping itself apart

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Protesters massed outside the Hogar Crea house in Allentown on Wednesday as a battle for control of the drug and alcohol rehabilitation group, plagued for years by internal disputes and other problems, spilled ...
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DancingDoll

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Well speaking from experience, the program is a good program. I didnt have a drug problem but As a teenager I experimented with Drugs and My parents decided I need to get myself together for a few months. The Womens center is basically run by self proclaimed life coaches who think that because they lived in a house and followed its rule their lives are now miraculously recovered. It has its pros, as for the program has certain values that it tries to re instill in the addict and thus has several ways of doing so. My all time Favority activity was that of confrontation therapy, Where all the people in the house sit in a circle and theres someone in the middle and you proceed to tell that person everything thats wrong with them without them being allowed to answer or respond back. Even if what theyre saying is not true.Everything the resident does wrong is brought to them not only in confrontation but daily in the form of point outs and they are required to respond with "I accept" Ex: Companion youre wrong you didnt push your chair in.
"I accept."
refusal to accept a point out may lead to a confrontation and thus an AID, which gives the resident an additional chore or task to perform for a week. AIDS are to be viewed a help. And as for selling stuff on the street. It's basicaly to get a person who may never have had a job used to the idea of working for the money. Since it is a self sustained organization, money from sales is used to pay the houses bills, the vans gas, and the salaries of those who are emplyed by the organization. the ACCESS cards are not given to the residents and are always used by staff to purchase house essentials. once a person leaves treatment their welfare is canceled and they wont recieve anymore financial help
Its pretty much a fucking joke. That shit dosent cure anything. It only drives you even crazier to be forced to live in a house with so many stupid rules.
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It's really sad to see people wasting their time with non-sense comments and not educated about what drugs or alcohol can do to u and your family...I was a drug addict n even though I didn't went to this particular program I learn that the percent of recovery its very low regardless of what type of program u go to. I was in a very expensive drug treatment and the vast majority of clients were doctors, attorneys and people with professional career that this is their 2nd ,3rd or maybe their 4th attempt to get sober. So please if u going to comment about something that u NEVER experience let that comment be something positive and not base of a rumor because for that matter president Bush Jr. was coca-head and got elected twice.
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I was in hogar crea and Fernando Felix is the kin pin of all of this scam. He is stealing thousand of dollars from the government and he is making money of the addicts.
Door King

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Jonny wrote:
Iím kind of curious. While shopping at Giant Foods on Union Blvd, I was behind three Hogar Crea members who where buying Ice, candy and gum and paying with an ACCESS card. Does belonging to Hogar Crea automatically let you get one of these ACCESS Cards, if so sign me up. If I can pay for my food with an ACCESS Card like the three of them did, then I could go out and buy me a pair of those $150.00 Sneakers and Expensive Clothes the three of them were wearing and maybe even some of the gold chains they had on. How the HELL does that make any sense?
Why don't you quit your job, become a drug addict and find out?
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Guys, "It is easier to light a candle than curse the darkness." --Be part of the solution, and not the problem."
I often use these individuals to help me move, or move family members.(Of course at my discretion) Also when I need an extra set of hands around work, they are always willing to help and make a little money on the side. For example, after the storm, a big clean up was needed. Well, I hired 3 of the guys at $10.00/hr and they worked very hard. I bought them lunch and they were very appreciative. Every time I need help with labor, I call this agency and they are very helpful. Everyone needs a chance to prove themselves. It is not how many times we fall, but how many times we get up, that matters.
Uncle Sloppy

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I've got one thing to say.The original is always the best. It's A.A. or it's not. Peace out.
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Centralia Demon wrote:
Wow, so the one protester is claiming that being director of Hogar Crea is the first job in history where previous drug use is a REQUIREMENT.
And, its good to see all these drug addicts and drunks have all this free time run these protests. Guess they didnt get jobs yet, huh.
http://start.toshiba.com/search/index.php...
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LazyGoya wrote:
Who cares what they do, just sell me damn pie by Aharts on my way home.
Your not right my husband in that place I hope you get sick off one of those pies so you can rehabilitate your ass to the er
A-Town Observer

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Mar 12, 2012
 
Felisha wrote:
<quoted text>Your not right my husband in that place I hope you get sick off one of those pies so you can rehabilitate your ass to the er
Lmfao, that's how you spanish people get down, hoping someone gets sick off the flan. You are fked up. And the whole Hogar Crea program is laughed at by white people, remember that.
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Apr 26, 2012
 
My BF is in this place.... And I have had the feeling for the longest time that there was something, in fact, wrong with the way that things were done there.... I'm curious though, how is it that Hogar Crea can continue to stay open?? By the way that it sounds, all of the addicts that go in there, are pretty much not learning anything about trying to stay clean and sober...... My personal opinion, I feel that they would benefit more from AA/NA meetings at least 3x a week more so that being forced to stay in a place from 18-24 months, if not longer..... I really think that Hogar Crea should be investigated to the fullest!!!!!!!
A-town Observer

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Angie wrote:
My BF is in this place.... And I have had the feeling for the longest time that there was something, in fact, wrong with the way that things were done there.... I'm curious though, how is it that Hogar Crea can continue to stay open?? By the way that it sounds, all of the addicts that go in there, are pretty much not learning anything about trying to stay clean and sober...... My personal opinion, I feel that they would benefit more from AA/NA meetings at least 3x a week more so that being forced to stay in a place from 18-24 months, if not longer..... I really think that Hogar Crea should be investigated to the fullest!!!!!!!
Angie the program is a joke. No white people are there to make sure everything is run the right way. I known about five "addicts" that went through the program. They all are in worse condition now and say it should be shut down. Hopefully Hogar Crea goes out of business because thats all they are.
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Apr 27, 2012
 
It worked for me!
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Apr 28, 2012
 
A-town Observer..... I know that the program is a joke, this is the second time that my BF has gone there.... I also think that it should be shut down because even my BF's aunt went through the prgram and she is back on drugs all over again.... I'm curious to know why this place is even still open!!!!!!!!
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May 3, 2012
 
just like any program it only works if u work it, hogar crea is a good program, everytime i see those guys there respectable, have manners & are tryin to do the right thing. there are some people who have never done drugs that are worse than addicts in, understand what im saying people? wake up!
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eddie wrote:
just like any program it only works if u work it, hogar crea is a good program, everytime i see those guys there respectable, have manners & are tryin to do the right thing. there are some people who have never done drugs that are worse than addicts in, understand what im saying people? wake up!
Corruption in every phase of the Hogar Crea program is the problem. Staff/clients getting high, misuse of public funding, and many more internal programs should have caused this digrace of a program to be shut down a long time ago. Standing on random corners selling their nasty cheesecake and flan for all these years. Is that like the hispanic approach to recovery? Again, lack of adequate and sufficient leadership. I heard the relapse rate is like 80%. Shut it down.

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