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4 Southern senators on one man's bad side

Full story: Asheville Citizen-Times

Regarding this "comprehensively awful" immigration reform: The adage goes something like this: "If you fool me once, shame on you.

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Curtis Brown

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Jun 26, 2007
 
With these four and others their motivation is easy to understand. It's all about the money from big business. Any other reason they give is B/S
Mike

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Jun 26, 2007
 
I thnk you'll find Sen. Dole against this immigration bill. Look before you leap.

“Illegals are not immigrants...”

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Jun 26, 2007
 
I have bombarded Lott with emails and faxes as countless others have done as well...apparently he's not listening.

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Jun 26, 2007
 
"Immigration" refers to those who wish to follow legal procedures and come to the US legally. When the bill is referred to as "Immigration Reform", you have denied the illegality of the condition.

This situation is ILLEGAL MIGRATION, or unarmed invasion. 12 to 20 million illegals will be followed by their families which could easily push the number to 35 to 40 million aliens.

Senator Dole is against the bill, so I don't know why the letter writer mentions her.

Congress does bow to economic pressure from employers who are profiting from the migration.

Congress sees this as an easy band aid fix. The Government already has a plan to erase the borders with Canada and Mexico, to create a "Europe" in the Western Hemisphere. The plan can be punched up on the gov. website.

The debate begins today but TV is interested in showing Paris Hilton being released early from jail and what her life is going to be like now.
Tom Shuford

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Jun 26, 2007
 
As regards to what letter-writer C. H. Stone correctly dubs "comprehensively awful" immigration reform, he writes, "...there are four Southerners in the U.S. Senate who in my opinion are manipulative scalawags. They are Trent Lott, Mississippi; Lindsey Graham, South Carolina; and Elizabeth Dole and Richard Burr from North Carolina."

Stone is either deliberately misleading or uninformed.

On the immigration issue, Senator Dole is the polar opposite of Lindsey Graham. Dole's gone out of her way to try to bury the Bush-Kennedy-McCain-Graham bill.

Trent Lott is in the middle somewhere but saying silly things of late. Senator Burr is closer to Dole, but wavering a bit. But I think Burr will not vote for cloture, which would move the amnesty legislation to a final vote.

We will see.

Americans for Better Immigration, which is an affiliate of NumbersUSA, which weeks to reduce immigration and to battle the Bush-Kennedy-McCain comprehensive amnesty efforts, maintains "Immigration Report Cards" on all members of Congress. At this map, click on the state of NC to see your representative's and senators' records. Then click on South Carolina to see Senator Lindsey Graham's record:
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/

Then take a look a Mississippi's Senator Lott's grade and Senator Kennedy (of Massachusetts) grade.
Frank Rizzo

Raleigh, NC

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Jun 26, 2007
 
cudzuqueen wrote:
I have bombarded Lott with emails and faxes as countless others have done as well...apparently he's not listening.
Your likely just a drone that is programmed by talk radio and can't actually think for yourself.

Or so Trent Lott says about those opposing the legislation.
Amazed

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Jun 26, 2007
 
You know I have never really liked Burr. He strikes me as someone who waits to see which way the "wind is blowing" before committing to something. If you cant make up your own mind I think you should allow the job to go to someone who can. He just seems fake to me. But then again he is made from the same political mold as most others.
Screwy Hoolie

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Jun 26, 2007
 
I think the immigration hardliners will get their way once again, and absolutely nothing will get done.

They'd rather scuttle compromise legislation and see nothing change than to see increased border security and a path to citizenship.

If this doesn't pass, then it'll be 2 years before a new bill comes around.

So, to opponents of compromise legislation, you can have something, or you can have nothing. So far you've chosen nothing.
IMOKRU

Columbia, SC

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Jun 26, 2007
 
I have called his Winston Salem office and his political office 3-4 times in the past month to register my VOTER displeasure to any senator who finds anything redeemable in this legislation other than opening the flood gates for more illegal immigartion. Google his name for the phone numbers. As a Reagan republican I am about done with the GOP. If the president signs this legislation I'll change to un-affliated. I no longer desire to support a national party bent on collective political oblivion and causing irreparable harm to the United States.

“Illegals are not immigrants...”

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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Your likely just a drone that is programmed by talk radio and can't actually think for yourself.
Or so Trent Lott says about those opposing the legislation.
No, just somebody who sees the negative impact of illegals' kids in our school system..somebody who see the inordinate amount of money being spent on this group of children with no real academic progress being made as a result. I see the average students being left at the proverbial wayside, while more programs are getting implemented for ESL students, whose parents don't do a whole lot to help fund. I notice that almost all of these kids have free breakfast and free lunches, while their poppy drives off in a chromed-up new truck. Go figure.

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Screwy Hoolie wrote:
I think the immigration hardliners will get their way once again, and absolutely nothing will get done.
They'd rather scuttle compromise legislation and see nothing change than to see increased border security and a path to citizenship.
If this doesn't pass, then it'll be 2 years before a new bill comes around.
So, to opponents of compromise legislation, you can have something, or you can have nothing. So far you've chosen nothing.
...this bill is an abomination as well as a deliberate slap in the face to legal immigrants and taxpayers alike. These illegals, to whom they want to bestow this amnesty, have no real desire to become Americans, therefore, they shouldn't be allowed to remain here to suck the life out of this country. After this batch is given free rein of this country, more will wisk through the border, because it will never be a secured. The illegals will get their amnesty, but will never pay any fines because they won't take the pathway to becoming citizens; hence, there will be no funding for securing the border...the whole thing is a sham...everthing will just remain status quo...no matter what the liars tell us.
daddy

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Jun 26, 2007
 
cudzuqueen wrote:
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...this bill is an abomination as well as a deliberate slap in the face to legal immigrants and taxpayers alike. These illegals, to whom they want to bestow this amnesty, have no real desire to become Americans, therefore, they shouldn't be allowed to remain here to suck the life out of this country. After this batch is given free rein of this country, more will wisk through the border, because it will never be a secured. The illegals will get their amnesty, but will never pay any fines because they won't take the pathway to becoming citizens; hence, there will be no funding for securing the border...the whole thing is a sham...everthing will just remain status quo...no matter what the liars tell us.
as the sleepy populace stirs, the realization of paying the rich guys taxes and the replacement of the middle class with the latest immigrants now dawns upon them...Pat Buchanan just this morning bellows out..."this is blanket amnesty for wholesale illegality"...perhaps an omen for the future when the exact same words will be used about the bushbaby cheeny cabal as they skirt the international courts they scoff at and the populcae is forced by PROXY to prepare them a place in our future and pay their pensions as they live among us...in the meanwhile the MAINSCREAM media welcomes Paris Hilton back to the pinnacle of societys favor...

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Senator Dole is opposed to this immigration bill. The following link is a statement she made on the Senate floor regarding illegals and DWI's.

http://dole.senate.gov/index.cfm...

“Why do ya need to know that?”

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Jun 26, 2007
 
I dont understand why people are saying the illegals are the "middle" class. They have no class to start with, as they are illegal and shouldnt be here in the first place, let alone be part of "anything" in the USA. Am I the only one who thinks like this?

And good for Senator Dole.
Fredrick

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Jun 26, 2007
 
How or how good the Senators are is a matter of opinion of he individual. I note that the four mentioned are Republicans - I can list four Democrats that "are on the bad side" of issues that Isupport or like. Also, the writer did not offer a solution to his purported issue.
My advice to these four is they better pay attention to such comments because we saw the same tactics used on Congressman Taylor.
A word to these Republicans, the Democrats are more organized then you think.
Frank Rizzo

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#16
Jun 26, 2007
 
Screwy,

The politicians can cry and whine all they want and proclaim to us that this bill has real enforcement provisions. It is all lies. 100% lies.

The Simpson-Mazzoli bill in 1986 had strong enforcement provisions as well and they were used as cover for amnesty back then as they are now.

Those aspects of the law were never enforced and the ones in todays bill will never be enforced.

It is all a scam being pulled on the American people.

Lets see Congress and Justice enforce existing immigration laws and enforce and tighten our border for several years to prove they can and will do it, and then lets talk about additional reforms.

But as it stands now, you can take it to the bank, the enforcement provisions will never actually be enforced and carried out.

Never.
Booked

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Rather than whining about it behind the keyboard, why not resort to vigilante-ism and genocide and rid America of these illegals that upset you so much. I know this is extreme, but some of you people just won't be pleased with any other outcome.

“retired”

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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Lets see Congress and Justice enforce existing immigration laws and enforce and tighten our border for several years to prove they can and will do it, and then lets talk about additional reforms.
But as it stands now, you can take it to the bank, the enforcement provisions will never actually be enforced and carried out.
Never.
You're right about it never being carried out. The media would have a field day showing people being dragged back to the border. There would be demonstrations by churches that are illegally hiding illegal migrants and groups that wait with water and food near the border, to aid the criminals. America enforces laws that are popular, or raise money. Politicians have no stomach for tough issues.
daddy

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Dunnin wrote:
I dont understand why people are saying the illegals are the "middle" class. They have no class to start with, as they are illegal and shouldnt be here in the first place, let alone be part of "anything" in the USA. Am I the only one who thinks like this?
And good for Senator Dole.
it is like this...the legals are the emerging middle class not the illegals which is another story...the USA is being pummeled into the rich elite and the poor and the middle class is taking it hard on the chin knocked down and can't get up...you need to aspire to be rich and identify with them...identify with the poor if your lifestyle and money say it is so...or say hello to the emerging middle class senor y senora y senorita...the middle class can look around and see their vanashing lifestyle their kids with no kids and rich immigration promoted and paying the rich guys taxes and you can fill in the rest of the blanks__________
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Jun 26, 2007
 
Congress must pass the bill. The problem isn't going anywhere and will only get worse in a couple of years when another bill comes back.
But in a couple of years the Democrats will have an even bigger majority in both houses. And the bill will be even more lenient for illegal immigrants.
At the end of the day, you cannot ignore millions who work hard to provide for their families.
And, no, it won't be the end of the US as we know it.
If you saw the US-Mexico soccer game on Sunday from Chicago, a lot of Mexico fans remained after the game to applaud the American team for their efforts and vistory.
The bill must pass!(And it shall pass: if not now, in a couple of years or so)
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