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Well maybe, unless you are being backed and funded by all the people and groups who will make a fortune off the rail project......at taxpayer expense of course.
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8 Well maybe, unless you are being backed and funded by all the people and groups who will make a fortune off the rail project......at taxpayer expense of course. |
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5 Instead of applauding, you should be booing mufi, his crony contractors, letter writing architects, p.r. mouth jobs and the rest of your sycophants feeding at the public trough of this make work project for the politically connected that we, the Tax Payers, cannot afford. You advocate mufi shoving this extravagant luxury we don't need RIGHT NOW, down our throats "even if it damages his political career." That's right, it has and will cause "damages (to) his political career" as you acknowledge. Tyrants can always count on lolos like you to idolize them, and mufi surrounds himself with such yes-men and hostesses.(See former KSBE hostess Elisa Yadao, and her walking off with $500,000 CASH for printing shiney brochures to "promote rail." Yadao worked on mufi's campaign too as a "volunteer" too.) You are like cattle on the way to slaughter. Eh, Hirotomi, taxes and fees went UP under mufi to offset monies funneled into the pockets of those profiting off of your stupidity. |
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6 Just once, willie and Hiro: lift yourself out of Attack Mode and see rail for what it is -- a lifestyle-enhancing, traffic-avoiding, economy-stimulating good thing. Can you do that? Didn't think so. |
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4 Spoken like a true union guy. |
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4 Sure thing. All one has to do is read current events. Take a gander at the mass transit situation in Philidelphia. I really do want to ditch my car and depend totally on rail only to have the union minions grab me by the short hairs and go out on strike. I really would not mind burning up all my vacation time because I can no longer get to work on the rail.....assuming of course I live within walking distance of a station and my job is within walking distance of a station. As to "economy-stimulating " leave the 5 billion in the hands of the taxpayers and you will stimulate the economy far more than handing it to the folks who may or may not spend it in Hawaii. Have a great day.....I know I will watching them struggle to fix the water main break...funny how we can't maintain what we have and yet folks want to build a white elephant that will cost hundreds of millions a year to subsidize and maintain. |
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2 This tendency to extrapolate from an isolated event to reach conclusions about what we should or shouldn't do really can't pass the logic test. No doubt that building big expensive high-tech things require money to operate and maintain....but if you have a way to help commuters avoid the gridlock on the H-1 twice a day AND do so without spending any money, by all means, tell us what it is. BTW, if somebody you rely on goes on strike, figure a way around it until the strike's over! It's called having alternatives -- like rail will be to driving 3 mph on the freeway morning and night. |
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1 There are more than two airlines serving Hawaii and last I checked will only be ONE rail line (thank goodness). Anyone with half a brain knows the unions own the islands and have an iron fist. They HAVE to be considered in the overall scheme of things. BTW, when did 200 year old technology suddenly become "high tech" ? Railroads been around a LONG time in case you just fell off the turnip truck. Let me see, avoid grid lock...well you could start with having a few lanes dedicated to car pools...get most of the single rider cars off the road. Next would be a serious limit on new growth of any kind. Need more housing, rehab EXISTING houses rather thna buikld a 5 bilion dollar rail line to a plot of ground so you can add 12,000 NEW houses to an already overcrowded island. Rail, for what it will cost and the way it is planned is NOT going to reduce congestion at all..in case you missed that tiny fact..it was never touted to in any case.... |
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4 oHA will sue claiming endless bones..etc. Rail is dead. |
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2 Response: Guess you haven't heard about computer-controlled driver-less trains.... Your quote: "Let me see, avoid grid lock...well you could start with having a few lanes dedicated to car pools...get most of the single rider cars off the road. Next would be a serious limit on new growth of any kind. Need more housing, rehab EXISTING houses rather thna buikld a 5 bilion dollar rail line to a plot of ground so you can add 12,000 NEW houses to an already overcrowded island. Response: Now THAT's an idea that's never been tried -- car pools! Continued reliance on the car...and build more highways to accommodate car pools....just amazingly unoriginal thinking. Re one-child or no-child families or whatever means you have to curtail growth: Ain't gonna happen. Society provides for the next generation, and the next and the next. Oahu's continued growth will come from inside, not from immigration. Or maybe you just want to mandate young families live in rehab homes... Hey, draconian measures work in Singapore; maybe they'll work in Hawaii, too! Your quote: "Rail, for what it will cost and the way it is planned is NOT going to reduce congestion at all..in case you missed that tiny fact..it was never touted to in any case...." At least you have that last part right; rail was never touted to "solve" traffic, but you got the rest wrong. Rail WILL reduce congestion from what it would grow to without rail. It'll leave more lanes for the turnip trucks. |
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3 Please name a city, anywhere in the world,which; 1) Had a traffic problem 2) Built rail 3) No longer had a traffic problem (especially at commute times) Fact is there is none. Rail never improves traffic. It actually worsens it by doing what it is really intended to do,... that is to allow more development, more housing, more people, more cars. That enriches the developers and the Unions. But it NEVER solves traffic problems. It makes traffic worse. |
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4 Facts are whether you like the Mayor or not at least he is not one of those politicians who leads as the wind blows. You know those types who never get anything done, never do anything controversal and after 8 years in office have no accomplishments to show for it. I salute the Mayor for standing alone for a project that my fellow neighbors on the west side are screaming for because it is needed. Please throw solutions not stones. |
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1 Poi, you're using the old Cliff Slater argument: show me one city where traffic has been reduced when transit's been built. There are none -- but not because of Cliff's and your assertion that rail's a failure. It's because city populations grow! Of course traffic gets worse. But guess what: without rail transit, there's no alternative to sitting in that traffic. So you're absolutely right. Rail never solves traffic problems....but I have to chuckle at your assertion that it makes traffic worse. Families having babies makes traffic worse; continued reliance on cars without an alternative makes traffic worse. Just go inquire of the millions who commute by rail transit around the world whether it works or not. There's no question about it. |
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2 Please don't disrespect people's views as I am sure you wouldn't want anyone disrepecting yours. It is clear Mr. Hirotomi took the time to write this letter. Thank you Spock Carslile for your views. |
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1 Sure, here is a nice news story about one, there are tons more shall I dredge them up too? http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/06/22/washington.s... I never said build more roads turnip...just make better use of the CURRENT ones. Here is a novel idea for you, have the people who will benefit from rail pay for rail, like the builders of those new subdivisions, the riders etc...also, charge what it actually will cost to run and maintain it...even if it turns out to be $20 one way...you like THAT idea? |
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