Controversy Over Ole Miss Chant - WREG

jay wrote:

Lady M, I'm not the one crying racism when I don't get my way. This what this whole controversy is about. The blacks are saying the song, the flag, and the mascot has a racist theme...

Neither am I. If you refer back to my original post, I said that getting rid of the Ole Miss fight song was unnecessary. It's a part of Southern heritage which was EXACTLY the same point you were making in your point. I supposed you missed all that since you got a little irked by my second post.

And like I said before, lobbing people into one broad category doesn't help your "I'm all for peace," claim. You're assuming all blacks think all whites are out to get them. Since I don't know every white or black person in this country I can't make such a broad claim. I can only speak for myself. I depend on no one else and I hold myself responsible for my own actions, as any responsible adult would do (and should do). I could care less about the fight song. I don't find it offensive. It's culturally relevant to the school. I think people are making a big deal out of nothing and perhaps more importantly I go to the University of Memphis. Why would I really care what the Ole Miss fight song has in it? Whether they change or not would have no effect on me. I say let the students decide whether or not the lyrics should be altered since they're main group that will be effected by the change. Better yet have an open forum and figure what the real problem is. 9 times out of 10 there's a more serious issue behind trivial stuff like this. Open dialogues are incredibly important and effect aids in such a situation.

jay

Lady M, I can tell you are a intelligent person, and I respect your opinion. And agree people are making something out of nothing. I live and work around Oxford. Where I work, I am the minority, and hear the white man is bringing us down, the rebel flag is racist,etc,etc... I am speaking on a personal level, on how black people feel about NOTHING. I hear it everyday. It sickens me....

Lady M

Well it's like they say "Where you stand depends on where you sit." I grew up in Ohio in a mutli-ethnic neighborhood so I have no really personal feelings regarding any of this (plus I'm studying history so I've got to learn to view things like this with some objectivity). I can only imagine your frustration. I suppose if I was in your shoes I would have a negative opinion too.

jay

Lady M, its been nice to talk ya. You take care.

indepublicrat

Jackson, MS

Tony wrote:

Louis Farrakhan, a real racist, comes to Memphis with his bow tied morons and speaks to a packed house. I think our former Mayor was even in attendance. No one bats an eye to that, but this nonsense gets attention from the media.

so because louis farrakhan speaks out about the past,present, and future of "America" he is a "real racist". I think white people are confused here, let's look at it, if there hadn't been staunt racism from white people who tortured, killed, raped, denied every right to black people there wouldn't be a louis farrakhan, malcolm x, or jeremiah wright. it just baffles me how when a rebellious black man stands up and calls out the establishment a white man calls him racist or unpatriotic. i don't understand.

indepublicrat

Jackson, MS

jay wrote:

Lady M, I can tell you are a intelligent person, and I respect your opinion. And agree people are making something out of nothing. I live and work around Oxford. Where I work, I am the minority, and hear the white man is bringing us down, the rebel flag is racist,etc,etc... I am speaking on a personal level, on how black people feel about NOTHING. I hear it everyday. It sickens me....

Well, if you don't have a horse in the race uhhh..........

indepublicrat

Jackson, MS

RETHA wrote:

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AMEN.WHAT ABOUT JET MAG.

what about jet mag.

jay

Hey, indepublicrat, Listen, You missed the part in the History book where, African tribe leaders sold the slaves to the white man...And, do you realize that there is more black on black crime, than white on black, or white on white. So that must be our fault too...

justhangin

people choose to be offended. Maybe a few white people should get offended over black history month, Miss black America (obiviously discrimating), the NAACP, Louis Farakan, the porn-rap and thumping heard thru closed doors, cracker, whitey, and qtip bs. But fortunatly, most white people have not lowered themselves to this level.

jay

Cracker and whitey, and white boy, redneck, white trash,etc...is the same thing as the the N word. I was going to spell it out, but wreg blocked, now that says alot...

Lady M

Well some people are offended by those things that you mentioned. But anytime people in a society try to seperate the "us" from the "them" someone is going to get offended.

justhangin

jay wrote:

Cracker and whitey, and white boy, redneck, white trash,etc...is the same thing as the the N word. I was going to spell it out, but wreg blocked, now that says alot...

Amazing how they don't block the slang names for white people, but try just once to use the 'n' word and look what happens. Talk about discrimination. Its like they don't care if they offend white people, but we better be real careful not to offend black people

Notallofus

I'd welcome your becoming a die-hard MSU fan. Most of us who are normal, white, Ole Miss Alumni (that means actual graduate) are equally offended by the stupid chant. It IS NOT a Ole Miss tradition. In all my years of games, that chant started only 5 or 6 years ago by a very few of the fans at the games. It may have been chanted during segregation, but not in the many decades since then. We ARE NOT proud of who we were then and I'd like to continue being proud of who we have grown to be. Let's save the stupid arguemnets for things that actually matter. Again, Ole Miss has plenty of fans. You're more than welcome to take your opinions to MSU.

DCinMissippi wrote:

In case the bleeding hearts have not noticed, the South IS rising again. It is rising as an economic and industrial force in this nation. I think it is something to be proud of. Quite frankly, I disliked it when they took the Battle Flag away from us, I got mad as heck when they took Col. Reb away from us, and if they go through with this restriction on Freedom of Speech, I WILL from that point forward be a diehard MISSISSIPPI STATE BULLDOG FAN.
After all, like it or not, Confederate history IS AMERICAN history, and we are in a former Confederate state, and we are proud of who we are and where we came from.

Notallofus

RETHA wrote:

IF THE LYRICS GET TAKEN AWAY, ALL THE FANS SHOULD GET UP AND WALK OUT. I BET THERE WILL BE MORE LEAVING THAN STAYING.THIS MAY GET THE REBEL FLAG BACK PLUS THE COL. REB. FANS JOIN HANDS AND TAKE THE STAND

Real Ole Miss fans could not care less about that chant. We are there to support our team and hopefully see a win. No one bitches when our star black players score a touchdown. Anyone who leaves will just leave seats open in our sold-out stadium and there are plenty of people looking for a seat.

Notallofus

Lady M wrote:

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Neither am I. If you refer back to my original post, I said that getting rid of the Ole Miss fight song was unnecessary. It's a part of Southern heritage which was EXACTLY the same point you were making in your point. I supposed you missed all that since you got a little irked by my second post.
And like I said before, lobbing people into one broad category doesn't help your "I'm all for peace," claim. You're assuming all blacks think all whites are out to get them. Since I don't know every white or black person in this country I can't make such a broad claim. I can only speak for myself. I depend on no one else and I hold myself responsible for my own actions, as any responsible adult would do (and should do). I could care less about the fight song. I don't find it offensive. It's culturally relevant to the school. I think people are making a big deal out of nothing and perhaps more importantly I go to the University of Memphis. Why would I really care what the Ole Miss fight song has in it? Whether they change or not would have no effect on me. I say let the students decide whether or not the lyrics should be altered since they're main group that will be effected by the change. Better yet have an open forum and figure what the real problem is. 9 times out of 10 there's a more serious issue behind trivial stuff like this. Open dialogues are incredibly important and effect aids in such a situation.

That is NOT THE OLE MISS FIGHT SONG!

Notallofus

jay wrote:

Hey, indepublicrat, Listen, You missed the part in the History book where, African tribe leaders sold the slaves to the white man...And, do you realize that there is more black on black crime, than white on black, or white on white. So that must be our fault too...

This conversation has absoultely nothing to do with Ole Miss. It sickens me that my school and our alumni and students of all races have to deal with this.

Lady M