Chicago mayor, others seek stricter gun-control laws

The Mayor should practice what he preaches. If he truly beleives gun control works and that it is what is best for the people he should establish a gun free zone around himself and all of his croneys. NO ONE (includeing his staff and security) should be allowed to have ANY firearms within 1000 yards of any of them. His security staff should have the same restrictions placed on them as is placed on the citizens that elected him. His security staff can carry pepper spray and whistles.

"Chicago mayor, others seek stricter gun-control laws"

Then the "mayor" and "others" are TRAITORS to We The People. According to the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution - THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. There ISN'T supposed to be ANY 'gun control laws'. Congress was EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN from enacting ANY law that contravenes the Natural Right of the American citizen to Keep and Bear Arms.

The following explains our God-given, Inherent and Inalienable Natural Right as it was INTENDED by the men whom framed our Constitution:

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government ... The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms..."

- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #28.
http://gunshowonthenet.com/FederalistPapers/F...

"The opinion of the Federalist has always been considered as of great authority. It is a complete commentary on our Constitution; and is appealed to by all parties in the questions to which that instrument has given birth. Its intrinsic merit entitles it to this high rank; and the part two of its authors performed in framing the constitution, put it very much in their power to explain the views with which it was framed..."

- Chief Justice John Marshall, U.S. Supreme Court, Cohens v. Virginia (1821).
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/CohensvVirgi...

"Also, the conditions and circumstances of the period require a finding that while the stated purpose of the right to arms was to secure a well-regulated militia, the right to self-defense was assumed by the Framers."

- John Marshall, U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice.[As quoted in Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. 243, 251 (1846); State v. Dawson, 272 N.C. 535, 159 S.E.2d 1, 9 (1968).]
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/NunnV...

“Afforded us by God & Nature”
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/AffordedGo...

“Agreed to found our Rights upon the Laws of Nature....”
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/LawsofNature...

“...Which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them...”
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/God&Natu...

Life, Liberty and Property
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/LifeLibertyP...

George Washington: Concerning Arms in the hands of the People
http://gunshowonthenet.com/SecondAmend/George...

"the overruling law of self preservation"
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/SelfPreser...

'for the common defence'(?)
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/...

"Rights of the citizen declared to be --"
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/CitizensRi...

"The Right to Self Defense"
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/Right...

"The right of self-defence never ceases. It is among the most sacred, and alike necessary to nations and to individuals."

- President James Monroe, Nov. 16, 1818 message to the U.S. House and Senate.[Journal of the Senate of the United States of America, November 17th, 1818.]
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/Senat...

Right to Keep and Bear Arms - Historical Directories:

Origins
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Origins.ht...

Precedent
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Origins&am...

After The Fact
http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/Conte...

Amendment II and the Law
http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/Contents.htm...

"No, surely, No! they meant to drive us into what they termed rebellion, that they might be furnished with a pretext to disarm and then strip us of the rights and privileges of Englishmen and Citizens."

- George Washington, March 1, 1778 letter to Bryan Fairfax, Valley forge.

What a joke. Guns are almost already banned in Chicago and this idiot is still crying for more gun control. Banning guns on NIU campus caused a mass shooting so this retard decides that the solution is to ban .50 BMG rifles and 'assualt weapons'. Is he really that stupid? Are the people of Chicago really stupid enough to fall for this? They will push for more gun control and the murder rate will go up. Their response will be more gun control. They never learn.

Alex wrote:

What a joke. Guns are almost already banned in Chicago and this idiot is still crying for more gun control. Banning guns on NIU campus caused a mass shooting so this retard decides that the solution is to ban .50 BMG rifles and 'assualt weapons'. Is he really that stupid? Are the people of Chicago really stupid enough to fall for this? They will push for more gun control and the murder rate will go up. Their response will be more gun control. They never learn.

Yes,he IS that stupid. And yes again,the people of Chicago are that STUPID. They keep electing the dumb sumbich......

I think that there should be more gun control in chicago I'm thirteen and I think we better stop this violence soon

no name wrote:

I think that there should be more gun control in chicago I'm thirteen and I think we better stop this violence soon

Must be spring break.....

no name wrote:

I think that there should be more gun control in chicago I'm thirteen and I think we better stop this violence soon

You had better learn the TRUTH about the country that you live in yougster. Our government(s) were EXPRESSLY forbidden from enacting ANY law which contraves the Natural right of the American people to keep and bear arms. Grow up....

"Gun Show" extensive comments clearly shows that he is familiar with the Constitution and the many people that feel that as U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms. Yet, there are no counter arguments for the other side that constantly protests against guns & its control. I guess your not an advocate for tougher gun laws until someone you love is gunned down like the recent killings of 21 CPS students.

Darius Presley wrote:

"Gun Show" extensive comments clearly shows that he is familiar with the Constitution and the many people that feel that as U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms. Yet, there are no counter arguments for the other side that constantly protests against guns & its control. I guess your not an advocate for tougher gun laws until someone you love is gunned down like the recent killings of 21 CPS students.

In all honesty and sincerity please show me.

How Gun control kept the gun out of the criminal’s hand?

Were the criminal registered the gun they plan to use in a crime.

Were the black market abides by this said gun control.

Were the gun control will without a doubt stop gun crime.

Were the gun control only applies to the criminal.

Were this gun control starts and stops.

The equalization of a disarmed storeowner against an armed criminal.

Were the gun committed a crime without a person.

Disarming others has never been done for their benefit. The result is to make people defenseless as a prelude to abusing them further. Was the disarmament of the Jews in 1938 done to protect them? Did it "reduce gun violence in their community" or made it easier to murder?

My father in-law had been robed three times, the last time he had a gun the man jumped him and at the same time, my father in-law pulled his gun. The man ran, no one was shot no one was harmed but my father in-law this time did not have to stay in the hospital overnight from injuries as before.

On one of my late nights at my office, three guys that wanted my money jumped me. I did not want a fight so I handed them what I figured would satisfy them. They decided that since I had very little money that they would put a gun in my face. I pulled my gun and I figure that they did not want to see who is the best with one and they ran. Again, no shots fired.

Is not:
Illegal drugs banned?
Drinking and driving?
Muggings?
Rape?
Bank robberies?
Murder?
Braking and entering a home?
Assault?
Fraud?
Extortion?
Having a knife over 4 inches?

The list could go on.

But since all the above banned illegal activities continue to be perpetrated on society how do we ban something and make it work?

Darius Presley wrote:

"Gun Show" extensive comments clearly shows that he is familiar with the Constitution and the many people that feel that as U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms. Yet, there are no counter arguments for the other side that constantly protests against guns & its control. I guess your not an advocate for tougher gun laws until someone you love is gunned down like the recent killings of 21 CPS students.

Oh, and yes I have had a good friend of mine killed by a gun. This was before Kansas had CCW. He did not have a legal way to defend himself. Had another friend die from a gunshot wound. Don’t preach to me. Self-defense is a personal matter. How we defend ourselves is what is at stake.

So how is my owning a gun going to affect you?

90 percent of all people that I know own a gun.
It is the ignorance of guns that is the problem.
It is the gun in a stupid ignorant person’s hand that is the problem.

It is the people that are scared of guns that are the problem.

The gun is not the problem if you know how to use it safely.
A gun is no more harmful than a knife, club, rake, shovel, bow & arrow or any other idem that you can use to harm someone.
Yes, guns can be used to cause harm BUT no more than a vehicle, and both are tools that you should know how to use. And yet we allow people that can’t drive on the streets.

Come on how can one attribute violence to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute robbery to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute rape to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute home invasion to gun ownership?

Come on how can one attribute kidnapping to gun ownership?

If you do attribute any of the above to gun ownership then without guns, there would be no crime what so ever?

Without doctors, there would be no sickness.

Without cemeteries, there would be no death.

To ban a gun is to open the way for all that would harm us.
Some will go through life and never have to resort to the use of a gun (matter of fact most will not) but if you ever need it, you should be able to use it. Others may need the gun more times, than they would like, but at least with the gun they get the second chance.

Can you show a direct correlation between me owning a gun and crime?

Again how is my owning a gun going to affect you?

In no way, shape, or form am I looking to preach on the matter. I am voicing my thoughts on the senseless crime that has recently plagued Chicago and all other places around the world. Everyday, I think of sending in my Illinois State Police firearm owner's indentification card and protecting myself from the thugs that have shot my brother three times in the back while minding his business. I agree, banning legal ownership of firearms will create feelings of being defenseless.

Darius Presley wrote:

In no way, shape, or form am I looking to preach on the matter. I am voicing my thoughts on the senseless crime that has recently plagued Chicago and all other places around the world. Everyday, I think of sending in my Illinois State Police firearm owner's indentification card and protecting myself from the thugs that have shot my brother three times in the back while minding his business. I agree, banning legal ownership of firearms will create feelings of being defenseless.

I understand and feel for your loss, but no gun law would have prevented the tragedy.

Darius Presley wrote:

In no way, shape, or form am I looking to preach on the matter. I am voicing my thoughts on the senseless crime that has recently plagued Chicago and all other places around the world. Everyday, I think of sending in [to apply for] my Illinois State Police firearm owner's indentification card and protecting myself from the thugs that have shot my brother three times in the back while minding his business. I agree, banning legal ownership of firearms will create feelings of being defenseless.

Unfortunately, even if you got your FOID card, Chicago laws prohibit owning most firearms.

...unless your an alderman - Chicago laws exempt aldermen - allowing them to carry concealed and avoid registering their guns.

Darius Presley wrote:

"Gun Show" extensive comments clearly shows that he is familiar with the Constitution and the many people that feel that as U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms. Yet, there are no counter arguments for the other side that constantly protests against guns & its control. I guess your not an advocate for tougher gun laws until someone you love is gunned down like the recent killings of 21 CPS students.

AND WHY WERE THEY "GUNNED DOWN"? I contend it is BECAUSE of the Constitutionally perverse 'gun control' laws already applied. I've lost a close relative to gun-fire, have you?

Darius Presley wrote:

In no way, shape, or form am I looking to preach on the matter. I am voicing my thoughts on the senseless crime that has recently plagued Chicago and all other places around the world. Everyday, I think of sending in my Illinois State Police firearm owner's indentification card and protecting myself from the thugs that have shot my brother three times in the back while minding his business. I agree, banning legal ownership of firearms will create feelings of being defenseless.

Not to mention being against the Constitution of the United States. As well as "the TRANSCENDENT laws of nature and of Nature's God". The ONLY way to fight evil is by being prepared to CONFRONT it head on....

Darius Presley wrote:

In no way, shape, or form am I looking to preach on the matter. I am voicing my thoughts on the senseless crime that has recently plagued Chicago and all other places around the world. Everyday, I think of sending in my Illinois State Police firearm owner's indentification card and protecting myself from the thugs that have shot my brother three times in the back while minding his business. I agree, banning legal ownership of firearms will create feelings of being defenseless.

It’s no coincidence that Chicago has far stricter gun control than the rest of the U.S. and also has such a high murder rate. Washington D.C. has the same problem. You can't expect gun control laws to have any affect on criminals who don't follow the law. You are only restricting the law abiding who need those guns for defense. Gun control just causes innocent people to be killed. It is the criminals and murderers best friend.

Darius Presley wrote:

"Gun Show" extensive comments clearly shows that he is familiar with the Constitution and the many people that feel that as U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms. Yet, there are no counter arguments for the other side that constantly protests against guns & its control. I guess your not an advocate for tougher gun laws until someone you love is gunned down like the recent killings of 21 CPS students.

I can load a gun, and lay it on a table pointing at me, and in a million years it will NEVER go off. Someone has to consciuously (sp?) pick it up, point it at a target, and make the decision to pull the trigger. Our "Leaders" need to ask what causes a person to become so enraged, so impulsive, that the only solution in their mind is to pick up a firearm and use force that will probably cause the targets death.