New Chicago Blackhawks winger Marian Hossa has shoulder injury

Section 313 wrote:

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Yeah, it does stink that they weren't offering the 21 gamer in anything but the 100s, but I understand. That's the price you pay for success. I'd rather go to 9 games and watch a Cup contender than to go to all of them and watch a stinker! Plus, we got Foley and Eddie O when we can't go. Doesn't get much better!

At the convention one of my friends wanted to buy her partial package. So we went to the booth on Friday night, whoever had the partial plans last year were first in line to get the partials this year. The prices went up to $ 25.00 per ticket in the 300 level and there was only the 9 game plan available. Now there were 3 seperate options for the 9 game plan. I am glad that I got my full season tickets, except we lose 2 games this year cause of Finland trip, and Europe trip. I wonder why they cut back on the partial season ticket plans. They could have had a different package with less games than the 21 game, maybe the savard package that would be popular. I know that you have Foley to listen to but nothing beats being in the UC. Also did anyone see the changes they made to the uc?? Why are the Bulls trying to capitalize on this I have no idea, the Madhouse is cause of the Hawks fans. Check it out.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/madhouse_090715...

Tim - Hockey Rules wrote:

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Also did anyone see the changes they made to the uc?? Why are the Bulls trying to capitalize on this I have no idea, the Madhouse is cause of the Hawks fans. Check it out.
http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/madhouse_090715...

Haha, yeah I saw that they put up that Madhouse on Madison sign. Not sure how I feel about it.

Anybody who'd even consider Havlat less injury-prone than Hossa is an idi0t.

Anyone know how long Johnny McD's contract is, or if he has one? Dont think that he is not replaceable, people. This franchise will do fine without him. Couldnt stand him with the Cub, and now even more. That free gift Winter Classic DVD, should have been titled. "Ode to Me, the marketing genius." Bah.

WrecksAlwaysSux wrote:

Anybody who'd even consider Havlat less injury-prone than Hossa is an idi0t.

It's not that Havlat is more injury prone, it's that he had a worse injury than the one that forced Hossa to miss most of a season 10 years ago.

Hossa recovered from his knee injury just as Havlat now appears to have recovered from his shoulder injury. Havlat played an entire season, missing only one regular season game... to the same flu that knocked most other players out, too.

Sure, Havlat could be injured again, he's a top player, plays HARD and draws lots of hits. But, so could Hossa, and Hossa is already starting out injured.

I would have kept my money on the winning player that brought the Hawks to where they are today, rather than dumping him for a new guy.

Just heard Hossa is to undergo surgery tomorrow (Friday).

I think that Madhouse on Madsion deal on the Bulls Website is actually joke, people. Ever read The Heckler? And do you beleive everything you read on that too?

Section 313 wrote:

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Haha, yeah I saw that they put up that Madhouse on Madison sign. Not sure how I feel about it.

I think the sign is really cool, but for the Bulls to be posting it and not the Hawks is a joke. Everyone knows the Hawks were the Madhouse on Madison period. The Bulls just pump in alot of noise, the Hawks fans make alot of noise.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but sorry Hossa is a huge improvement over Havlat. I have a bet going with a few of my fellow Hawks fans on the over/under of how many games Havlat will play this year. I really think that since Hossa decided to get the surgery it is a good thing. That way when he gets in the line up he will be healthy and that is a good thing. I can't wait for him to play but I can wait. People forget that LaPointe almost beat the crap out of Havlat a few years ago cause he just didn't give 100% all the time. There were plenty of times last season when he was the same way. Last season was the first time in Marty's career that he was healthy for the entire season. He could be a GREAT player, but he gets hurt too often. The Hawks could not gamble on that, and I don't blame them for not resigning him. IF anyone here looks at the papers in MN there is alot of concern there that they got rid of Gaborick who was always hurt, and got themselves another player that is always hurt. Plus no one knows how he will be after he took that huge hit in the Detroit series. Concussions have a way of lingering.

Jack Tupp wrote:

Just heard Hossa is to undergo surgery tomorrow (Friday).

espn confirms
ESPNChicago.com

Chicago Blackhawks winger Marian Hossa will undergo surgery Friday to repair a small tear in the rotator cuff of his right shoulder.

figured this was going to be the case when the rehab story was leaked, they already knew suregery was imminent

Surgery on Friday. Good. Fix the damn thing and lets be done with it!
But now again (IMO) we look foolish. I don't know that the decisions being made are bad. The on ice product is all that matters and I feel the Hawks are prepared to take another step forward this season if they get anything resembling NHL caliber goaltending, but they better get that front office and the manner in which they go public with things sraightened out. I know this is a radical idea, but what if they tried honesty? Yesterday they were going to give rehab a chance and today surgery is scheduled? I guess that rehab session this morning didn't go too well, huh.

Nice, blame Havlat for not giving 100% when he was playing with an injured shoulder-real nice!

Bad Cats wrote:

Nice, blame Havlat for not giving 100% when he was playing with an injured shoulder-real nice!

Dude you need to read what I said, so let me quote what I wrote. "People forget that LaPointe almost beat the crap out of Havlat a few years ago cause he just didn't give 100% all the time." I would love to see you say that to Martin LaPointe. That guy was a very tough player and great leader.

Octo Joe wrote:

figured this was going to be the case when the rehab story was leaked, they already knew suregery was imminent

McD needs to stop and think about every comment made over the last few weeks. Please McD please think before you release any statement. You are looking very bad. I had a feeling that he was going to have surgery.

Tim - Hockey Rules wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but sorry Hossa is a huge improvement over Havlat. I have a bet going with a few of my fellow Hawks fans on the over/under of how many games Havlat will play this year. I really think that since Hossa decided to get the surgery it is a good thing. That way when he gets in the line up he will be healthy and that is a good thing. I can't wait for him to play but I can wait. People forget that LaPointe almost beat the crap out of Havlat a few years ago cause he just didn't give 100% all the time. There were plenty of times last season when he was the same way. Last season was the first time in Marty's career that he was healthy for the entire season. He could be a GREAT player, but he gets hurt too often. The Hawks could not gamble on that, and I don't blame them for not resigning him. IF anyone here looks at the papers in MN there is alot of concern there that they got rid of Gaborick who was always hurt, and got themselves another player that is always hurt. Plus no one knows how he will be after he took that huge hit in the Detroit series. Concussions have a way of lingering.

Their stats don't support your opinion that Hossa is a HUGE improvement over Havlat. Certainly last season, Hossa scored fewer points and had a worse +/- than Havlat. One would have expected it to be his best effort, since was playing for the cup after turning down an $80 million contract in order to move to Detroit. Havlat and Hossa have different styles, and I think Havlat reads the ice better, has softer hands, creates plays better and help his teammates score more. Hossa is extremely talented, too. He plays a more physical game and scores more, but doesn't help his teammates score as much as Havlat. For the Hawks, I think the young team needs a player like Havlat. Remember that Hossa was playing with Detroit, some of the most experienced and talented players in the league, and still Havlat outperformed him.

You've got to be kidding about the LaPoint thing! Havlat skated circles around LaPointe and whether or not the two of them got along has nothing to do with anything being talked about now. Hockey can get intense and a fight means nothing. Beside, Havlat got along great this last season with the other players, most of whom are returning this fall. The guys always talked about how much better they all played when Havlat was on the ice and about how much he helped them off the ice. They were seen around town together all the time. You must have a grudge to bear against Havlat if you're going to drag out something that happened years ago and pretend to know what it was about.

You're also off base in writing that Havlat never been healthy for a full season. Havlat is only 28 and has had many healthy season in the Juniors and Junior Championships, in the Olympics on the Czech team, and in the NHL. When he first hurt his shoulder in Ottawa, he had surgery and within months returned to lead the Senators in points in the playoffs. Many top players get hurt and miss major parts of season, but they come back and do what few others can do. Havlat is no exception and his talent when healthy makes a huge difference for every team he's been on... especially this last season for the Hawks!

Again with the misinformation, this time about the news from Minnesota. The papers and TV news there is all about how stoked the fans and the team are to have Havlat there. I live in Minneapolis much of the year and am now convinced you simply have a grudge about Havlat and are going out of your way to create negative spin about him. Nice try, but it's not working. Also, Minnesota had MRIs done of Havlat's head and shoulder as a condition of the signing... and they signed. Do you really expect us to believe that you know something they don't know about the nature and status of Havlat's blow to the head?

Chris.

Remember though Hossa was playing tic-tac-toe is how Detroit beat us the Hawks. Havet was my favorite also with the Hawks but we can not change yesterday now we have to look forward to the future for our team meaning BLACKHAWKS. My heart is so broken with loosing Khabi and Havlet also but........ I wish I have billions. lol

Tim - Hockey Rules wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but sorry Hossa is a huge improvement over Havlat. I have a bet going with a few of my fellow Hawks fans on the over/under of how many games Havlat will play this year. I really think that since Hossa decided to get the surgery it is a good thing. That way when he gets in the line up he will be healthy and that is a good thing. I can't wait for him to play but I can wait. People forget that LaPointe almost beat the crap out of Havlat a few years ago cause he just didn't give 100% all the time. There were plenty of times last season when he was the same way. Last season was the first time in Marty's career that he was healthy for the entire season. He could be a GREAT player, but he gets hurt too often. The Hawks could not gamble on that, and I don't blame them for not resigning him. IF anyone here looks at the papers in MN there is alot of concern there that they got rid of Gaborick who was always hurt, and got themselves another player that is always hurt. Plus no one knows how he will be after he took that huge hit in the Detroit series. Concussions have a way of lingering.

I agree with you Tim, is the part of playing Hockey players always getting hurts maybe if will be good if Hossa is going to have a surgery now and be prepare for the later games of the season.

GO BLACKHAWKS.

Tim - Hockey Rules wrote:

I read the posts and can't believe most of them. Octo Joe, I can't believe it but a Wings fan has it right. If I was the GM and knew about the issue with Hossa I would still have signed him. Hossa will be playing this year and will still be one of the best players on the Hawks. Many people have the surgery and it is successful so why is everyone saying he is the new Havlat. UGH what a joke, the Hawks are a great organization. They made mistakes with how they handled the Tallon and Savy situations but other than that they have been great.
For the ticket prices, look around the NHL, the Hawks were the cheapest, period. Every other team is more $$ for their tickets. Cost of having a good team is the way I look at it. I am a regular on these boards so when Feb rolls around if Hossa isn't kicking butt then I will eat my words, but I really doubt I will have to. Relax people Hossa is the real deal and he will play this year

Tim, there's surely a good case to be made to signing Hossa with the shoulder injury, but what bothers me is that the Hawks seem to have been blindsided by Hossa's injury.

Combine that with the RFA mess, and it sure seems like the front office is a bit of a Chinese fire drill right now.

Was Tallon the problem? I wonder, because these sorts of problems didn't happen before McD.

BFM wrote:

Surgery on Friday. Good. Fix the damn thing and lets be done with it!
But now again (IMO) we look foolish. I don't know that the decisions being made are bad. The on ice product is all that matters and I feel the Hawks are prepared to take another step forward this season if they get anything resembling NHL caliber goaltending, but they better get that front office and the manner in which they go public with things sraightened out. I know this is a radical idea, but what if they tried honesty? Yesterday they were going to give rehab a chance and today surgery is scheduled? I guess that rehab session this morning didn't go too well, huh.

Well, one can see one good thing coming out of this delayed start to the season for Hossa:

The last two years, he's been to the Finals, which means playing into June. I would have expected him to be worn down a bit by two short summers in a row.

The rehab into December will at least allow him some rest. When he comes back, he should be fresh.

Keep looking for that silver lining.:-)