'Morning-After Pill' Splits States

you should sell morning after pills in bishop and big pine california, because the girls around here need them!!!!!!!!! please sell them here!!!!!

If we taught our daughters self respect, to keep their legs closed, and eliminated the free loving liberal mental state, there would be no need for a "morning-after" pill. Liberalism is a mental disorder and untill treated thus, it will slowly undermine our society leading to the downfall of man.

James Francis wrote:

If we taught our daughters self respect, to keep their legs closed, and eliminated the free loving liberal mental state, there would be no need for a "morning-after" pill. Liberalism is a mental disorder and untill treated thus, it will slowly undermine our society leading to the downfall of man.

Achtung Herr Francis. If we taught our daughters to what? What about the son's wagging about? Since time began and until time ends, frolicking behavior will be with us. The downfall of man began as soon as it started.

"If we taught our daughters self respect, to keep their legs closed, and eliminated the free loving liberal mental state, there would be no need for a "morning-after" pill. Liberalism is a mental disorder and untill treated thus, it will slowly undermine our society leading to the downfall of man."

It's amazing how many conservatives forget about our history. You sir do realize that this country was founded by a group of liberal men trying to free themselves from a conservative government? This however, is beside the point. Women, as well as men, have had pre-marital sex since the beginning of time. You can only force a person to do something, or in this case, not to do something, for a short period of time. Eventually they will rebel. It would be a more wise decision to have pills that prevent un-planned children rather than force someone to "keep there legs closed." Food for thought...

Joseph

Joseph & Tull, while I agree about that we should teach our men to respect also, I feel that the more we give our children an "out" they will inherently learn mothing. We continually strive as a nation to allow our future generations to take no responsability for any actions caused by them. I'm so tired of hearing the liberal cry of "oh well they're uneducated, poor, etc." These are just excuses meant to free a person from personal responsability.

James Francis wrote:

Joseph & Tull, while I agree about that we should teach our men to respect also, I feel that the more we give our children an "out" they will inherently learn mothing. We continually strive as a nation to allow our future generations to take no responsability for any actions caused by them. I'm so tired of hearing the liberal cry of "oh well they're uneducated, poor, etc." These are just excuses meant to free a person from personal responsability.

I am liberal as well as educated. Your statement is a stereo type of liberal people. I agree, children and adults alike should be educated on a more broad level. However, being educated does not change the fact that people educated and uneducated, of all race, religion, political stature, ect, are all guilty of adultery prior to marriage. Thus the reason for these precautions to be in place prior to having more poor families or children who are accidents, addoptions, group home ect children.

After reading all the posts on this thread, I've come to the conclusion that none of the posters are old enough to remember what this country was like before Liberalism took over.
For those that think our founding fathers were so liberal, I suggest reading of The Federalist Papers. By today's standards, the founding fathers were ultra conservatives.
The mere fact that there is an apparent need for a morning after pill is indicitive of how far our society has declined in the past 40 years. We've become a society without morals, direction or conscience and the morning after pill debate is just another indicator of the depths to which we as a nation have sunk.

Do you need a pill if you're going to be with a girl in nylons?
Like if she only slips off her shoes for a someone?

rez girl wrote:

you should sell morning after pills in bishop and big pine california, because the girls around here need them!!!!!!!!! please sell them here!!!!!

Well, do you need to take a pill if a girl were to wear nylons for a while and just slip off her shoe for a guy?

Retired2005 wrote:

After reading all the posts on this thread, I've come to the conclusion that none of the posters are old enough to remember what this country was like before Liberalism took over.
For those that think our founding fathers were so liberal, I suggest reading of The Federalist Papers. By today's standards, the founding fathers were ultra conservatives.
The mere fact that there is an apparent need for a morning after pill is indicitive of how far our society has declined in the past 40 years. We've become a society without morals, direction or conscience and the morning after pill debate is just another indicator of the depths to which we as a nation have sunk.

For their time, they were liberal. For this topic, you mean to tell me you or your friends have never had any type of sexual misconduct according to conservative standards? You sir are too apart of this "sinking nation." You may not like it, it may not be proper enough for you, but it is indeed the reality of today. Birth control of any type has been debated for years before any of us were born. Let me ask you some questions. Would this world be a better place is you took birth control away? Do you honestly believe that by preventing people from using these things they are going to a.) Stop using them and/or b.) Stop having un-protected sex?

You can not change human behavior. Prime example: Every one knows this girl. Growing up I had a good very good friend. Her name was Jennifer. She was a priest's daughter. He prohibited her from being exposed to "bad things" like sex. When she turned 15 hormones raged and she rebelled against her father. She had a child when she was 17. I asked her why she didn't use protection she gave me two answers:
1. It's not allowed in my religion.

Well neither is sex before marriage, but she did it anyway.

2. If my dad found them, he would have killed me.

How do you think he reacted when he found out she was pregnant?

We have all have had "sexual misconduct" at some point in our lives. Birth prevention is needed for various reasons.... I could write all day. Unfortunately I don't have the time to do so.

Retired2005 wrote:

The mere fact that there is an apparent need for a morning after pill is indicitive of how far our society has declined in the past 40 years. We've become a society without morals, direction or conscience and the morning after pill debate is just another indicator of the depths to which we as a nation have sunk.

And for the record, republicans have owned this country for at least the last 20 years.....

I remember the mistakes I made, trust me I made a lot. But never did they include murder! There is no slip sliding around the fact that it is murder. If these boys and girls get themselves into this situation, and don't feel able or aren't willing to parent the child, the Christian thing to do is to have the baby and give it up for adoption. Because they made a mistake doesn’t make murder an acceptable solution. There are many people who want babies.

WWJD

Nicholas
Knights of Columbus

The Boy wrote:

I remember the mistakes I made, trust me I made a lot. But never did they include murder! There is no slip sliding around the fact that it is murder. If these boys and girls get themselves into this situation, and don't feel able or aren't willing to parent the child, the Christian thing to do is to have the baby and give it up for adoption. Because they made a mistake doesn’t make murder an acceptable solution. There are many people who want babies.

WWJD

Nicholas
Knights of Columbus

You have to be kidding me.... The morning after pill a baby killer? Every woman on this earth who has ever menstruated is then by your definition a baby killer. I've killed millions of babies in 5 seconds by your definition. Have you ever masturbated? BABY KILLER!! This isn't even a valid arguing point. Women can have semen injected into them for up to seven days prior to fertilizing a woman's egg. In most cases, taking the morning after pill, the morning after, doesn't even remove an egg that has been fertilized..... Ridiculous....

Joseph wrote:

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Have you ever masturbated? BABY KILLER!!

Now that's a fact I never thought of. Interesting "twist" to the discussion!

Let me just start by saying I am against abortion, as a form of birth control. However, on the flip side I am a 34 year old female with no kids (1 miscarriage) but as an American citizen I am for the morning after pill. If you, your wife, girlfriend, daughter, neice, mother, sister or cousin were raped wouldn't you like them to have an option. Why should they be forced to raise a child they had not planned for or previously considered. Not to mention, had no choice in. Rape is not consentual. Nor is it a matter of teaching girls to keep their legs closed. There's more to consider in the morning after pill than the aformentioned posts.

this is not a liberal, Conservative, repluc or democratic issue.
Do you really think our kids care about that.
this is an issue of our children.
if we all taught morals to our Children, and spoke not to them but WITH THEM, and listened to them, we would no longer ahve a need for this pill, but lets not forget, this pill also helps those who have been raped.
I am not for abortion, and this pill does imply that, but technically it is a type of birth control its just taken after and not before.
instead of sittingon here typeing take this time to talk to your child. My kids are 15 and 14. and know every thing and know how we feel and we know how they feel.
Families these days need full comunication, and morals. and keep polatics out of the conversation regarding these issues.

Wow. I am amazed at how arrogant people can be. Just because your beliefs are your morals say one thing, does not mean you need to enforce your morality onto other people (See The First Amendment).

As far as the "wwjd" comment... have you even read the bible? I don't think he ever tried to pass a law making it illegal to do anything. He left it up to his people to choose after knowing their afterlife consequences.

The government is only here to protect and serve it's people, not judge them on moral standards. That's god's department.

When I am talking about Morals I am not talking about what I believe. I am saying we need to go back to comunicating with our kids. Teach them Premarital sex is not right. etc. etc.
and to the Boy, I am a christian also. the morning after is nothing but a form of birth control. It kills nothing but the sperm traveling to the egg.
and you say send the unwanted born babies, to foster homes to be adopted. have you not seen the news, adopted children are being beat and murdered daily.And then there are the children who grow up in foster homes and group homes who feel worthless, because they don't get adopted,they are not chosen so they believe they are not wirth any love cause they were given away at birth then no one took them in. so you tell me which one is worse by today's world give the child to the state for adoption or protect what could be or should be a loveing soul and take birth control to prevent this distaster.
Aren't there enough unwanted children out there today suffering. How would you like to be called grandpa at the age of 35.
Now honestly if my child asked for the morning after because of and fling( I will not call it a mistake cause she knows what she was getting into) at her age (15). I would be deeply saddned cause I Obvousily was not there for her enough, or did not teach her properly, I would have to take part resposiblity for her actions because I am her mother and she is under age. then I would Do everything in my Power to help her raise the child. But not everyone is capable of doing that. for whatever reasons.
This does not even compare to an abortion, and abortion is the removal a Fetus. the pill is removal of seman.
and as for whatever the comment was on WWJD. with Jesus it would never be an issue, so it would never come into discussion. Jesus would not egange in any activity his father did not approve of so that is what we should teach our children that live by the WWJD Rule.

you've got to be pretty closed minded if you are pinpointing liberalism as the cause of man's downfall.

The mornng after pill is essentially the same as the morning before pill that many women have been taking for decades, only in higher dosages. The problem with this idea is that someone will think they just avoided an unwanted pregnancy, but they were exposed to HIV. Use a condom. I realize accidents happen and that there needs to be a way to deal with the situation, but I don't think creating a generation of women who pop these things on spring break like flintstone vitamins is a good idea.