Lending heft to an anti-bias campaign

John wrote:

Seriously, did did we just not make fun of them enough for them to realize how utterly useless and ugly they are? Did we just torment of them too much?[/quote]

See? It's not unchecked hatred, they're systematically trying to help us by calling us hideous, disgusting blights on society. JUST TRYING TO HELP US!

[QUOTE who="John"]Either way, that's what it is, hatred, psychological torment and societal conditioning.[/quote]

That's all it is.

[QUOTE who="John"]Why should I keep my bigoted thoughts to myself when I have so many stereotypes to go by when it comes to my understanding of fat people unnecessary period.[/quote]

You know, I often wonder why I should keep my mouth shut about things I obviously don't understand. The black eyes and general embarrassment of being ignorant haven't sunk in yet, I guess.

[QUOTE who="John"]YOU should be punished for my stupidity anf utter ignorance, not me! Why should I be held responsible for my motor mouth?[/quote]

Again, I often wonder why I should be held responsible for my actions. IT IZ AN MYSTORY.

[QUOTE who="John"]Hateful closing insult.

Yeah, that'll show those fatties to stay where you and the rest of the normies can't see them!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I won't be able to change John-boy's mind because bigots are tragically unaware of their own hate-filled bigotry, apparently to a level I haven't seen before; to where John has convinced himself that he's not only doing us a service by taunting us mercilessly, but he's also freed himself from any responsibility for the way he treats fat people.

John, despite what you think you know about us, very rarely do we get fat by eating twinkies. I've never had a Twinkie before in my life. My thyroid doesn't work the way it should.

But the reason we should be protected from discrimination isn't because not all of us fit the stereotype. That's a given with anyone. The reason is that we're people, and every day, we're treated less than such, or reminded of how the world hates us. The assumptions people have of us, the way people look at us, the way people taunt us constantly, encourage us to succeed (at weight loss and nothing else) and then kick us and laugh if we fail. People poke at us and prod at us like we're circus freaks, just because of a layer of skin we happen to have more of. Women spend years, decades even, suffering from eating disorders of all kinds as a result of the "help" offered by people like John, tormented by their body's refusal to become thin, or trapped in their delusion of obesity when their body is emaciated. Mothers won't love or accept their children because they're not a size two. Marriages end because the wife had gained weight and the husband couldn't handle it. People have RAPED fat women and others would comment that "it was the only way she'd get laid." This is not "helping us." It's not "poking fun." This is pure insanity, and it all needs to stop.

I support this bill, and I support putting a stop to hatred, bigotry and discrimination thinly veiled as "poking fun."

At least this article calls fat people for what they are, fat. Sure, some people have "real health" issues that cause their obesity, but for the vast majority it is a choice, a choice to keep stuffing food into their faces.

I'm not fat, bordering on skinny, and look forward to the day that all employers give us skinny and healthy people a rebate on our insurance, as laws and rules like those mentioned will certainly make it harder for us to penalize the fat people of the world.

When that day comes, and the checks are coming my way while my fat co-workers pay full price for their insurance, I'll be buying lunch!

There is no genetic reason for anyone to weight 500 pounds. Or even 300. Our ancestors were not obese, our contemporaries oversees are not obese, and we shouldn't be, either. Obesity is about our attitude as a society - lack of exercise, fast food, processed foods, oversized portions, etc. in this country.

There is a huge difference between someone who is 30 pounds overweight and someone who is 100. I am not saying to discriminate against an obese person, but definitely we should not cater to it as if it is an uncontrollable disability. It's not. Stop eating, get yourselves on a treadmill, get your stomach stapled, whatever. But don't act like it's normal to be that fat.

Can you legally discriminate against smokers?

Fred from Santa Barbara wrote:

At least this article calls fat people for what they are, fat. Sure, some people have "real health" issues that cause their obesity, but for the vast majority it is a choice, a choice to keep stuffing food into their faces.
I'm not fat, bordering on skinny, and look forward to the day that all employers give us skinny and healthy people a rebate on our insurance, as laws and rules like those mentioned will certainly make it harder for us to penalize the fat people of the world.
When that day comes, and the checks are coming my way while my fat co-workers pay full price for their insurance, I'll be buying lunch!

"Bordering on skinny?" No kidding.

But seriously, you seem to be stuck on the mindset that size and weight have anything to do with health; that "skinny" and "healthy" are synonymous terms. The truth is that there are just as many unhealthy ways to get and stay thin as there are to get and stay fat. So you could be passing on these hypothetical rebates to people who didn't earn them by BEING healthy, while completely ignoring fat people who do try to live healthily and are just fat. Really, fat doesn't just magically fall off once you start moving. It takes a while. People who exercise and eat right aren't always going to be thin.

So this imaginary rebate of yours, which has been instated by the Mayor of Youtown to give yourself a pat on the back for doing absolutely nothing special, requires only a momentary glance to diagnose and assign these benefits to someone. The thin reap the rewards and the fat, no matter how much work they're trying to put in to being healthy, get nothing.

But momentary glances don't help save lives in the medical world, child.

Health has never had anything to do with your body weight. It's only in the recent century that the definition has shifted. Sure, it's unhealthy to be morbidly obese, but it's just as bad to be emaciated. There are health risks with every other weight group, too, whether or not they're related to the body's weight. The fact is that people can and do weigh up to 300 pounds, and are still leading healthy, fit lives.

Also, I can't get enough of how hilariously parodic this sounds: "as laws and rules like those mentioned will certainly make it harder for us to penalize the fat people of the world."

Except it's not a parody. You heard right, he wants to PENALIZE fat people. For what? Being fat, of course. It's not enough that we're told day in and day out that we need to be thin to be healthy/beautiful/successful, wants to penalize us for our size.

And fat people let him, because he and his pack of starved hyenas have convinced us that we're morally wrong, that we're bad people because we're fat. There is nothing wrong with being fat, any more than there is with being thin. One can be just as healthy or unhealthy as the other. Stop feeling ashamed of yourselves and get angry at people like Frank, John and Sarah. They're not doctors, they cannot diagnose us by anything but plain sight. How do they know how much we work out? How do they know what we eat or don't eat? Wake up, people: they don't.

Let me know when a law that makes sense is going to be passed, anyways stop wasting my tax money please. Last time i heard something this stupid, ok well i haven't heard anything this stupid.

The day is coming, as I knew it would. Soon the only class against whom a bias will be socially acceptable will be normal weight white men. Political correctness will preclude making fun of or discriminating against anyone except that normal white male. Is it a compliment? Are the political correctness junkies saying that normal white men are the measure of all success? Are they saying that since we need legislation to protect women, other races, gay people, transgender people, fat people, and who knows who else, that we are the best or that we are the problem?

I don't believe I am the reason that fat people are repulsive to some employers for one reason or another. I don't think I am the reason that I cannot sit comfortably in a chair or airplane seat which is overfilled by a person who does not respect their body. Legislation making ME the problem would be ridiculous.

On the other hand, I kind of like being part of the only class who has no legislative protections. Like I was groomed for success w/o the liberals holding my hand...

fat people should just slim down. there's no need for such rights. being fat not only makes them less attractive, but also jams up public transport, sweats excessively causing lifts to stink, and walks slowly, obstructing the path of other people. The world is lacking space and these people are striving to take up more space. Insanity.

Nick wrote:

At first I thought yes, perhaps the fat should not have a legal right to protection, then I remembered.. I am a smoker, smokers and the fat have much in-common, both indulge in an unhealthy habit, and both stem from a lack of self control, or simply not wanting to change.

If only it were that simple. I think you're ignoring the fact that nicotine is an extremely addictive chemical substance----which is why cigarette manufacturers add it to cigs, so you'll stay hooked. It's easy to wag our fingers at smokers and feel morally superior to them. What's more challenging is to stop, do a little research and think.

Tim1979 wrote:

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If only it were that simple. I think you're ignoring the fact that nicotine is an extremely addictive chemical substance----which is why cigarette manufacturers add it to cigs, so you'll stay hooked. It's easy to wag our fingers at smokers and feel morally superior to them. What's more challenging is to stop, do a little research and think.

It actually IS that simple. If a smoker makes a CHOICE to stop, they can. Plain and simple. I understand it's an addiction/habit or whatever you want to call it, but it is a choice. Trust me, I'm a smoker and it is a choice that I make.

Just like eating less and moving more is CHOICE.

And isn't it possible that the ridiculously obese are addicted to food, or at the very least, the gross overconsumption of it?

How long before we can look forward to the Illinois Obesity Nazi's joining the Illinois Smoking Nazi's?(and before I get flamed for that, it is hyperbole meant to illustrate a point)

Put the Super Sized fast food down and try eating a healthy diet and do some exercise and you might start getting some respect from society.

NAAFA is the same organization who reminds people so fat that they cannot wipe after defecating that obesity isn't their fault. Anyone who takes them seriously deserves to be ground up into dog food.

NAPO wrote:

NAAFA is the same organization who reminds people so fat that they cannot wipe after defecating that obesity isn't their fault. Anyone who takes them seriously deserves to be ground up into dog food.

They also market this neat little rag on a stick to wash themselves with in bed in between bed-pan changes.

Sure beats the heck out of "Sweating to the Oldies", huh?