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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#84607 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
ALL you need to know about Natural Born Citizen and Justia Gate/Obama FRAUD!
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
In other words "I have no idea what any of this means and I certainly can't think for myself, but here's a link to a website that I often copy and paste from"

typical ... and pathetic
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84609 Jun 12, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
REALLY?
Did you miss the class that explains how the United States Constitution has implicitly incorporated all of Natural Law -- including de Vattel's definition of natural-born citizen and the affirmation that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights including the right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness?
Good point. Wish I had thought of it first. But of course, Rogue may have deduced that black slaves were not created equal with certain inalienable rights including the right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84610 Jun 12, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
How do you think the Supremes will rule on their ObamaCare decision? After all, you claim to be educated in law so that should be really easy for you?
====
Terri Tanna wrote:
"No more easy for me than for you.
"The Court will decide the cases based on The Law as applied to the facts as determined by the lower courts."
====
Ah, you mean they do NOT consider our Constitution?
You obviously never read as far as Art. VI:
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND."
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84611 Jun 12, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words "I have no idea what any of this means and I certainly can't think for myself, but here's a link to a website that I often copy and paste from"
typical ... and pathetic
Uh huh.....and YOU just don't KNOW how to RESEARCH....
....AND/OR "comprehend".....
OR you would be calling him ineligible TOO!.....;-)

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84612 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
ALL you need to know about Natural Born Citizen and Justia Gate/Obama FRAUD!
Actually, all you need to know is the official constitutional determation of Obama's absolute eligibility made with LEGAL FINALITY on Jan. 8, 2009.
Everything else has no legal significance in a nation OF LAWS under the RULE OF LAW. The rest is all bull shtttt.
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YES or NO? Do you dispute in any way the constitutional determination of Jan. 8, 2009?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84613 Jun 12, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. Wish I had thought of it first. But of course, Rogue may have deduced that black slaves were not created equal with certain inalienable rights including the right to life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness.
The 14th Amendment DID that!.....;-)
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84614 Jun 12, 2012
Ya dimwits!
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#84615 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Farmers FIRST, then TRUCKERS....
OR....you would NOT eat
AND/OR DRIVE
....YOU ignorant BITCH!!!!!!!!
My, my. The Incest Mom is upset......so much for her claims of respect.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#84616 Jun 12, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously never read as far as Art. VI:
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND."
Obama statement from his book, "Dreams of My Father."

Quote: "I never 'emulate white' men and 'brown' men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the 'black man', son of 'Africa', that I'd packed all my attributes 'I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin (King), Malcolm (X), DuBois (Pan-African Socialist) and Mandela (African Revolutionary)."

The US Constitution is an impediment to his socialist agenda.
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84617 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Farmers FIRST, then TRUCKERS....
OR....you would NOT eat
AND/OR DRIVE
....YOU ignorant BITCH!!!!!!!!
Farmers FIRST, then Mexican illegals to HARVEST, then TRUCKERS.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84618 Jun 12, 2012
Johannes wrote:
<quoted text>
My, my. The Incest Mom is upset......so much for her claims of respect.
DO I GET "any" FROM YOU?
NADA!
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84619 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh huh.....and YOU just don't KNOW how to RESEARCH....
....AND/OR "comprehend".....
OR you would be calling him ineligible TOO!.....;-)
Here is American er hmm Lady's practical RESEARCH guide relative to the internet, google, wikepedia etc. She/he just types in titles like :

1. Any hate news, literature, on OBAMA
2. Any BC fraud fraught by OBAMA
3. Any proof that Obama was a CIA agent
4. Any proof that Obama was a KGB agent
5. Evidence that Obama is a personal friend of Castro and Chavez
6. Evidence that Obama was a personal friend of Stalin, Hitler and Mao.
7. Evidence that Obama was born anywhere but in the United States
8. Any story from any source that proves Obama fraudulently won the 2008 election
9. Evidence that Obama was an undercover KKK disguising as a community organiser

More later
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84620 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
The 14th Amendment DID that!.....;-)
And the preamble?
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84621 Jun 12, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama statement from his book, "Dreams of My Father."
Quote: "I never 'emulate white' men and 'brown' men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the 'black man', son of 'Africa', that I'd packed all my attributes 'I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin (King), Malcolm (X), DuBois (Pan-African Socialist) and Mandela (African Revolutionary)."
The US Constitution is an impediment to his socialist agenda.
What is wrong with what Obama wrote? And if he had added Ghandi, would that be wrong? Would it mean that he was inferring he was Indian? And who would not want to emulate Mandela and King? Oh, so you think King's a bad hero? You think King was not American? Hmmm, he was black, so...you may have a point.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#84622 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
DO I GET "any" FROM YOU?
NADA!
Well, in your case, the words 'reap what you sow' come to mind.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84623 Jun 12, 2012
NATURAL Born Citizen
Chapter of Never Vetted
by Pamela Barnett
Even if Obama was born in Hawaii with an American citizen mother, Obama is naturally not a Natural Born Citizen, because he was born with his father’s allegiance to another country other than the United States.Obama’s father was a British citizen and was a resident of Kenya when he was born. Natural born requires sole allegiance at birth to the United State sand it requires no written law because it is what comes natural - the child’s citizenship comes from parents and place and there is no question to what country that child belongs to, or to what country would have the child’s allegiance. No other country has claim to a U.S. Natural Born Citizen child.Therefore, because the legal definition of 'natural born Citizen' comes from Nature, it cannot be changed: not by the legislature, and not by the courts. Proof that the founders prescribed to Natural Law exists in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
The Declaration of Independence in the first paragraph states the following –
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
The Constitution Article I, Section 9 cites the Law of Nations which was a book by Emmerich de Vattel and a natural law legal theory that outlined natural law between nations -
“To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the Law of Nations;”
(Law of Nations is Capitalized in the original text of the U.S. Constitution.)
The Law of Nations or the
Principles of Natural Law Applied to the Conduct and to the Affairs of Nations
by Emmerich de Vattel a renowned 18th century law expert, defines Natural Born Citizen .....are those born in the country of citizen parents.
Both the Framers and later English translators of Vattel's treatise used the words "natural born
citizen" instead of "natives or indigenes”....
....
The Natural Born Citizen Clause is the strongest, most reliable way to ensure that the President and Commander in Chief has no allegiances to foreign nations, and that his/her sole allegiance will help ensure the preservation of the Constitution and the United States of America. A president with foreign allegiances would not solely have the United State’s best interest at heart. A man cannot serve two masters without taking from one to give to the other....
The founders, most of them British born subjects, were particularly sensitive to the subject of allegiance as they had fought Britain for their freedom to establish a new nation..... so they opted for the emergence of being born in the United States with both parents being U.S. citizens
........ This is why they had to create the Grandfather Clause in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, because none of the founders were Natural Born Citizens of the United States. This is additional proof that to be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S. you cannot be born with foreign citizenship/allegiances. The first 7 presidents were all born in areas of America that would become the United States..... The President of the United States, the position of highest power in this country, controls the nuclear football and the U.S. military. America’s founders gave us the greatest protection from foreign influence by inserting the Natural Born Citizen Requirement in the Constitution. However, this protection is only effective if it is enforced. There have been five attempts to change the meaning of Natural Born Citizen since 2001.
(This information is available at end of this chapter)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/53024295/NATURAL-Bo...

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#84624 Jun 12, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Slavery, how ever repulsive, was not against the laws at the time. Ergo, slavery was not a crime.
And yes, this fraud is worse than all of the others!!!! You can not put dollar figures on freedom!
What about
The assassination of the Kennedy Brothers
MLK
Watergate
Iran–Contra affair
Operation 40
Wedtech scandal
Inslaw Affair
Plame affair
Lawyergate
Bush White House e-mail controversy
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84625 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
NATURAL Born Citizen
Chapter of Never Vetted
by Pamela Barnett
Even if Obama was born in Hawaii with an American citizen mother, Obama is naturally not a Natural Born Citizen, because he was born with his father’s allegiance to another country other than the United States.Obama’s father was a British citizen and was a resident of Kenya when he was born. Natural born requires sole allegiance at birth to the United State sand it requires no written law because it is what comes natural - the child’s citizenship comes from parents and place and there is no question to what country that child belongs to, or to what country would have the child’s allegiance. No other country has claim to a U.S. Natural Born Citizen child.Therefore, because the legal definition of 'natural born Citizen' comes from Nature, it cannot be changed: not by the legislature, and not by the courts. Proof that the founders prescribed to Natural Law exists in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
The Declaration of Independence in the first paragraph states the following –
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
The Constitution Article I, Section 9 cites the Law of Nations which was a book by Emmerich de Vattel and a natural law legal theory that outlined natural law between nations -
“To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the Law of Nations;”
(Law of Nations is Capitalized in the original text of the U.S. Constitution.)
The Law of Nations or the
Principles of Natural Law Applied to the Conduct and to the Affairs of Nations
by Emmerich de Vattel a renowned 18th century law expert, defines Natural Born Citizen .....are those born in the country of citizen parents.
Both the Framers and later English translators of Vattel's treatise used the words "natural born
citizen" instead of "natives or indigenes”....
....
The Natural Born Citizen Clause is the strongest, most reliable way to ensure that the President and Commander in Chief has no allegiances to foreign nations, and that his/her sole allegiance will help ensure the preservation of the Constitution and the United States of America. A president with foreign allegiances would not solely have the United State’s best interest at heart. A man cannot serve two masters without taking from one to give to the other....
The founders, most of them British born subjects, were particularly sensitive to the subject of allegiance as they had fought Britain for their freedom to establish a new nation..... so they opted for the emergence of being born in the United States with both parents being U.S. citizens
........ This is why they had to create the Grandfather Clause in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, because none of the founders were Natural Born Citizens of the United States. This is additional proof that to be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S. you cannot be born with foreign citizenship/allegiances. The first 7 presidents were all born in areas of America that would become the United States..... The President of the United States, the position of highest power in this country, controls the nuclear football and the U.S. military. America’s founders gave us the greatest protection from foreign influence by inserting the Natural Born at end of this chapter)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/53024295/NATURAL-Bo...
What drivel. Do you think anyone in his/her right mind would read the above?

Apart from toilet/gutter language, when do you intend producing anything of your own?
Jacques Ottawa

Thornhill, Canada

#84626 Jun 12, 2012
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
What about
The assassination of the Kennedy Brothers
MLK
Watergate
Iran–Contra affair
Operation 40
Wedtech scandal
Inslaw Affair
Plame affair
Lawyergate
Bush White House e-mail controversy
All of the above, and add 9/11, they are nothnig compared to criminal Obama.

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#84627 Jun 12, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Uh huh.....[SIC] and YOU just don't KNOW how to RESEARCH....
....[SIC] AND/OR "comprehend".....[SI C}
OR you would be calling him ineligible TOO!.....[SIC];-)
Or how to punctuate at the third grade level.
====
What is your preferred source for legal research? Corpus Juris Secundum or perhaps a Decennial Digest or Fed. Supp. or Lexis-Nexis or a specific internet site?

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