BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Do you remember when the Democrats investigated G.H.W. Bush for flying to Paris France in a SR-71 to meet with the Iranians even though there was not one shred of evidence? There is significantly more evidence questioning Obama's documents that Bush's SR-71 ride to Paris.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/02/us/panel-re...
Yep, but a lot of Libtards still believe he did!!!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SomeUnknownUSHi...
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Oh no air-breath aircraft can fly above 100,000 feet!!! Also, an SR-71 can exceed 3,200 mph for only a few seconds before things start to fail. At 5,000 mph, it would be a fireball!!!
Also, the SR-71 gets its best fuel mileage at 80,000 feet. If it flew less than that it would not have made it across the Atlantic without refueling.
Also, the crew has to suit up at least an hour before take off to purge their system of nitrogen. If they fail to do so, and there is a sudden decompression, they would get the bends the same as a scuba diver who ascends to fast would get. Have you ever noticed that astronauts do the same thing and for the very same reason.
You assume because the panel rejected the theory that it didn’t actually in fact happen and in the same breath you think simply because you question Obama’s documents it’s somehow “evidence” your delusion has legs. Then you have the nerve to say “Libtards” still believe this as if the birfoon won’t believe his Obama fable until his dying day.

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Here is a web page saying that it did happen.
http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/usa3.ht...

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Must still be Learning to Read, huh?
What did Arpaio find probable cause to believe?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse...
Arpaio said his Cold Case Posse found probable cause to believe that Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent and that it was a forgery.
GFY, IDIOT!
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The sad ignorant birfoon sets himself up for every conceivable disappointment. As if it wasn’t enough for him to allow himself to believe his own delusion, he somehow thinks the courts should be complaisant in his folly.

He believes the courts should circumvent the law and introduce as acceptable evidence his dreams, premeditated lies and internet gossip. I suppose only the birfoon knows why he somehow thinks the online image of the BC posted by the White House should contain a visible raised seal as it certainly serves absolutely no purpose. TT has already conceded the image is in fact fraudulent.(Not a real BC)

Now we have sheriff birfoon telling his ignorant disciples what TT has been telling them for months.

ARPAIO SAID HE WAS NOT ACCUSING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF A CRIME, but said the long-form birth certificate released (I’m sure he meant to say posted) by the White House (as he has not seen the true certified documents) is a "computer generated fake."

No shit Sherlock, of course it is. And as the "computer generated fake” shows no evidence of deception, is not a crime; thus the president is not being accused nor could he be accused of committing one.

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<quoted text>Barack Obama is an arrogant narcissist,he is also delusional and anti-American. His anti-freedom and anti-free market rhetoric are very bad for our country and our future prospects for prosperity. He thinks that spending other peoples money is good leadership and that spending other peoples money for his re-election campaign will negate his incredibly poor record.
The Nobel committee didn’t hear your fantasy Obama speak Frank, they heard the real one.

"We have not given the prize for what may happen in the future. We are awarding Obama for what he has done in the past year. And we are hoping this may contribute a little bit for what he is trying to do," noting that he hoped the award would assist Obama's foreign policy efforts. Jagland said the committee was influenced by a speech Obama gave about Islam in Cairo in June 2009, the president's efforts to prevent nuclear proliferation and climate change, and Obama's support for using established international bodies such as the United Nations to pursue foreign policy goals.

The New York Times reported that Jagland shrugged off the question of whether "the committee feared being labeled naïve for accepting a young politician’s promises at face value", stating that "no one could deny that 'the international climate' had suddenly improved, and that Mr. Obama was the main reason...'We want to embrace the message that he stands for.'

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The requirement of providing the proof is on the person applying or accepting the position, WoTARD!
If you do not give the employer what they need to confirm what you say is the truth, you don't get the job!
When it is a requirement, you must prove that you qualify, others do not have to prove that you don't, because only you can get the proof that you qualify.
You are dumber than a stump, WoTARD!
After you get your GED, check out O.C.G.A. 21-2-5(a).

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Sorry birfoon boy, the burden was on the plaintiffs. They failed - miserably. The defendant did not need to present any evidence at all.
O.C.G.A. 21-2-5(a) Every candidate for federal and state office who is certified by the state executive committee of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.

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Have you noticed that Mass. has lost another Congressional district while Florida got two new ones and Texas got four new ones? Why do you think that happened?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_co...
Because the populations of Libtard states are becoming stagnant while conservative states are growing.
Wow! FL and TX picked up districts because of Romney Care!

Get real.
wojar wrote:
Destroyed Massachusetts? That's not what people in MA say.

“The state’s healthcare reform has no serious opposition. Individuals and businesses, by a large margin, agree that the program may not be perfect, but it has been successful as measured by the people, including many middle income families, who would not be able to afford health insurance otherwise.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01 ...

Kenneth Rapoza, The Success Of "RomneyCare" In Massachusetts, Forbes, Jan. 20, 2012.
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The fact that the Twin Revolution of 1776 is a continuing process of evolution was highlighted in a 1787 address to the American people by Dr. Benjamin Rush, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence (quoting the first and the last paragraphs; emphasis his):

"There is nothing more common, than to confound the terms of American Revolution with those of the late American war. The American war is over: but this is far from being the case with the American revolution. On the contrary, nothing but the first act of the great drama is closed. It remains yet to establish and perfect our new forms of government; and to prepare the principles, morals, and manners of our citizens, for these forms of government, after they are established and brought to perfection ... Patriots of 1774, 1775, 1776---heroes of 1778, 1779, 1780! come forward! your country demands your services!--Philosophers and friends to mankind, come forward! your country demands your studies and speculations! Lovers of peace and order, who declined taking part in the late war, come forward! your country forgives your timidity and demands your influence and advice! Hear her proclaiming, in sighs and groans, in her governments, in her finances, in her trade, in her manufactures, in her morals, and in her manners,'THE REVOLUTION IS NOT OVER '"

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIde...

An Important Distinction: Democracy versus Republic

It is important to keep in mind the difference between a Democracy and a Republic, as dissimilar forms of government. Understanding the difference is essential to comprehension of the fundamentals involved. It should be noted, in passing, that use of the word Democracy as meaning merely the popular type of government--that is, featuring genuinely free elections by the people periodically--is not helpful in discussing, as here, the difference between alternative and dissimilar forms of a popular government: a Democracy versus a Republic. This double meaning of Democracy--a popular-type government in general, as well as a specific form of popular government--needs to be made clear in any discussion, or writing, regarding this subject, for the sake of sound understanding.

A Democracy

The chief characteristic and distinguishing feature of a Democracy is: Rule by Omnipotent Majority. In a Democracy, The Individual, and any group of Individuals composing any Minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of The Majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man.

This is true whether it be a Direct Democracy, or a Representative Democracy. In the direct type, applicable only to a small number of people as in the little city-states of ancient Greece, or in a New England town-meeting, all of the electorate assemble to debate and decide all government questions, and all decisions are reached by a majority vote (of at least half-plus-one). Decisions of The Majority in a New England town-meeting are, of course, subject to the Constitutions of the State and of the United States which protect The Individual’s rights; so, in this case, The Majority is not omnipotent and such a town-meeting is, therefore, not an example of a true Direct Democracy.

"All the powers of government, legislative, executive, judiciary, result to the legislative body. The concentrating these in the same hands is precisely the definition of despotic government. It will be no alleviation that these powers will be exercised by a plurality of hands, and not by a single one. 173 despots would surely be as oppressive as one. Let those who doubt it turn their eyes on the republic of Venice."

This topic--the danger to the people’s liberties due to the turbulence of democracies and omnipotent, legislative majority--is discussed in The Federalist, for example in numbers 10 and 48 by Madison (in the latter noting Jefferson’s above-quoted comments).

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Well, I distrust one persons OPINION on any subject and it does not matter which side he takes. I also distrust NON-scientific polls but I could not find one that met my requirements.
But I did find several polls that may or may not be scientifically accurate. So, without claiming it is correct, I throw this poll out for the individuals to decide if it make sense.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/06/05/23...
Anyway, it is at least just as reliable as Rapoza's one-person opinion!
You "throw out" one poll (out of several) showing the majority are still behind the mandate and think RomneyCare "destroyed" the state of MA and has not been successful?

Really?
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Destroyed Massachusetts? That's not what people in MA say.
"The state’s healthcare reform has no serious opposition. Individuals and businesses, by a large margin, agree that the program may not be perfect, but it has been successful as measured by the people, including many middle income families, who would not be able to afford health insurance otherwise."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01 ...
Kenneth Rapoza, The Success Of "RomneyCare" In Massachusetts, Forbes, Jan. 20, 2012.
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Here is a web page saying that it did happen.
http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/usa3.ht...
BAC 111? Do you know what that is/was? I know he claims it was "reconfigured" for long range but why would they do that when they had other longer range aircraft at their disposal?
From Wiki: The British Aircraft Corporation One-Eleven, also known as the BAC-111, BAC-1-11 or BAC 1-11, was a British short-range jet airliner of the 1960s and 1970s. Conceived by Hunting Aircraft, it was developed and produced by the British Aircraft Corporation when Hunting merged into BAC along with other British aircraft makers in 1960.
It is very close to the DC-9 over all and is a "short range" airliner. That alone puts my antenna up and it detects "bull shit"!
I am probably the closest person on this site that knows aviation. I flew the Atlantic for the first time at age seven in 1958 on a TWA Super Connie. I had my first helicopter ride at age six in 1957.
In 1963 I was climbing all over the YOH-4, YOH-5 and YOH-6 (Google them). My father flew everything from the L-5 to the OV-1 and from the OH-13D to the CH-47. And I have more flight time than he had!
In fact one of my favorite photos of my dad he was getting out of an OH-13D/E which had the ambulance kit (MASH).
And I have know many old timer aviators like Krenshaw who flew Pan Am clipper to China in the late 1930s, to Fred Vernon who was at Eva MCAS on Oahu and transferred to Midway just weeks before the Pearl Harbor attack. He flew Brewster Buffaloes during the Battle of Midway. Took off twice, short down twice!!! And ended by flying Corsairs with Pappy Boyington. I knew Sherman Rose who was one of the very first Tuskegee Airmen. And LTG Henry W.O. Kinnard who turned the 11th Abn Div into the 1st Cav. Div. in 1962 )Mel Gibson's We Were Soldiers)
It is not that a BAC 111 could not fly across the Atlantic with aux tanks, but why would they when other aircraft were available?
Besides, Congress investigated this idiots claim and debunked his claim!!!
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E-Mail of Joe's press conference sent out by WND......

"President Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House on April 27, 2011, is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery, not a scan of an original 1961 paper document as represented by the White House when the long-form birth certificate was made public," Arizona's Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said at a press conference today in Phoenix.

This is the major preliminary finding of a six-month ongoing Sheriff's Cold Case Posse law enforcement investigation into the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to be president.

Having developed probable cause to believe the long-form birth certificate was most likely a computer-generated forgery, investigators began examining other evidence of President Obama's life history.

Investigators additionally have developed credible evidence suggesting:

• President Obama's Selective Service card was most likely a forgery, revealed by an examination of the postal date stamp on the document;

• Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of President Obama's birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961.

Beginning in October 2011, the Sheriff's Cold Case Posse, consisting of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience, examined dozens of witnesses and hundreds of documents, as well as taking numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

In August 2011, 250 members of the Surprise, Arizona, Tea Party, residents of Maricopa County, presented a signed petition asking Sheriff Arpaio to undertake the investigation.

The Tea Party members petitioned under the premise that if a forged birth certificate was utilized to obtain a position for Barack Obama on the 2012 Arizona presidential ballot, their rights as Maricopa County voters could be compromised.

The Cold Case investigators further determined that the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in what Sheriff's investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from public inspection whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in their possession.

"Officers of the Hawaii Department of Health and various elected Hawaiian public officials may have intentionally obscured 1961 birth records and procedures, to avoid having to release to public inspection and to the examination of court-authorized forensic examiners any original Obama 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may or may not have," said Mike Zullo, the lead investigator in Sheriff Arpaio's Cold Case Posse.

The Cold Case investigators have not yet determined who, when, or precisely how the long-form computer-generated birth certificate released on April 27 may have been forged, but investigators say the evidence contained in the computer-generated PDF file released by the White House as well as important deficiencies in the Hawaii process of certifying the long-form birth certificate establish probable cause that a forgery has been committed.

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You "throw out" one poll (out of several) showing the majority are still behind the mandate and think RomneyCare "destroyed" the state of MA and has not been successful?
Really?
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Oh, I could have shown you several polls but none met my standards but all showed that about 2/3rds did not like RomneyCare. But I do not agree that Mass. has been destroyed. It is better than Michigan but is only of the troubled states. Again, why did Florida pickup two Congressional seat and Mass. lost one seat?
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The Cold Case Posse investigators advised Sheriff Arpaio that the forgers most likely committed two crimes: first, in fraudulently creating a forgery that the White House characterized, knowingly or unknowingly, as an officially produced governmental birth record; and second, in fraudulently presenting to the residents of Maricopa County and to the American public at large a forgery the White House represented as "proof positive" of President Obama's authentic 1961 Hawaii long-form birth certificate.
"A continuing investigation is needed to identify the identity of the person or persons involved in creating the alleged birth certificate forgery, and to determine who, if anyone, in the White House or the state of Hawaii may have authorized the forgery," Arpaio said.
Among the evidence released at the press conference were five videos the Cold Case Posse produced to demonstrate why the Obama long-form birth certificate is suspected to be a computer-generated forgery.
The videos consisted of step-by-step computer demonstrations using a control document.
The videos were designed to display the testing used by the investigators to examine various claims made by supporters of the April 27 document.
The videos illustrate point-by-point the investigators' conclusion that the features and anomalies observed on the Obama long-form birth certificate were inconsistent with features produced when a paper document is scanned, even if the scan of the paper document had been enhanced by Optical Character Recognition (OCR) and optimized.
Additionally, the videos demonstrated that the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar's name stamp and the Registrar's date stamp were computer-generated images imported into an electronic document, as opposed to actual rubber stamp imprints inked by hand or machine onto a paper document.
"That we were able to cast reasonable suspicions on the authenticity of the Registrar stamps was especially disturbing, since these stamp imprints are designed to provide government authentication to the document itself," Zullo said, stressing that if the Registrar stamps are forgeries, the document itself is likely a forgery.
The investigators also chronicled a series of inconsistent and misleading representations that various Hawaii government officials have made over the past five years regarding what, if any, original birth records are held by the Hawaii Department of Health.
"As I said at the beginning of the investigation," Arpaio said, "the president can put all this to rest quite easily. All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession."
Arpaio further stressed the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm, and electronic records, in order to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.
Arpaio went on to say the President should also authorize Kapiolani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any and all hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, in order to provide additional corroboration for the original 1961 birth records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.
"Absent the authentic Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other credible proof supporting the idea or belief that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as he and the White House have consistently asserted," Zullo said.

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"In fact, absent the authentication of Hawaii Department of Health 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, there is no other proof he was born anywhere within the United States."
Arpaio concluded the press conference by suggesting a congressional investigation might be warranted and asked that any other law enforcement agency with information referencing this investigation be forwarded to his office.
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You probably know ....
MORE spam, lies and video tape
courtesy of a pathetic mindless birfoon ..

please let us know if you ever have a single thought that you can claim as your own
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Must still be Learning to Read, huh?
What did Arpaio find probable cause to believe?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse...
Arpaio said his Cold Case Posse found probable cause to believe that Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent and that it was a forgery.
GFY, IDIOT!
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wow - Wing Nut Daily Siad that Big Joe Said that the Fake Posse said ...

THAT still is not what Big Joe's Fake Posse said - but thanks for proving (AGAIN) how ignorant people from KY are
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio Obama Eligibility Investigation Results

The Western Center For Journalism joined with World Net Daily (WND) and the Article II Super PAC to live stream the Maricopa County “Cold Case Posse” Investigative Report of President Barack Obama initiated following a request from Tea Party members from Surprise, Arizona.
The Video will be live below. The press conference is over. The full video is now posted at the bottom of this post. Additionally, the videos that accompanied the press conference are also embedded. Please share this link with your friends.
The PDF report released to the media is available here:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/pdf-obama-el...

The short videos screened in the press conference can be found below:
Video 1 On Obama Birth Certificate Regular Scan:

Video 2 On Obama Long Form Birth Certificate:

Video 3 On Obama Birth Certificate And OCR Software:

Video 4 On Obama Birth Certificate And Optimization:

Sherriff Joe Arpaio Cold Case Posse Conclusion Video On Obama Birth Certificate:

Sherriff Joe Arpaio Cold Case Posse Video On Obama Selective Service Fraud:

Full video of conference:

Subscribe to be sent the final report of Joe’s investigation, which will be released after the press conference.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sheriff-joe-...

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Why don't you go?
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Two "stand alone" sentences!
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Breathtaking stupidity.

They are not independent sentences.

Just breathtaking. She's too demented to understand that she's demented.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You wrote the following. Please explain how rule 13 applies.
Why don't you go, and, suck on a rotten egg!
Two stand-alone sentences? Look, American er hmmm Lady, stick to cut-and-paste and don't argue grammar with ANYone.
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4 Republican Justices Control Fate Of Health Law

Here's a thought that can't comfort President Barack Obama: The fate of his health care overhaul rests with four Republican-appointed Supreme Court justices.

His most sweeping domestic achievement could be struck down if they stand together with Justice Clarence Thomas, another GOP appointee who is the likeliest vote against.

But the good news for Obama is that he probably needs only one of the four to side with him to win approval of the law's crucial centerpiece, the requirement that almost everyone in this country has insurance or pays a penalty.
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php...

Listed below are live links to the orders, case filings, and other information pertaining to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act cases. Click on each item to access further information.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/PPAACA.asp...

As copied......
nO. 11-117
iN THE sUPREME ¢OURT OF THE UNITED sTATES
tHomas more lafi ¢enter, et al., Petitioners
V.
bara¢K H. obama,
President oF tHe United states, et al.
on Petition For a firit oF ¢ertiorari
to tHe United states ¢oUrt oF aPPeals
For tHe sifltH ¢ir¢Uit

http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/PDFs/11-11...
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Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act Cases

March 26-28, 2012

Listed below are live links to the orders, case filings, and other information pertaining to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act cases. Click on each item to access further information.

Orders

11-14-11 Grant Order
11-18-11 Amici Appointment Order
12-08-11 Briefing Schedule
02-21-12 Allocation of Oral Argument Time


Case Filings

11-117 Thomas More Law Center, et al., v. Barack H. Obama, President of the United States, et al.
Petition for Writ of Certiorari
Brief in Opposition
Reply Brief

11-393 National Federation of Independent Business, et al.,, v. Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, et al.,
Petition for Writ of Certiorari
Appendix to Petition
Brief in Opposition
The American Bar Association has provided a link to the briefs at the merits stage of this case at this link.*

11-398 Department of Health and Human Services, et al., v. Florida, et al.
Petition for a Writ of Certiorari
Appendix to Petition
Brief of Private Respondents
Brief of State Respondents
Reply Brief
The American Bar Association has provided a link to the briefs at the merits stage of this case at this link* for the anti-injunction act and this link* for the minimum coverage provision.

11-400 Florida, et al., v. Department of Health and Human Services, et al.
Petition for Writ of Certiorari
Brief in Opposition
Reply Brief
The American Bar Association has provided a link to the briefs at the merits stage of this case at this link.*

11-420 Virginia, ex rel. Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II, Attorney General of Virginia v. Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services
Petition for Writ of Certiorari
Brief in Opposition

11-438 Liberty University, et al., v. Timothy F. Geithner , Secretary of the Treasury, et al.,
Petition for a Writ of Certiorari
Brief in Opposition
Reply Brief

http://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/PPAACA.asp...

BUT you don't HEAR about this on "lamestream media"

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It’s conceivable that President Obama has succumbed to sincere belief in the magical, transformative power of his own oratory and that he honestly assumes that his proclamations of ‘peace in our time’ will become self-fulfilling prophecies.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09...
You prefer war? Haven't you had enough? You want more Vietnams, Afghanistans, Iraqs? Pray tell, what have they solved and at what human and financial costs?

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