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Immigration issue fizzles again

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O ne of the rituals of going after that elusive big-game target, the "Middle-America White Male Voter," is the hunting trip.

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ANDY

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Well said. We need comphrehensive bill. We are talking about human lives and their future. We need our borders secure but we need to fix our broken immigration system. If someone has lived here over 10 years, paid taxes and proven to be a good citizen, they shoud be granted legalization. Thats the kind of immigrants we need to build for future. Just crying out loud need to fix our immigration system won't work, until something is done soon. The kids who already have been here since their childhood, should be given some kind of status so they can pursue their American dream. Thats what America stands for "FREEDOM". We have changed our views so much just to please these politicians, who really cares for nothing just for themselves and their hypocrysy. Wake up Americans, be what our country stands for.
Joe C

Chicago, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
I have no faith in any candidate running for office. I have absolutly no faith that anything will change for the better. the fact remains is this. Bunch of people are cheering for Ron Paul. Out of all the Policies Ron Pauls are the best. But reality is, is that He will not get elected. It will be whoever wins for the Dems. This is fact.

our taxes will go up.
immigration will get worse.
more american jobs will be outsourced.
education will get worse
and our debt will rise.

I hope im wrong
Glasnos

Port Orange, FL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
No amnesty! Close the border ... whatever it takes ... and then make our SS#s instantly verifyable, just like Visa and Mastercard.
We already give illegals reduced tuition rates we don't give to legal citizens ... If we give them amnesty and citizenship we not only leap them in front of foreigners seeking to come here legally, we leap them to the front of hiring and promotion lines in front of legal citizens due to "affirmitive action"! How great is that? Sneak into the country and go to the front of the hiring and promotion line?
Joe C

Chicago, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Glasnos wrote:
No amnesty! Close the border ... whatever it takes ... and then make our SS#s instantly verifyable, just like Visa and Mastercard.
We already give illegals reduced tuition rates we don't give to legal citizens ... If we give them amnesty and citizenship we not only leap them in front of foreigners seeking to come here legally, we leap them to the front of hiring and promotion lines in front of legal citizens due to "affirmitive action"! How great is that? Sneak into the country and go to the front of the hiring and promotion line?
welcome to america my friend.

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Willowbrook, IL.

ISP: Hinsdale, IL

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#5
Jan 5, 2008
 
We legalized the illegals that came here in the eighties. What did we get? Millions more illegals. Amnesty is not the answer. Deport the criminals. Make it if your parents came here illegally you are not automaticly a citizen. Look at the rules to immigrate into mexico. Make the incomming aliens face the same rules that we face if we try to immigrate to mexico
La Migra

Chicago, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Con dinero baila el perro.

Who has lost their roles as leaders of Human Dignity and Human Rights: Americans. Illegals are human beings, Illegals built this country! We work harder than most Americans. We deserve the same respect and rights as any one else. We demand equality.

Al que madruga, Dios lo ayuda.

God is on our side. Man created the concept of borders. God did not give Moses tablets with a map to divide. Do you see? The flaw is with man and his rules who oppose God's Truth. Those who oppose God are doomed to failure. We are the future of this country, we are growing and will be the majority soon. So, it is better to be on our side now or have your children suffer the consequences of your promotion of hate.

No soy monedita de oro pa' caerles bien a todos

God knows we will succeed. We were on this continent first, and will be here when you have left. Let La Reconquista begin. La esperanza y la verdad!
WOW

Missouri City, TX

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Do you know where your roots come from La Migra? I think that if the government find an illegal then they should have the right to confiscate all the possissions and send them back to the country they came from.
Wyoming

Bakersfield, CA

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Jan 5, 2008
 
This is a newspaper?
What about Wyoming
So Far
Romney 3
Hunter 1
That's delegates and Wyoming has more delegates than Iowa
Glasnos

Port Orange, FL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Hey La La,
The last I looked, Israel and the Jews were God's chosen people .... try jumping that line!

Your whole precept is insane. With no borders who is to set laws? What's next? We don't need no stinkin laws?
chicago voter

Bellwood, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
La Migra wrote:
Con dinero baila el perro.
Who has lost their roles as leaders of Human Dignity and Human Rights: Americans. Illegals are human beings, Illegals built this country! We work harder than most Americans. We deserve the same respect and rights as any one else. We demand equality.
Al que madruga, Dios lo ayuda.
God is on our side. Man created the concept of borders. God did not give Moses tablets with a map to divide. Do you see? The flaw is with man and his rules who oppose God's Truth. Those who oppose God are doomed to failure. We are the future of this country, we are growing and will be the majority soon. So, it is better to be on our side now or have your children suffer the consequences of your promotion of hate.
No soy monedita de oro pa' caerles bien a todos
God knows we will succeed. We were on this continent first, and will be here when you have left. Let La Reconquista begin. La esperanza y la verdad!
I'll be happy when ICE gets up with you poncho....hey it's a free bus trip home !
Marge

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Deport all of the aliens and their illegal alien anchor babies. "Human Dignity and Human Rights" also belong to American citizens. Aliens can have rights and dignity in their own country. Criminals do not deserve respect. Stealing, cheating and lying is wrong. Take your liberal bs back with you to Tiajuana.
mlimberg

Canton, GA

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Voters are concerned about our broken illegal immigration system.

Joshua, you need to learn the difference.
Thats right baby

Woodridge, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
The anti-immigrant crowd is loud and mean, but even with the help of an opportunist hypocrite like Romney buying 12,000 anti-immigrant commercials, they still come up as what they really are: losers!
And how about McCain, supposedly roadkill because of the immigration issue, surging back!
This loud minority of bigots needs to get out of the way and let the real patriots -- Americans who want solutions -- move forward with earned legalization, border security, and solutions that work.
Again it is clear, the anti-immigrants are toothless tigers!
dtowncondoowner

Chicago, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
There will never be another Amnesty Bill as those who voted for it in June will be removed from office. The AMERICAN CITIZEN has said no to Amnesty and rewarding ILLEGAL aliens with citizenship.

There is no need for any new laws. ENFORCE OUR CURRENT LAWS!

Attrition through enforcement is working. Just ask the ILLEGAL aliens who are fleeing from Georgia and Arizona.
Larry

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Jan 5, 2008
 
ANDY wrote:
Well said. We need comphrehensive bill. We are talking about human lives and their future. We need our borders secure but we need to fix our broken immigration system. If someone has lived here over 10 years, paid taxes and proven to be a good citizen, they shoud be granted legalization. Thats the kind of immigrants we need to build for future. Just crying out loud need to fix our immigration system won't work, until something is done soon. The kids who already have been here since their childhood, should be given some kind of status so they can pursue their American dream. Thats what America stands for "FREEDOM". We have changed our views so much just to please these politicians, who really cares for nothing just for themselves and their hypocrysy. Wake up Americans, be what our country stands for.
So you think the millions of people around the world who follow the rules and wait LEGALLY for years to live in the U.S. are SUCKERS!
"comprehensive" is a code word for ANOTHER amnesty!
Congress has passed 7 amnesties for illegal aliens, starting in 1986.
1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens
2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens
3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994
4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America
5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti
6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens
7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens
8. Nine current bills are vying to be Amnesty No. 8
http://www.numbersusa.com
Tomorrow We Vote

Woodridge, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
The Republican Party is going to pay a horrible price for getting in bed with anti-Mexican racists like the Minutemen.

Our community is young, and the one thing no one forgets in politics is who attacks your family.

You will pay in the '08 presidential campaign in Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Florida, and maybe Texas.

And then you will pay for the next 30 years for driving my community into the arms of the Democrats.
dtowncondoowner

Chicago, IL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
ANDY wrote:
Well said. We need comphrehensive bill.


That is the last thing we need. As demonstrated by the miserable failure of past Amnesties, such as in 1986, when you reward CRIMINALS with American Citizenship, you invite MORE CRIMINALS!
ANDY wrote:
We are talking about human lives and their future.
Yes, AMERICAN CITIZENS are losing jobs, seeing their wages depressed, paying excessive taxes, seeing health care costs soar, seeing the quality of their children's education plummet, are being killed, raped, and murdered at the hands of ILLEGAL aliens at the tune of 12 AMERICAN CITIZENS PER DAY to name just a few.
ANDY wrote:
We need our borders secure but we need to fix our broken immigration system.
We do need to secure our borders and ports. But our immigration system is not broken. The laws are there. What is broken is our Government's refusal to enforce our laws. That is why individual states and cities are stepping forward to do the job our Government refuses to do.
ANDY wrote:
If someone has lived here over 10 years, paid taxes and proven to be a good citizen, they shoud be granted legalization. Thats the kind of immigrants we need to build for future.


An ILLEGAL alien who has invaded and infiltrated this country for over ten years is still a CRIMINAL. A CRIMINAL who has been breaking our laws for a very long time. They should receive no special treatment over an ILLEGAL alien who has invaded and infiltrated this country for 5 minutes.

The kind of immigrant we need is just that, an immigrant, NOT an ILLEGAL alien. Contrary to what the fool who wrote this article says, an immigrant and an ILLEGAL alien are not the same thing and are not interchangeable terms.
ANDY wrote:
Just crying out loud need to fix our immigration system won't work, until something is done soon.


Agreed. That's why states are stepping forward like Az. and Ga. requiring all businesses to check the legal status of their employees. By stopping the criminals who are hiring ILLEGAL aliens from doing so, we can end this invasion.
ANDY wrote:
The kids who already have been here since their childhood, should be given some kind of status so they can pursue their American dream.


No they should not. We don't allow the children of bank robbers to keep and spend the money their parents stole, do we?

Allowing ILLEGAL aliens to bring their ILLEGAL aliens children here is wrong and invites more ILLEGAL aliens to bring their ILLEGAL alien children.
ANDY wrote:
Thats what America stands for "FREEDOM".


For AMERICAN CITIZENS that is.
ANDY wrote:
We have changed our views so much just to please these politicians, who really cares for nothing just for themselves and their hypocrysy. Wake up Americans, be what our country stands for.
It's the politicians who have sold out the AMERICAN CITIZEN to the highest bidder. It's the politicians who no longer represent the AMERICAN CITIZEN. They now represent big business and their "need" for cheap labor.

This country is founded on the principles of law. No matter how you slice it, it is ILLEGAL to hire ILLEGAL aliens. It is ILLEGAL for an ILLEGAL alien to even be here. It is ILLEGAL for an ILLEGAL alien to work. It is ILLEGAL for an ILLEGAL alien to use a fraudulent or stolen ss#. I could go on for hours....
dtowncondoowner

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Jan 5, 2008
 
La Migra wrote:
So, it is better to be on our side now or have your children suffer the consequences of your promotion of hate.
Just curious... What are those consequences? Please answer in English, because that is the only language I speak.
Ali Adam

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#19
Jan 5, 2008
 
Great piece, a fun read, and very informative, also, it's so true what Mr. Hoyt is saying, I am glad someone has the guts to say it. There is hope.
Glasnos

Port Orange, FL

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Jan 5, 2008
 
Hey Tomorrow,
Dream on muchacho. All we need is one Republican candidate who can express the american people's sentiment of no amnesty and close the border, and he will win in a landslide! Both democrat and republican have tried to push amnesty bill after amnesty bill, and the american voters said NO ... loud and clear!
So sneak into those poles ... and vote democrat ... as we all know you will ... and stop your sniveling act about ever considering a republican ... You want entitlements ... and don't want to wait or earn them ... so the democrats are your pals.
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