Kosovo: far better after NATO intervention

Swansong wrote:

how do you like them apples
Dritan, and you voluntarily live in Serbia. How do you like them apples?****

Exactly. Many Albanians live in Serbia and continue to spread lies against Serbia. I wonder how come Nazis haven't knocked on their door and taken them away.

Albanians living in Serbia don't need NATO escorts to schools, shops etc. but Serbs living in Kosovo do.
There is a whole lot of discrepencies here which Albanians conveniently overlook.

It should be obvious to most by now that the Albanians have nothing worthwhile to offer in these posts except to resort to name calling and baseless and senseless diatribes. It's more than obvious that the truth is not on their side.

As Peggy says in the above post, the Albanians don't need armed protection in Serb-controlled Serbia. On the other hand, since 1999 the Christian Serbs and other minorities in Kosovo are without basic human rights or freedom of movement. See:
http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/christians-u...

And, Europe is fully aware that the Albania-Kosovo alliance is now a very real problem. Those two are the major supplier of organized crime, including the narcotics and sex slave trades, throughout Europe. Nothing to be proud of by those who continue to deny the truth.

folks, peggy is a typical serb propagandist..

step 1: lie, lie, lie, and lie some more to deflect any and all possible responsiblity...

step 2: despite all the lies, it is impossible to get anyone.. no matter how dull of mind they may be.. to beleive it all. so the best you can do is to 'equalize' the situation... ignore the cause, turn victims into the aggresors, after all..if everyone is evil, then again, the agressor can deflect responsiblity.

Alan wrote:

folks, peggy is a typical serb propagandist..
step 1: lie, lie, lie, and lie some more to deflect any and all possible responsiblity...
step 2: despite all the lies, it is impossible to get anyone.. no matter how dull of mind they may be.. to beleive it all. so the best you can do is to 'equalize' the situation... ignore the cause, turn victims into the aggresors, after all..if everyone is evil, then again, the agressor can deflect responsiblity.

Alan, have you any evidence to back up your claim?

I provided links to sources and real reporting. What are you providing apart from calling me a liar?

Your desperation is showing. Lies unravelling and you can't stop it.
Please in future dispute what I say with evidence and reason instead of emotion.

Kosovo IS worse off now than it was during Milosevic. Of course, im referring to the period prior to the KLAs ruthless terror campaign aimed at ALL non albanians as well as albanians who were not like minded. The fact is that Albanians have been pursuing independence for many many years well before Milosevic was president. Just as the US would invoke military law in southern Texas if they were to attempt to secede, Serbia did that on its OWN territory. But unfortunately, as often done in the past, the USA has decided to side with a terrorist organization(KLA) which eventually it will be fighting against just as(taliban, osama, sadaam) etc etc etc.

Ruben from NYC wrote:

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Dear Peggy did you checked all these "compromised evidence" from Australia?
Have you ever been to Kosovo yourself?
How about the 800 bodies in three mass graves found in Belgrade's suburbs by the Serbs themselves after the fall of Milosevic regime?
800 bodies transported from Kosovo in a poor effort to hide the truth. Of course not enough time to take the rest of them 10,000 other civilians killed and dumped in mass graves in Kosovo.
The 800 bodies were returned to Kosovo later, with thousand of families waiting in the border to identify their loved once.
The families of 2,000 more people had to go back empty-handed. It is only too early to find where in Serbia their bodies are hidden.
You, Peggy, should be ashamed of yourself.

Ruben, according to Clinton, shouldnt there have been 100,000 albanian bodies? Whoops, another fib told by the USA to start a senseless war. The fact is that the total number killed on ALL sided in the kosovo conflict prior to nato intervention was 2500 and that was during a one year war! I think more people are murdered in DC every year! As for mass graves, war is ugly. Lets talk about the Albanians killing Serbs for their organs and selling them on the black market. Why not bring that up? Lets talk about the 4 years prior to 99 in which Albanian terrorists(KLA) launched repeated attacks against civilians, police and government agencies. Are you condoning terrorism now? America went 6K miles to Iraq to combat terrorism and they have killed more than 1000% innocent people then the total death toll of Serbia's crackdown on Kosovo. Yet, i dont hear you complaining about that! Furthermore, Serbia was protecting ITS OWN SOVEREIGN territory. They didnt lauch pre-emptive strikes 6K miles away! They fought within their own country against terrorism from the KLA. Is it only proper to fight terrorism that is against the USA? Serbias response in Kosovo was mild compared to America's response it Iraq! BTW, research your numbers my friend. Almost ten years after the Kosovo war, only 2500 bodies from ALL SIDES have been found.... NOT TEN THOUSAND!

Alan, here's something else for you to chew on:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php ...

Re my above message, here is the complete link about Kosovo:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php...

Liza and Dan, there is no use providing any more evidence here because these Albanians know exactly what they did and how much they lied. They know how much money they spent lobbying the senators and what they needed to do in order to secure US backing.

They will NEVER admit that and will continue to sidestep issues and avoid dealing with evidence we produce. They can't afford to deal with evidence. They have to lie, throw mud at anyone who attempts to bring some reality here and accuse anyone speaking on behalf of Serbs as being paid propagandists. They of course give themselves permission to write whatever they want without anyone having the right to dispute that. They offer no facts but plenty of anger, hate and emotion.

I can't imagine anyone apart from Bosnian Muslims, Croatians and Albanians backing them. What do these three have in common? They were all on Hitler's side in WW2. They say that nobody likes Serbs. Wrong. More than two thirds of the world refused to recognize their imaginary state of "Kosova". That tells me that most of the world is indeed on Serbia's side.

When you examine closely what they say you can see that there is no substance there whatsoever. Only their version of events and lots of hatred. Pity for them, most of the world doesn't share that hatred towards the Serbs.

I have read article by Mary Ellen O'Connell's very carefully. And she gives rather good analysis with some good observations. Popular folklore is that Mr.Clinton was "good" and all the trouble started with Mr.Bush. Yet behind his "charm" Mr.Clinton was quite a warmonger...So I would not agree with opinion that analysis given is simplistic.
I would rather say so about comment from Mr.John W. Tkacik, who tends to exaggerate , which is a common flaw of people from Western Balkans (as it is called nowadays) regardless to which ethnicity they belong.
It is common misconception to argue that Mr.Milosevic was bad - and others were good. While in truth among those others many were equally bad.

Marco

You should "burn in shame" for yuor misinformation.

As for the cheap shot comment someone else made about Serbianna, it's much better than sites like Greater Surbiton and the Srebrenica Genocide Blog.

Pardon misspell.

I sink down a bit upon answering the intellectually inferior comments of anti-Serb extremists.

Righteous non-Serb wrote:

Marco
You should "burn in shame" for yuor misinformation.
As for the cheap shot comment someone else made about Serbianna, it's much better than sites like Greater Surbiton and the Srebrenica Genocide Blog.

I do not expect the serbs to burn because they do not know the meaning of the word "shame".
I did not provide any information. There is no need to.There was plenty of it reported live from the all media around the globe.

I do not expect the serbs to burn because they do not know the meaning of the word "shame".
I did not provide any information. There is no need to.There was plenty of it reported live from the all media around the globe.

Marco very well said.

Cheers

Kosovo is for sure FAR FAR BETTER after NATO just ask the Kosovar people not Serbian prapaganda and brainwashed people like Peggy who has nothing else to do all day but spred Serbian prapaganda all over the internet which is anyway not working for her because we all know the truth.

PS: Peggy u forgot to call the Kosovar people terrorists I thought I might just remind you for that maybe just maybe it would make your propaganda more belivable.

Cheers

Mendo, I am not braiwashed. You are trying your very best to brainwash as many people as you can but without facts your emotional outbursts are nothing.
Please provide proof that I have nothing else to do all day but spread propaganda. What I say is not propaganda but facts as I provide evidence of that.
Anyway, what are you doing posting on this site?
You obviously give yourself permission to comment on whatever you want but when soemone disputes that, you don't like it and try to dismiss them as brainwashed people.
Glad you mentioned terrorists, because John Pilger has said exactly that in one of his articles. I suggest you take this argument up with him.
Do tell us why you think you have the right to write anything you like but get angry at others who don't agree with you.

Alex wrote:

Peggy if we wanted to read only serbian propaganda I would go directly to serbiana.com ...but I'll stick with cnn,bbc and the rest of western media...Serbia started the 4 wars no way around that one and no diplomacy in earth would have done any good...So yes NATO's success story is Kosovo/a and its free people.

NATO's success story? hahahaha
what cnn and bbc say? hahaha were u alive back in 99?

cnn and bbc were saying more than 120,000 killed (when really only about 9,000 albanians killed)

ethnic clensing(9,000 people killed isn't classed as ethnic clensing)

serbian crackdown on seperatists,(when you're a militant and have to walk people to schools, hospitals and shops and get fired at by albanian civilians and so called liberation army then you're meant to keep walking and get shot at and not fire anything back)

the mass of refugee's leaving kosovo (only after nato bombing driving everyone out, they also failed to mention a large number of albanians fleeing to other parts of serbia for refuge, so if the albanians were so scared of serbs why would they go deeper into serbia?

they also didn't mention some albianians were driven out of kosovo because they liked being part of serbia and didn't agree with the KLA's extremist agenda

the cnn and bbc gave NATO a scapegoat to bomb a country with illegal weapons like nuclear half life bombs and cluster bombs...

there was basically no reason for a other countries to get involved... there's much worse things happening in africa and no one goes there to try and sort things out even though people are dying in the millions

and let me guess, people like u believe the united states is helping iraq and afganistan?
OOooOOo dictatorship of their polititians have claimed the lives of close to 10,000 people so as an american citizen we must interviene and kill to date over 1 million in iraq and close to a million in afganistan so this doesn't happen again to the poor 10,000 people who have lost their lives before america came along

the big countries are making great progress to global peace and stability according to western media hahahaha

wake up people and smell the shit that media broadcast

what about the concentration camp style photos they took in bosnia?
hahaha there's a car in the background!! hahaha gee's these people aren't free at all, they're behind a barb wired fence that has the barb wire on the inside that they can dismantle themselves plus automobiles that could drive through the fence at any time and escape... the media doesn't lie at all! hahaha

good luck to the no-brainers who are brainwashed by everything they see in photos and and footage... a picture can tell a 1000 stories

David dont try and change the numbers here not 9000 but 13000 thausand got killed and nearly 1 million Kosovars were expelt to the neighbouring contries what do you call that ethnic holiday or ethnic clensing? I would say ETHNIC CLENSING.

And when you sey ''really only about 9000 thousand got killed'' ONLY ABOUT.. helloooooooo we are talking about humans here not animals OK, even just 1 life is to much.

It is apsolutely not tru that people from Kosovo fled after NATO bombing thats just another Serbian propaganda how do you know that, when u were in Australia ask the Kosovar people not Radio Television Serbia.

CNN and BBC are the best democratic media in the world, we all know that.

Guys keep on going with your propaganda but its just not working...

KOSOVO INDEPENDENT 4EVER

Cheers

David wrote:

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NATO's success story? hahahaha
what cnn and bbc say?...a picture can tell a 1000 stories

you left out some interesting facts,like;serbia attacked slovenia,croatia,bosnia,kosova ...didn't nazi germany do the same?